KFactor K6.1 95: what version is it?

Tennis Man

Tennis Man

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I just traded a racquet here on TT after a long absense and got this monster. It was supposed to be a brand new KFactor K6.1 95 (16x18 ). After inspecting it I noticed the following:

* the print on one side says K 6.1 Tour
* the actual string pattern 16 X 19 (not 16 X 18 )
* the print inside the throat says:

- string pattern 16 X 19
- head size 90 sq in (although it's clearly 98 head)
- weight 320 g (11.3)
- balance 31.5 (8 pts HL)

* the warranty sticker has no serial number on it
* there is no Made in China sign anywhere on the racquet
* the grommet pieces are sticking out at the throat
* the paint finish is matte
* the black plastic buttcap has no 3-letter code, just a red trap door
* the grip is not Wilson True Grip but made of some cheap plastic

WHAT IS IT?

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Tennis Man

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also the buttcap is not shiny plastic but black plastic with red square door with W on it. What is it supposed to be?
 
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SFrazeur

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It does not look real to me. For one there does not appear to be flanges where the neck meets the head. It does not look to be a 6.1 mold racquet.

-SF
 
Tennis Man

Tennis Man

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still, is there a possibility that it's real earlier Wilson Kfactor frame with some messed up PJ (just guessing).

I got it for my GF and she loves it but I feel like I was screwed. I haven't talked to the seller about it yet.
 
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hellojeffo

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Just want to point out that it looks like a cross between a K61 Tour 90 and a K61 95....

The profile is not really round, but it's not exactly rectangular.... (90/95 hybrid?)

The Paint finishing is matt and not polished (90)

The Head size "looks" like a 95

The string pattern is 16 x 19, which is right...

Weight of 320g is the Asian K factor 90 weight...

Grip 4 1/4 is the most common fakie sized sticks (if not the only size)

The Bumper guard looks shady to me....

And the 9 oclock part of the hoop, is tooooooo thin for a k90 or k95...

Last thing, all the K95 or K90 that i've seen, the original sticker is BELOW the Designed in USA print, rather than above...
 
Tennis Man

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hellojeffo said:
Just want to point out that it looks like a cross between a K61 Tour 90 and a K61 95....

The profile is not really round, but it's not exactly rectangular.... (90/95 hybrid?)

The Paint finishing is matt and not polished (90)

The Head size "looks" like a 95

The string pattern is 16 x 19, which is right...

Weight of 320g is the Asian K factor 90 weight...

Grip 4 1/4 is the most common fakie sized sticks (if not the only size)

The Bumper guard looks shady to me....

And the 9 oclock part of the hoop, is tooooooo thin for a k90 or k95...

Last thing, all the K95 or K90 that i've seen, the original sticker is BELOW the Designed in USA print, rather than above...
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thank for pointing this out. I would know the difference although it does look similar to my K90 in every way but the size :)

The label is almost identical to this but balance is 31.5 (8 or 9 pts HL)

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Tennis Man

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ok, if it is fake I never had one before. Will it play like a real one given that the string and swing weight feel just a bit lighter than K90. I would say it's just like the Asian versions of PS 90 that I traded for it.
 
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KFwinds

Professional
It might play ok, but it definitely looks like you got a fakie...

Some of the tell-tale signs are there: small (asian) grip size but not marked, wrong string pattern (for the headsize), wrong butt-cap; looks to be a fakie.
 
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Tennis Man

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Thanks to all. Whatever it is, it my first fake traded from a guy with no references on this board. I guess the first one for him will be coming soon.
 
nalk7

nalk7

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where did u trade it? if u got it from the sell and trade section could we have his screen name? just to have everybody watch out and prevent other rip-offs like this one.
 
Tennis Man

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nalk7 said:
where did u trade it? if u got it from the sell and trade section could we have his screen name? just to have everybody watch out and prevent other rip-offs like this one.
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That's exactly what I will do as soon as I confirm his screen name and talk to the guy. I have to get to the bottom of it first.
 
PimpMyGame

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Tennis Man said:
still, is there a possibility that it's real earlier Wilson Kfactor frame with some messed up PJ (just guessing).

I got it for my GF and she loves it but I feel like I was screwed. I haven't talked to the seller about it yet.
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If your GF loves it, and it's structurally sound, then you should consider dropping this. I know it's not nice being sold a pup but you have to weigh up stirring the hornet's nest vs your GF's happiness.
 
Tennis Man

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PimpMyGame said:
If your GF loves it, and it's structurally sound, then you should consider dropping this. I know it's not nice being sold a pup but you have to weigh up stirring the hornet's nest vs your GF's happiness.
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I agree but there are 2 issues here:

1. The trade was made based on the value of a brand new original KFactor 6.1 95 with all it's original specs (why I went for it in the first place). I traded my rare Asian PS 90 Tour for it.

2. if the guy is a fraud. He will do the same to others.
 
lilxjohnyy

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hey tennis man, arent you the guy who started the huge thread about racket pics? nice to see you back. im pretty sure its a fake because compared to my k95 its nothing alike.
 
Tennis Man

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Thanks, I'm back ... to refresh my arsenal :)

My first deal was a disaster. I guess I lost my caution and this marketplace is flooded with Chinese fakes now. Thank god I'm sticking to the classic frames. Has anyone seen a fake PS 85 yet?
 
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KFwinds

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BTW, as a side note to this thread; beware of this model racquet on the big auction site right now, as there are a bunch for sale that are probably questionable from a seller in China. The "buy it now" prices for brand new sticks is between $99 and $155. I wouldn't touch these myself.
 
Tennis Man

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KFwinds said:
BTW, as a side note to this thread; beware of this model racquet on the big auction site right now, as there are a bunch for sale that are probably questionable from a seller in China. The "buy it now" prices for brand new sticks is between $99 and $155. I wouldn't touch these myself.
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170226683116, 170226688165, etc? It's hard to tell if it's the same without seeing the actual picture. The one I got is around 98 head and 16x19 pattern.
 
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Octavianus

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lilxjohnyy said:
hey tennis man, arent you the guy who started the huge thread about racket pics? nice to see you back. im pretty sure its a fake because compared to my k95 its nothing alike.
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I fully agree, I also have two Ksix-One 95's and your racquet does not look anything like mine. Your racquet is a square beam, more like a K90.
 
Dark_Angel85

Dark_Angel85

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Surely a fake

It's like a k90 PJ over a k95? hehehe

But the grommets, specs of the string patterns are all off.

The racquet frame of a 95, string pattern of a 90, finish of a 95... la la la la la...

fake. Sorry for being too frank
 
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hellojeffo

Rookie
Tennis Man said:
Thanks, I'm back ... to refresh my arsenal :)

My first deal was a disaster. I guess I lost my caution and this marketplace is flooded with Chinese fakes now. Thank god I'm sticking to the classic frames. Has anyone seen a fake PS 85 yet?
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Oh dear God please forbid that from happening.... :-?
 
Tennis Man

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Ok, what do you guys think I should do with this piece of s&*^t?

1) sell/trade it a a fake (with full disclosure),

2) keep it as a souvenir

3) other?
 
Tennis Man

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tennisguy7482 said:
send it to wilson so they can inspect and possibly find out where it came from and go after the factory.
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sounds like a donation :)

No, I mean the racquet is graphite and plays like a lighter beginner frame. It still has some value, right? I'm out $140 on this deal. So maybe I can reimburse a portion of it.

Oh, BTW, if anybody sees an Asian PS 90 (smooth, non-sandpaper paint, grip 4 1/2, still strung with grey Topspin Cyberflash) posted in Virginia, let us know.
 
geesechops

geesechops

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I want to get in contact with these fake makers so I can get some of my PS85's painted like K90's :) I'd pay $99 a frame just for that.
 
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