an scandal, undoubtedly
#ToastedFakingBull
I don't think OP considered games won percentage, which have to be considered before H2H in case of a 3-way tie.
Which proves once again that it is a joke. Zverev got destroyed today (just like last year by the way) and he is still a big favorite to reach the semifinals. On the other hand Nadal lost one match and nothing depends on him anymore.
The only match Nadal has won so far is against the #4 in the groups in 3 sets. He's also won 0 sets against the #1 in the groups.
Hasn’t the ATP finals had a round robin format ‘literally’ since they started back in 1970?
Djokovic's results in WTF 2011:
Could you explain the difference between using round robin system in a team sport and using it in an individual sport?
I doubt Medvedev is even going to try. He will probably tank it.
What is it about an individual sport that makes it unsuitable for RR play, as opposed to a team sport?
Considering the 1970 tournament was played by Rod Laver, Ken Rosewall, Stan Smith, Arthur Ashe AND MORE I’d say they did care.
Zverev getting destroyed today is balanced by him destroying Nadal in 1st match. Nadal barely squeezed through in the match he didn't get destroyed in, that's the difference.
Nothing really precludes team sports from being a knockout (as some of them are), or individual sports from being based around a round robin (as some of them are).
This is the info. Don’t debate it.
A moral victory would be Djokovic classifying with 2 victories and Nadal getting eliminated with 2 victories. Same merits, different benefits. Which prove the rules of this tournament are completely unfair.
Djokovic in 2011 was extremely close to reaching the semifinal with 1 victory. (and his victory was a very close match while in one of his losses he was totally destroyed). Good that Berdych beat Ferrer and didn't let it happen.
Will it be the first match on Friday? Because if not then he might already be out of the tournament.
Again, untrue because there are team competitions that are either partially or entirely knockout-based (all American Big Four sports, FIFA World Cup, UEFA Champions League, have knockout stages)
Most chess tournaments are based on a round-robin system. The most important Badminton competition (the Olympics) has a round robin prior to the knockout system. PSA Tour Finals (Squash) has a round robin preceding the knockout.
I wanna see him in the stands laffing his ass offCan you guys image if Kyrgios was at the WTF and the power was in his hands to save RAFA?
Biggest tank performance in the history of sport.
Alright. So if Zverev wins I hope Nadal just pulls out and never plays this tournament again. I would do that for sure.
Nadal plays the first match
jm1980 said:
kyrgios qualifying for wtf. legit lolCan you guys image if Kyrgios was at the WTF and the power was in his hands to save RAFA?
Biggest tank performance in the history of sport.
And the Mad Lad needs Tsitsipas to beat Nadal to make it.Tsitsipas is 2-0 in the ATP finals, with a perfect 4-0 in sets. Even if he loses to Nadal tomorrow, he would still be 4-2 in sets and would classify to the semifinals.
If Zverev defeats Medvedev tomorrow in 2, he would be 4-2 in sets and would classify to the semifinals, as Nadal can only be 4-3 in sets.
If Zverev defeats Medvedev in 3, he would be 4-3 in sets and would classify to the semifinals because he leads the H2H over Rafa in the tournament.
Short explanation: regardless of Rafa's result with Tsitsipas, Zverev will reach the semifinals if he defeats Medvedev.
SEMI-FINAL QUALIFYING PROCEDURE
a) Greatest number of wins;
b) Greatest number of matches played;
Comment: 2-1 won-loss record beats a 2-0 won-loss record; a 1-2 record beats a 1-0 record.
c) Head-to-head results if only two (2) players are tied,
Comment 4: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, 1 player’s sets won-loss is 5-2 for 71.43%; the other 2 players both have a 4-3 record in sets for 57.14%. In this case there is 1 superior player (71.43%) and the remaining 2 players are tied; it now reverts to the head to head result of the 2 remaining players with the winning player advancing as group runner-up.
Event | Nitto ATP Finals | Tennis
Event information about the Points & Prize Money, Rules & Regulations at the Nitto ATP Finals, the ATP Tour's season finale, held at the Pala Alpitour in Turin.www.nittoatpfinals.com
