Tempest344
Professional
what film have you seen that
had the most original central idea/plot, way it was filmed etc
mine would have to be Memento
had the most original central idea/plot, way it was filmed etc
mine would have to be Memento
most original film you've seen?
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Shahar26
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I would say The Matrix - Original, the other 2 just ruined it for me....
I remember leaving the theater after seeing it and thinking it was one of the best movies I've seen.
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yodudedudeyo
Guest
Aladin, or the Lion King
CityHeightsTennis
Rookie
what about "I Love Lucy"........
I think it would have to be The Prestige. While it's not my all time favorite film, nor has it influenced me the most, but I do think it fits your criteria the best.
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jmsx521
Hall of Fame
You people need to go back 30-40 years behind to see the most original movies, from the French New Wave movement, in the 60s. Many were art movies. Others had strange interruptions, such as -- you would see the camera person filming the movie, in the movie (Breathless, 1960). No hi-tech effects back in that time, but storyline-wise... great stuff!
CityHeightsTennis
Rookie
"I Love Lucy"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yodudedudeyo
Guest
I can't believe I forgot about one of my favorite movies of all time..
...Forrest Gump
...Forrest Gump
AM28143
Semi-Pro
The book is better.
maneater
Semi-Pro
haha yeaa i mean "Gosh...you Idiots"
Phil
Hall of Fame
Yes, this one is certainly original. There are a couple scenes in that film that I keep replaying...over and over and over and over again. And then again, and again, and again.
Andres, you probably know which scenes I'm talking about...
Gmedlo
Professional
Surprised it took that long for someone to post it. I mean, for god's sake, the movie cost/revenue proportion was unimaginably low.
forzainter
Semi-Pro
A scanner darkly was pretty original, wasnt that good though, no country for old men is fantastic as someone said, but I wouldn't class it as being that original, City of God was also quite original and fantastic, and the tv show (City Of Men) is no different
ananda
Semi-Pro
an excellent pic/k.
Craig Sheppard
Hall of Fame
Anyone seen the movie "Pi"? Was entertaining, filmed interestingly, and makes you think.
Dedans Penthouse
Legend
--most 'original' Film--
1. The Tommy Lee - Pamela Anderson movie
...(honorable mention: the Tanya Harding - Jeff Gillooly movie)
2. "Morgan" (Venessa Redgrave)
3. "Reflections in a Golden Eye" (Marlon Brando/Elizabeth Taylor)
4. "Pulp Fiction" (the 'circular' vs. 'linear' staged theme)
5. D.W. Griffith's "Birth of a Nation"
6. "Teenage Stewardesses From Outer Space"
1. The Tommy Lee - Pamela Anderson movie
...(honorable mention: the Tanya Harding - Jeff Gillooly movie)
2. "Morgan" (Venessa Redgrave)
3. "Reflections in a Golden Eye" (Marlon Brando/Elizabeth Taylor)
4. "Pulp Fiction" (the 'circular' vs. 'linear' staged theme)
5. D.W. Griffith's "Birth of a Nation"
6. "Teenage Stewardesses From Outer Space"
Andres
G.O.A.T.
I certainly do! :mrgreen:Yes, this one is certainly original. There are a couple scenes in that film that I keep replaying...over and over and over and over again. And then again, and again, and again.
Andres, you probably know which scenes I'm talking about...
princess bossass
Semi-Pro
Elephant Man and Dancer in the Dark. Both took an age-old theme (the parent-child bond) and explored it unique, extremely dark ways.
35ft6
Legend
I actually described City of God, one of my favorite movies of all time, as being wonderfully derivative. I could see the influences right away, but they copied so damn well. Anyway, originality is an overrated virtue. And I say this from the point of view of somebody who used to read for production companies. I've read a LOT of awful scripts, and the two kinds that were the most awful fell on the opposite ends of the extreme -- ones where the writer was clearly trying to COPY a style and voice that they didn't understand but thought would be marketable, and then there were the "I'm not a Hollywood writer man, I'm original, I don't play by any rules, screw 3 act structure" scripts trying hard to convince you that it's lack of coherence and polish is actually originality, but maybe you've been too brainwashed by Hollywood conventions to recognize genius when you see it.
Kind of think there is nothing new under the sun, so originality is knowing the craft, taking a pre-existing idea, giving it a twist, and executing to the best of your ability. Which is kind of what City of God did.
princess bossass
Semi-Pro
It's what Shakespeare did, too. What, he created maybe two, three of his actual plotlines from nothing? The rest were already there for him--he had to tweak them, flesh them out, decorate them, what have you, but he didn't invent them or unbury them from the recesses of his mind. Also, if you research some of his most famous soliloquies, you can find that even individual lines are often borrowed from various sources, sometimes word-for-word, sometimes in very close paraphrase.
And I don't think it takes away from his creative genius whatsoever. All writing is, to some extent, pastiche.
That said--I HIGHLY preferred your old avatar.
Phil
Hall of Fame
And Double Secret Honorable Mention:
The alleged Meg White (of the White Stripes) romp in the sack "movie"...
iradical18
Professional
City of God is a great pick, it's one of my favorites. I would also throw in a couple of movies that are made fun of by the folks on MST3K. They may not be great but I'll be damned if they're not original.
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Mike Bulgakov
G.O.A.T.
Two films that come to mind are Breathless and Breaking the Waves.
Jean-Luc Godard's Breathless introduced jump cuts to film audiences. This changed the concept of space and time in editing. At the time, audiences were confused by the now everyday jump cuts. MTV music videos influenced films in the 1980's and rapid, dislocated cutting became the norm. Today's audiences generally expect rapid cutting and grow uncomfortable with long and static shots.
Lars Von Trier's Breaking the Waves used hand held cameras that followed the actors and allowed more movement and the illusion of a documentary style realism. This was part of the Dogma 95 movement. Von Trier's Riget (The Kingdom) television series used the same filming style and was (consciously?) emulated by Ricky Gervais' The Office series. The American version of The Office uses the style to a lesser extent.
Incidentally, I feel bad for Meg White regarding her alleged debut as an actress. I think it took a serious psychological toll on her.
Jean-Luc Godard's Breathless introduced jump cuts to film audiences. This changed the concept of space and time in editing. At the time, audiences were confused by the now everyday jump cuts. MTV music videos influenced films in the 1980's and rapid, dislocated cutting became the norm. Today's audiences generally expect rapid cutting and grow uncomfortable with long and static shots.
Lars Von Trier's Breaking the Waves used hand held cameras that followed the actors and allowed more movement and the illusion of a documentary style realism. This was part of the Dogma 95 movement. Von Trier's Riget (The Kingdom) television series used the same filming style and was (consciously?) emulated by Ricky Gervais' The Office series. The American version of The Office uses the style to a lesser extent.
Incidentally, I feel bad for Meg White regarding her alleged debut as an actress. I think it took a serious psychological toll on her.
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BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
I know exactly which scenes you're talking about.Yes, this one is certainly original. There are a couple scenes in that film that I keep replaying...over and over and over and over again. And then again, and again, and again.
Andres, you probably know which scenes I'm talking about...
I also replay a certain scene in Sin City over and over as well.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
As far as original films:
1. 2001: A Sapce Odyssey
2. Planet of the Apes (original 1968 version)
3. Forrest Gump
4. Star Wars (1977)
5. Logan's Run
6. 10
7. Tommy
8. Psycho
9. Courage Under Fire
10. There's Something About Mary
1. 2001: A Sapce Odyssey
2. Planet of the Apes (original 1968 version)
3. Forrest Gump
4. Star Wars (1977)
5. Logan's Run
6. 10
7. Tommy
8. Psycho
9. Courage Under Fire
10. There's Something About Mary
0range
Hall of Fame
I second that.
kairosntx
Professional
I will also vote for City of God. And for anyone that is counting that is 3 votes. If you haven't seen it, it's a must see. There are a lot of mainstream movies on most peoples lists.
others for me are Maria llena de Gracia (Maria full of Grace) and La Vita e Bella (Life is Beautiful).
others for me are Maria llena de Gracia (Maria full of Grace) and La Vita e Bella (Life is Beautiful).
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
anyone remember THX1138. I know its a long way back!
Another coming to mind ... Being John Malkovic
What about the Anime type ?
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Yes, I forgot about that one. Good one!
Mike Bulgakov
G.O.A.T.
Interesting list, BP. Kubrick's 2001 was far ahead of its time. It really influenced the great directors of the 1970's. Tarkovsky's Solaris was a couple of years behind Kubrick. Star Wars and Spielberg's Jaws changed the business side of the Hollywood industry. Star Wars had a more lasting effect, especially regarding the relevance of special effects in blockbusters.
Psycho was the first blood and horror Hollywood blockbuster; John Carpenter's Halloween was Psycho 2.0 and led to the teenage horror genre. There's Something About Mary opened new territory for comedy and made me uncomfortable about applying hair gel for about a year.
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Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Rain Man (Cruise, Hoffman)
Groundshog Day (could not stand it, but was it original ??)
Shawshank Redemption
Anyone see a movie called What Dreams May Come (starring Robin Williams) ?? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120889/
Groundshog Day (could not stand it, but was it original ??)
Shawshank Redemption
Anyone see a movie called What Dreams May Come (starring Robin Williams) ?? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120889/
Mike Bulgakov
G.O.A.T.
Being John Malkovic was a very good and original film...nice addition to the list. Fast Times At Ridgemont High expanded its genre, but like The Shawshank Redemption (a great film), it will be remembered for the excellent screenplay, cast and well-crafted filmmaking, but not for breaking new territory.
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