Who will win the ATP Finals?

UnderratedSlam · Nov 10, 2020

Gorecki said:
yeah... i was just making a joke. to be honest, this WTF looks to me a toss up for NoVAxx, Jeringuillas, Mughiem, MugveDev and MugveRev

Well, I assumed you weren't... Some people are overrating Rublev currently, actually believing he is slam champ material.

He is the next Ferrer.

Your toss-up includes over half the field. That's a mighty geometrically-challenged coin...

blablavla · Nov 10, 2020

Jonesy said:
Never heard of such record.

what's the current max amount of RG titles won by 1 tennis player?
and what would someone need to top it?

tennis_pro · Nov 10, 2020

I know who definitely won't lmao

clout · Nov 10, 2020

It should be Djokovic but I wouldn't say he's unbeatable.

Med imo is the second favorite if he can play like he did at Bercy.

Nadal has a shot too, he's always played better tennis here than in Bercy (Zverev and Djokovic are his worst match-ups in these conditions).

I don't have much faith in Thiem this time around idk why maybe I'll be wrong

Start da Game · Nov 10, 2020

anybody can win it despite playing an entire match blindfolded and lose 0-6, 0-6........

DSH · Nov 10, 2020

What is Nadal's percentage of winning this tournament?
10, 15%, isn't it?

James P · Nov 10, 2020

DSH said:
What is Nadal's percentage of winning this tournament?
10, 15%, isn't it?

18W, 14L

CYGS · Nov 10, 2020

Djokovic ties Federer here

Nadal_King · Nov 10, 2020

Groupings are massive in this which will give an idea of what we can expect

demrle · Nov 10, 2020

Start da Game said:
anybody can win it despite playing an entire match blindfolded and lose 0-6, 0-6........

What's that match Vajda's talking about in your signature?

Third Serve · Nov 10, 2020

CYGS said:
Djokovic ties Federer here

Well, now I’m convinced that he won’t win.

blablavla · Nov 10, 2020

CYGS said:
Djokovic ties Federer here

Where?
At imaginary DCGS?

skaj · Nov 10, 2020

No "someone else" option in the poll?

PeoplesChamp · Nov 10, 2020

aldeayeah said:
Are you somehow related to Goran Ivanisevic, by any chance?

You got the joke.

Well done.

DSH · Nov 10, 2020

James P said:
18W, 14L

I know perfectly his record of wins and losses in his history in the ATP Finals.
I was referring to the percentage that you or anyone would give Nadal to win the 2020 edition of this tournament.
According to my calculations, he would have a 10 to 15% chance of succeeding.
Do you agree or think differently about this?

King No1e · Nov 10, 2020

JaoSousa · Nov 10, 2020

Phoenix1983 said:
Medvedev shall emerge victorious.

So be it.

So let it be written...

So let it be done.

TheNachoMan · Nov 10, 2020

Hopefully Djokovic but probably Zverev or Medvedev

Definitely not Schwartzman or Nadal

r2473 · Nov 10, 2020

blablavla said:
a pro tennis player with a tennis racket?

That's very unfair to Federer

TennisFan3 · Nov 10, 2020

I put this in the other thread:

Here are sample percentages chances of winning:

Djokovic (65%)
Thiem (15%)
Zverev/Tsitsipas (10%)
Nadal/Medevev (7%)
Rublev/Schwartzmann (3%)

bhpower · Nov 10, 2020

TennisFan3 said:
I put this in the other thread:

Here are sample percentages chances of winning:

Djokovic (65%)
Thiem (15%)
Zverev/Tsitsipas (10%)
Nadal/Medevev (7%)
Rublev/Schwartzmann (3%)

Medvedev and Zverev have a higher chance than Thiem.

titoelcolombiano · Nov 10, 2020

Voted along party lines

Beckerserve · Nov 10, 2020

weakera said:
Well? Who will win?

Medvedev. Guy is a streaky player so after Paris expect him to look unbeatable in London and be the main Next Gen hopeful..then fail in Australia.

Beckerserve · Nov 10, 2020

aldeayeah said:
Are you somehow related to Goran Ivanisevic, by any chance?

What he is saying is Nadal will win Big. In fact Nadal has already won i think he is saying if you count the points and games won per player when event starts with live new balls and dont count the points and games with the dead balls.

Beckerserve · Nov 10, 2020

Bumbaliceps said:
I feel like Djoko wants to prove he is still the boss of tour. And that he will do it.

Wont help him even if he wins recover from FO and USO. He literally invested everything on winning both events. That said if he can win it keeps an aura about him. If he loses though that aura will diminish so it is a big event for him

Nadalgaenger · Nov 10, 2020

I’d say any of these guys except Schwarzmann or Rublev could win this.

Jonesy · Nov 10, 2020

CYGS said:
Djokovic ties Federer here

It is done.

BGod · Nov 10, 2020

It's pretty interesting how RR goes. As I'm seeing it Nadal gets Thiem, Rublev and Zverev. I am picking Thiem to win it all because I see him beating Nadal and Rublev then getting an easier SF. I have a feeling Novak dumps this tournament again. Medvedev or Tsitsipas look good on the other half. Ultimately if Nadal wins he'll deserve it.

DSH · Nov 10, 2020

tennis_pro said:
I know who definitely won't lmao

tennis_pro · Nov 10, 2020

DSH said:

and his master

blablavla · Nov 10, 2020

r2473 said:
That's very unfair to Federer

how?

blablavla · Nov 10, 2020

Jonesy said:
It is done.

like the DCGS?

I Am Finnish · Nov 11, 2020

Bold prediction: Thiem

game..set..match · Nov 11, 2020

fairly confident it won't be nadal.

Jonesy · Nov 11, 2020

blablavla said:
like the DCGS?

Soon. My body is ready.

GabeT · Nov 11, 2020

blablavla said:
a pro tennis player with a tennis racket?

So not me, huh?

TennisFan3 · Nov 11, 2020

I Am Finnish said:
Bold prediction: Thiem

There is NOTHING bold in that. Thiem is the 2nd likeliest player after Novak.

Nadalgaenger · Nov 11, 2020

DSH said:

Who is that?

Nadalgaenger · Nov 11, 2020

I Am Finnish said:
Bold prediction: Thiem

Wouldn’t be that bold. Narrowly lost last year in final and can obviously play with big boys on HC.
My money would be on Medvedev probably though...

Third Serve · Nov 11, 2020

Nadalgaenger said:
Who is that?

The man who haunts tennis_pro's nightmares.

6august · Nov 11, 2020

My bold prediction: The defending champion.

Nadalgaenger · Nov 11, 2020

Lol that Schwartzman has higher votes than either of last year’s finalists

DSH · Nov 11, 2020

Nadalgaenger said:
Lol that Schwartzman has higher votes than either of last year’s finalists

Sudaca has bought votes!

socallefty · Nov 12, 2020

Considering that this is the one tournament that the Big 3 have just rolled over at in the last few years to younger players and one of them is missing, this is a wide-open tournament. I would not be surprised if any of the players wins the title except for Schwartzman who is the only one without a chance in my opinion.

I am already thinking about the AO and don’t particularly care who wins this.

mike danny · Nov 12, 2020

Nadalgaenger said:
Wouldn’t be that bold. Narrowly lost last year in final and can obviously play with big boys on HC.
My money would be on Medvedev probably though...

Thiem has been in bad form since winning the USO.

aldeayeah · Nov 12, 2020

DSH said:
What is Nadal's percentage of winning this tournament?
10, 15%, isn't it?

I'd rank it something like this:

Djokovic 35%
Med 20%
Z 20%
Rafa 8%
Domi 8%
Tsitsi 8%
Rubles 1%
Diego 0%

Betting places have this (https://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/atp-world-tour-finals/winner):

Djokovic: between 13/8 (38.1%) and 5/4 (44.4%)
Nadal: between 5 (16.7%) and 10/3 (23.1%)
Med: between 6 (14.3%) and 5 (16.7%)
Domi: betwen 8 (11.1%) and 13/2 (13.3%)
Zed: between 8 (11.1%) and 7 (12.5%)
Rubles: between 11 (8.35%) and 10 (9.1%)
Tsitsi: between 12 (7.7%) and 10 (9.1%)
Diego: between 33 (2.9%) and 25 (3.8%)

I think Rafa is a tad overrated in the betting sites, but maybe I'm the one underrating him?
Rubles is grossly overrated IMO, he's beaten pretty much nobody of consequence or won anything big.

which is kinda sad because I'm rooting for those two

3loudboys · Nov 12, 2020

Any similarities between the performance in Italy followed by the FO? Rafa criticised in the warm up for the big one.

aldeayeah · Nov 12, 2020

3loudboys said:
Any similarities between the performance in Italy followed by the FO? Rafa criticised in the warm up for the big one.

I mean I did have a small suspicion Nadal wasn't giving his absolute 100% in the Paris semi, maybe because he was so helpless on return.
But I'm not sure his current 100% will be enough to win 4 out of 5 matches in this format.
It will require him to GOAT on serve/return, and it depends on what the others bring to the table too.

demrle · Nov 12, 2020

aldeayeah said:
Betting places have this (https://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/atp-world-tour-finals/winner):

Djokovic: between 13/8 (38.1%) and 5/4 (44.4%)
Nadal: between 5 (16.7%) and 10/3 (23.1%)
Med: between 6 (14.3%) and 5 (16.7%)
Domi: betwen 8 (11.1%) and 13/2 (13.3%)
Zed: between 8 (11.1%) and 7 (12.5%)
Rubles: between 11 (8.35%) and 10 (9.1%)
Tsitsi: between 12 (7.7%) and 10 (9.1%)
Diego: between 33 (2.9%) and 25 (3.8%)

I think Rafa is a tad overrated in the betting sites, but maybe I'm the one underrating him?
Rubles is grossly overrated IMO, he's beaten literally nobody of consequence or won anything big.

They're attracting the bets by giving Rafa better odds. An indicator that the bettors see him as less of a favorite not that the bookies are overrating him. Same thing with Rublev. Methinks.

UnderratedSlam · Nov 12, 2020

TennisFan3 said:
There is NOTHING bold in that. Thiem is the 2nd likeliest player after Novak.

I am not so sure about Novak...

He hasn't won it since 2015, and he did it 5 times previously.

Those are pretty imposing statistics. All those wins, then suddenly nothing. Can't be a coincidence.

Losing two finales he should have won are also very telling.

I am calling it now. Novak will not win this event.

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Rublev

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