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So Nadal is now second in the all time grand slam list. Some people say Nadal's slams are too clay focused, but I don't understand he has won on other surfaces. Also clay is a grand slam, probably the hardest one to win of them all. Sampras did not get to a final of the French Open.
I think after the 15 grand slams with 10 in a single event, his greatest achievement in my mind was beating Roger Federer at Wimbledon in 2008. Federer in my opinion is the greatest grass court player of all time, he beat Sampras when Sampras was champion - yet Nadal who was regarded as a clay court specialist at the time, somehow managed to beat prime Federer on grass. Federer was playing amazing in Wimbledon 2008, did not lose a set till the final.
But I respect some feel Sampras to rank higher than Nadal so let's investigate this hypothetical match between them.
Prime Nadal vs Prime Sampras over two matches. One at Wimbledon Centre Court with the old fast grass and one at Roland Garros - Phillipe Chatrier. Who would win the most games over both matches?
My Answer:
Old Grass
If I take Nadal from 2008 Wimbledon - the form that beat Federer at his best. On fast grass I think Nadal would have a lot of opportunities to pass from return of serve and general play. Because when Federer played Sampras whilst Sampras was champion and hit passing shots all afternoon. Nadal and Federer, although different styles are very good returners.
Nadal is probably the greatest of all time at passing shots. And in his return game he senses when an opponent comes forward and hits amazing return passes, he does this so often it is a part of his game. Let us also remember that todays best servers hit much much harder serves than Sampras (speed measurements prove this), so if Nadal can handle harder and faster serves, he should be able to with Sampras Serve.
In general player, Nadal would attack the Sampras backhand all afternoon and this will open up a lot of opportunities for him as Sampras would struggle with the high backhand. Even at a good height, Sampras backhands were not really potent and often landed short. I don't see how if Federer couldn't beat Nadal on grass in 2008, how would Sampras? But I would say the game finishes in 5 sets, and in the 5th Sampras steps up the first and second serve, gets a load of aces and beats Nadal.
Clay
This is a particularly bad matchup for Sampras at Roland Garros against Nadal at his absolute best. Sampras real weapon, his serve, is nullified by the slower surface - there are a lot less aces on clay than other surfaces. Sampras never made it to a final in the French, never really had an effective clay court game and I don't see how he could hurt Nadal even remotely.
Take Wawrinka for example, he is in my book a great clay court player. What he done against Djokovic the year he won it was amazing. The form Nadal was in on Sunday, Wawrinka's forehand and backhand are far more powerful than Sampras yet he couldn't even dent Nadal. I just don't see where the games for Sampras would come from against Nadal, especially when Nadal attacks the Sampras backhand.
Federer is a far far greater clay court player than Sampras, yet during his prime in 2008 he lost 6-1 6-3 6-0 to Nadal in the French Open. So considering Sampras has never been to the final, has a weak clay court game, I would say Nadal wins 6-0 6-0 6-1.
So over the two games, Nadal wins more games. Your thoughts?
I think after the 15 grand slams with 10 in a single event, his greatest achievement in my mind was beating Roger Federer at Wimbledon in 2008. Federer in my opinion is the greatest grass court player of all time, he beat Sampras when Sampras was champion - yet Nadal who was regarded as a clay court specialist at the time, somehow managed to beat prime Federer on grass. Federer was playing amazing in Wimbledon 2008, did not lose a set till the final.
But I respect some feel Sampras to rank higher than Nadal so let's investigate this hypothetical match between them.
Prime Nadal vs Prime Sampras over two matches. One at Wimbledon Centre Court with the old fast grass and one at Roland Garros - Phillipe Chatrier. Who would win the most games over both matches?
My Answer:
Old Grass
If I take Nadal from 2008 Wimbledon - the form that beat Federer at his best. On fast grass I think Nadal would have a lot of opportunities to pass from return of serve and general play. Because when Federer played Sampras whilst Sampras was champion and hit passing shots all afternoon. Nadal and Federer, although different styles are very good returners.
Nadal is probably the greatest of all time at passing shots. And in his return game he senses when an opponent comes forward and hits amazing return passes, he does this so often it is a part of his game. Let us also remember that todays best servers hit much much harder serves than Sampras (speed measurements prove this), so if Nadal can handle harder and faster serves, he should be able to with Sampras Serve.
In general player, Nadal would attack the Sampras backhand all afternoon and this will open up a lot of opportunities for him as Sampras would struggle with the high backhand. Even at a good height, Sampras backhands were not really potent and often landed short. I don't see how if Federer couldn't beat Nadal on grass in 2008, how would Sampras? But I would say the game finishes in 5 sets, and in the 5th Sampras steps up the first and second serve, gets a load of aces and beats Nadal.
Clay
This is a particularly bad matchup for Sampras at Roland Garros against Nadal at his absolute best. Sampras real weapon, his serve, is nullified by the slower surface - there are a lot less aces on clay than other surfaces. Sampras never made it to a final in the French, never really had an effective clay court game and I don't see how he could hurt Nadal even remotely.
Take Wawrinka for example, he is in my book a great clay court player. What he done against Djokovic the year he won it was amazing. The form Nadal was in on Sunday, Wawrinka's forehand and backhand are far more powerful than Sampras yet he couldn't even dent Nadal. I just don't see where the games for Sampras would come from against Nadal, especially when Nadal attacks the Sampras backhand.
Federer is a far far greater clay court player than Sampras, yet during his prime in 2008 he lost 6-1 6-3 6-0 to Nadal in the French Open. So considering Sampras has never been to the final, has a weak clay court game, I would say Nadal wins 6-0 6-0 6-1.
So over the two games, Nadal wins more games. Your thoughts?