Craig Sheppard
Hall of Fame
Wow is it nice to park it on Sunday and watch the games!!!! Nothing's as good as the NFL.
Thank Gawd the NFL is back
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sportsfan92
Rookie
hmmm....that used to be the case for me. now i can't get enough tennis. but nfl runs a close second! i turn the games on and get my housework done - then sit and watch the highlights. college football is slightly higher on the list than nfl - because i have a true loyalty - even if they drive me crazy sometimes.
sportsfan92
Rookie
lak!!! my heart breaks for you. hey - we went by soldier field when we were in chicago. and perhaps my highlihgt (sorry) was lambeau field. soooooooo want to see favre there before the end of the season - as surely this will be his last. although just hope me makes it through the season. he (they) look horrible.
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StealthGnome
Semi-Pro
Go 49ers. >.> We're over due.
forzainter
Semi-Pro
Wrong, what about the Rugby World cup 2007?
Fitter players, Faster played, no non-stop breaks in play, no over complicated rules, actually having technique to tackling instead of just barging into the other player and using their big plastic pads. Rugbys for the tougher, stronger, and physically better athletes in the world
Breaker
Legend
Wrong, what about the Rugby World cup 2007?
Typical Europeans, can't stand it when Americans are better at a sport they wouldn't last five seconds in
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Phil
Hall of Fame
Gee, I ALMOST feel sorry for the Browns. NOT!
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sportsfan92
Rookie
yes - he did his thang! got it done. that one drive was amazing. just never quites. love it!
Phil
Hall of Fame
I would bet that if the typical NFL fullback were let loose on a rugby field, he would cause absolute havoc. The entire opposing team would have footprints implanted on their foreheads. I've watched rugby and those guys tackle like shiate.Wrong, what about the Rugby World cup 2007?
sportsfan92
Rookie
well said phil. well said. ever heard of javorskie lane at tx a&m...he'd kill out there. absolutely takes 3-4 blokes to take him down in pads... unreal!
Wrong, what about the Rugby World cup 2007?
Fitter players? An NFL RB put onto a rugby field(pitch?) would decimate. They are bigger, faster, stronger and just about every other thing you can think of. Maybe not tougher though.
Craig Sheppard
Hall of Fame
Yeah I've watched rugby. NFL starters would shred them to bits.
My Broncos got off to a nail biting 15-14 win, but good enough for me!!!
WAR SHANNY
My Broncos got off to a nail biting 15-14 win, but good enough for me!!!
WAR SHANNY
Craig Sheppard
Hall of Fame
Agree with that, they should've ditched Coughlin, not Tiki. He said he would've kept playing if they got rid of Coughlin. Don't understand why they keep him... doesn't do them any good.
king of swing
Rookie
GO Bears!!!
any else with me?
any else with me?
lol, the chargers owned them, and took out 2 of their players.
Yeah I was sick about it...
I just watched a rugby game yesterday and I'm not so sure the NFL would fare as well as some of you think. The running backs might be ok, the wide receivers wouldn't make it and the quarterbacks? No way. The linesmen are pretty out of shape, they huff and puff after a few downs and generally are slow as hail.
forzainter
Semi-Pro
i doubt it but that is my opinion, it would be an interesting experiment, to get some rugby players to play high level american football and american football players to play high level rugby
Phil
Hall of Fame
Why do you doubt it? You seem to know very little or nothing about American football, so even if it is your opinion, it is surely one based on ignorance.
Kevin T
Hall of Fame
Owned them?! Please!!! The Chargers looked horrible! They would have scored ZERO points without the help of multiple Bears turnovers. That game should have ended 3-0 or 6-0 Bears, if Chicago had more than a DIII level quarterback. I'm a Bears fan that lives in San Diego. I honestly didn't think the Bears would return to the Super Bowl this year but after watching New Orleans and Philly play like punks, me thinks they have a good shot. The Chargers better get ready for Indy and the Pats 'cause if the Bears can hang with them offensively, the Colts and Pats will light 'em up for 30-35. Check the stats lines for the Chargers' offense. The Bears shut them down.
Kevin T
Hall of Fame
I don't doubt it at all. I wasn't pro level but I did play at a top 20 DI college and played rugby recreationally at a pretty high level with ex-college players a few years after graduating. Don't get me wrong, there are some very fast, tough, strong guys but not many at the NFL's level. The collisions aren't nearly as violent. The difference in speed and strength are very stark. Like Phil said, put Ladanian or any other NFL back, most of whom bench 350-400, squat 500-600 and run 4.2-4.4 forties and they would tear up a rugby field.
ShooterMcMarco
Hall of Fame
Seattle Seahawks, 2008 Superbowl Champions
forzainter
Semi-Pro
no.1 if that was in the USA then how are you supposed to get a good comparison, USA suck at rugby, they only got close to England because England suck too.
no2. Maybe thats because there is absolutely no technique to NFL tackling and the fattest and most heavily padded linebacker just has to run into the other player.
no3. Maybe they can do that and its very impressive, but most NFL plays last about 10 seconds or something, in Rugby the ball stays in play for sometimes up to 20 minutes a time or more.NFL players dont have the stamina.
forzainter
Semi-Pro
who would you rather face? a guy who looks like this:
and tackles like this http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xrbp1ASVhCg
or a guy who looks like this:
and plays like this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJdCZTlRIsc
I'd rather choose the guy on the bottom to get hit by
or a guy who looks like this:
and plays like this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJdCZTlRIsc
I'd rather choose the guy on the bottom to get hit by
tenniskid3119
Semi-Pro
Cowboys !! - America's Team baby
Supernatural_Serve
Professional
Hey forzainter. Pretty easy when you hand-pick. The fact of the matter is, the guy on top would never catch anyone on the field, making him absolutely, and completely useless.
Rugby's a matter of not being the last guy the ball can be thrown at, because that's all they do: getting rid of the ball or not having time to do so and getting drilled. Mental patients could play rugby, not football.
Rugby's a matter of not being the last guy the ball can be thrown at, because that's all they do: getting rid of the ball or not having time to do so and getting drilled. Mental patients could play rugby, not football.
Kevin T
Hall of Fame
who would you rather face? a guy who looks like this:
and tackles like this http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xrbp1ASVhCg
or a guy who looks like this:
and plays like this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJdCZTlRIsc
I'd rather choose the guy on the bottom to get hit by
I've played both, one at a very high level (football) and one (rugby) with college players (at least a decent level), so I can definitely make a better comaparison that you. I'll take the guy on top any day of the week. I'm 32 years old but I'll take that guy on 10 times a day before one attempt with an NFL linebacker of defensive end. Brian Urlacher of the Bears will eat that guy's cookies ANY day of the week. I played at a D1 shool, VA Tech, which is perenially top 20 in the nation and the next step down from Pro level. Granted, the USA sucks at rugby but even though rugby is probably the 50th most popular sport in our country, we still manage to give good old England (top 10 in the world and rugby is probably the 2nd most popular sport) all they want and be ranked in the top 20. We (the USA) always produce some of the best track teams in the world. Everyone knows (despite recent losses) we have the best basketball athletes in the world. There is no denying the athleticism of the NFL. If we put our best athletes into rugby, why wouldn't we dominate? Euro and South American basketball and soccer athletes are notorious for being "soft". Why would Mother England and all her Commonwealth spawn produce such fantastic athletes in rugby when they can't in any other sport, with the exception of soccer? And even soccer is debatable.
forzainter
Semi-Pro
you have to understand that the reason those soft people play football and basketball is because they arent tough enough to play rugby, and again, you're playing rugby in USA, dont expect anything great
Kevin T
Hall of Fame
That's all well and good but you still haven't explained why we (USA) could hang with Englad in a sport we could give a toss about. The best athletes in the football/rugby mold in other countries play rugby. Here in the USA, they play football because 1. no one (in relative terms) plays rugby-there are very, very few junior/high school leagues and 2. why play rugby in the USA and be poor when you can play football and be a multi-millionaire?
And I don't expect anything great from rugby in the USA but at least I can make an educated comparison having played both. And by the way, I think these rugby guys are tough and fantastic athletes and in many cases, especially compared to NFL linemen, they do have more stamina and are better overall athletes. But to call them tougher, stronger, faster, harder hitters in flat-out false.
forzainter
Semi-Pro
i could say the same about you and rugby my good sir
forzainter
Semi-Pro
i thouht i explained, England suck, they have gone steadily downhill since RWC2003 and wil continue to suck, while USA are getting better, there is now even a big national rugby training center in San Francisco with good facilities
FWIW, my alma mater has one of the best rugby teams in the country (the best when I was attentding) AND it's a top Pac-10 football team. A lot of the athletes played both football and rugby.
ANYWAY . . . can you guys believe what the Pats did to the Chargers? Wow, cheaters or not, that's one scary team team.
ANYWAY . . . can you guys believe what the Pats did to the Chargers? Wow, cheaters or not, that's one scary team team.
