Nadal vs. Calleri -- Sportsmanship

VamosRafa

Hall of Fame
I alluded to this below, but I just got more info about what happened in the Nadal vs. Calleri quarterfinal match in Brasil.

Because of rain, both of them played matches earlier today, which they won. And they played their quarterfinal match as the last match of the day. Their last two matches have been very competitive, and going into today they were 1-1.

I saw that Rafa had won the match 6-2, 6-3 on the scoreboard, and was putting that up on the vamosrafael.com website. But when I went to verify the score, I saw it was heading to a tiebreak.

We have now more info as to what happened, as translated from Spanish/Portugese, courtesy of a bi-lingual fan on our site:

"The Costa do Sauipe website article about the match Nadal-Calleri says that in `the second match point when Nadal was serving 5-3 up to win the match, Nadal served and the return of Calleri was very close to the line, then the umpire said " out ", but when Calleri was going to the net to shake hands with Nadal, Rafa corrected the decision and said the ball was " in "."

As the article said, this fair play behaviour could cost him the match, because after the match point Calleri broke Nadal in that game 5-4, Calleri confidence grew up and they arrived to the tie break where Calleri was always up and won it after a winner."

Rafa did win the match in the third set. He broke twice, Calleri broke once, but in the end Rafa prevailed 6-4.

Some fans are concerned Rafa expended too much energy today, and won't be fit to face home-town favorte Mello tomorrow.

That could be true -- but what he did today was something Moya would do.

Although he has a a very competitive instinct, it's nice to see he also has that element of sportsmanship.
 
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RoddickRulez

Guest
i love nadal his game everything and to hear that makes me like him even more
 
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Gugafan_Redux

Guest
Holy cow. Match point, return is called out by the ump. I'd b shaking hands so fast. Credit to Rafa.
 

predrag

Professional
Gugafan_Redux said:
Holy cow. Match point, return is called out by the ump. I'd b shaking hands so fast. Credit to Rafa.

Actually I did this twice in my life.
The only thing is, I lost both times.
Wowed not to do it again :):)
Never had a chance, luckily :D

Regards, Predrag
 

baseliner

Professional
Too bad that noted sportsman John Mcenroe wasn't calling the match. Good sportsmanship is always in vogue. Kudos to Nadal.
 

Kevin Patrick

Hall of Fame
A couple of other impressive displays of sportsmanship:
4th Round of the '01 Aussie Open, Grosjean serves an ace against Norman on match point but it is called out. Norman says it was good & shakes hands.

This one gets my vote for best sportsmanship of all time:
semis of the '82 French- 17 year old Wilander has match point against Clerc (& this was after 4 hours of play) During a long rally one of Clerc's shots is called out. Wilander says it was good & they play the point over, Wilander wins the match twice.
 

raftermania

Banned
Hey guys, I replied to this in the handedness thread (of all places right?!) and I was wondering if anyone knew which other players have concede a matchpoint. hehe, looks like we had some admissions about giving up matchpoints from some users on the board. Too bad Predrag, keep up that attitude it should provide fruits for the future.

But the real moral question you have to ask is if Rafa would have done the same in the finals of the French?? ehhhhhh???? :wink:
 
good sportsmanship, but I think players should not try to change umps call, should go with it no matter what- Nadal should have kept quiet and went up to shake his hand, Calleri did not even care anyways. Would have saved tons of energy. I would love to see a 5 setter grand slam championship match 6-0, 6-0, and up 5-0 serving at 40-0 and change a bad call and end up losing 6-0, 6-0, 5-7, 0-6, 0-6. I would laugh at that for ages.
 

K!ck5w3rvE

Hall of Fame
raftermania said:
But the real moral question you have to ask is if Rafa would have done the same in the finals of the French?? ehhhhhh????

Of course he would have. The thing about good sportsmanship is that you don't think about doing it; or think about overruling the ump or anything like that, you just do it because you instinctively do it. Its not something you bragg about or anything like that, you do it because it's the right thing to do.
 

equinox

Hall of Fame
This was a very sporting gesture from nadal. Though i really think he have let the umpire do his job.
 

VamosRafa

Hall of Fame
equinox said:
This was a very sporting gesture from nadal. Though i really think he have let the umpire do his job.

It may come back to bite him in today's final. He has spent a lot more time on court than Alberto Martin -- and much of that was spent in the wee hours (after rain delays), playing that third set against Calleri.

And then he faced the hostile crowd against Mello in another tough three setter, when Martin was playing an Australian qualifier.

So, in hindsight, his sportsmanship may cost him quite a bit.

But still, it was a nice thing to do.
 

VamosRafa

Hall of Fame
equinox said:
This was a very sporting gesture from nadal. Though i really think he have let the umpire do his job.

It may come back to bite him in today's final. He has spent a lot more time on court than Alberto Martin -- and much of that was spent in the wee hours (after rain delays), playing that third set against Calleri.

And then he faced the hostile crowd against Mello in another tough three setter, when Martin was playing an Australian qualifier.

So, in hindsight, his sportsmanship may cost him quite a bit.

But still, it was a nice thing (and the right thing) to do.
 

Aykhan Mammadov

Hall of Fame
Don't you overestimate the heroism of Nadal ?

Don't you forget that they played on clay court where it is obviously seen and there is a track of the ball - is it out or in ?

If he did it on grass, hard or carpet court I would appreciate him, but in the case of clay it is considered as a dishonest action if you don't tell the truth, because that truth is evidently lying on the court.

I saw many times Safin told the truth and was very correct with opponents. But nobody here at forum mentioned that about Safin.

In general, I'm surprising that there is a group of posters whose nick-name directly or indirectly connected with Nadal. Will it make him a great tennis-player as those I mentioned in my another thread " VERY VERY INTERESTING FACTS" ?
 

Aykhan Mammadov

Hall of Fame
I was prohibited at forum last a few days and my threads were invisible for a few days.

In the post 16 I suggested another view to behavior of Nadal which you didn't see. I want to revive this thread.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
For those constantly accusing Rafa of being a cheater: Rafa was always a remarkable example of sportsmanship. That's one of the stories that have defined him as a player: pure class.
 

ronalditop

Hall of Fame
For those constantly accusing Rafa of being a cheater: Rafa was always a remarkable example of sportsmanship. That's one of the stories that have defined him as a player: pure class.

roflmfao.jpg
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
Don't you overestimate the heroism of Nadal ?

Don't you forget that they played on clay court where it is obviously seen and there is a track of the ball - is it out or in ?

If he did it on grass, hard or carpet court I would appreciate him, but in the case of clay it is considered as a dishonest action if you don't tell the truth, because that truth is evidently lying on the court.

I saw many times Safin told the truth and was very correct with opponents. But nobody here at forum mentioned that about Safin.

In general, I'm surprising that there is a group of posters whose nick-name directly or indirectly connected with Nadal. Will it make him a great tennis-player as those I mentioned in my another thread " VERY VERY INTERESTING FACTS" ?

did it during USO final against Joker
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Nadal's world ranking at the time this thread was started was 48. He had an amazing rise over the next few months.
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
I alluded to this below, but I just got more info about what happened in the Nadal vs. Calleri quarterfinal match in Brasil.

Because of rain, both of them played matches earlier today, which they won. And they played their quarterfinal match as the last match of the day. Their last two matches have been very competitive, and going into today they were 1-1.

I saw that Rafa had won the match 6-2, 6-3 on the scoreboard, and was putting that up on the vamosrafael.com website. But when I went to verify the score, I saw it was heading to a tiebreak.

We have now more info as to what happened, as translated from Spanish/Portugese, courtesy of a bi-lingual fan on our site:

"The Costa do Sauipe website article about the match Nadal-Calleri says that in `the second match point when Nadal was serving 5-3 up to win the match, Nadal served and the return of Calleri was very close to the line, then the umpire said " out ", but when Calleri was going to the net to shake hands with Nadal, Rafa corrected the decision and said the ball was " in "."

As the article said, this fair play behaviour could cost him the match, because after the match point Calleri broke Nadal in that game 5-4, Calleri confidence grew up and they arrived to the tie break where Calleri was always up and won it after a winner."

Rafa did win the match in the third set. He broke twice, Calleri broke once, but in the end Rafa prevailed 6-4.

Some fans are concerned Rafa expended too much energy today, and won't be fit to face home-town favorte Mello tomorrow.

That could be true -- but what he did today was something Moya would do.

Although he has a a very competitive instinct, it's nice to see he also has that element of sportsmanship.

Yeah, but, would he have done it against Federer?
PS: Uggh! I just realized I've responeded to a post from 2005! Guh!
 
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woodrow1029

Guest
For those constantly accusing Rafa of being a cheater: Rafa was always a remarkable example of sportsmanship. That's one of the stories that have defined him as a player: pure class.

As Aykhan's avatar suggests:

 
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decades

Guest
rafa has not played in almost a month. he just played three entire sets. when are people going to stop babying these players?
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
As Aykhan's avatar suggests:

That is an annoying little guy maniacally banging his head. It's not an argument. No player is ever obliged to give up a point in a situation like that, Rafa chose to do it and he still regularly does it (although not necessarily on match point!) and I've noticed not all players do it, far from it. As I said: class.
 
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