Number one player with worst FH or BH

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Who do you think the number one player with the worst FH or BH was?

It doesn't have to be both strokes, just one or the other.
 
M

Morrissey

Guest
Quite a few. Moya and Courier's backhands. Rafter and Edberg's forehands. McEnroe's forehand and backhand.
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
Have to agree with Moya's backhand. I'll add Safin in for forehand.

Um, safin has one of the best forehands out there I think. Very solid off both sides. The thing thats been holding back is mental toughness, not really strokes
 

Toxicmilk

Professional
Federer's backhand and Sampras's backhand come to mind.

Oh come on, it's clear you say that ONLY because you dislike these two.
The thread asks for the number one(s) with the worst.

I'm pretty sure Fed's backhand is much much better than the backhands of people like Roddick, among others =.=
 

JeMar

Legend
Federer's backhand and Sampras's backhand come to mind.

http://www.tennis.com/features/greatestshots/greatestshots.aspx?id=108756

Tennis Magazine's best backhands of all time.

Nadal doesn't appear there, yet Federer does.

Please mind your tennis history and watch some Federer matches where there isn't some guy driving insanely high and deep forehands into it every single point and you'll see what a great stroke it is. Nadal's lefty cross-court forehand can make anyone's one-handed backhand look bad. With a one-handed backhand you trade being able to hit those balls over your head for versatility and slightly longer reach.
 

SirBlend12

Semi-Pro
Don't feed... seriously... don't respond to the trouble-starter. If I see one more ****** thread that goes 200+ pages because someone wanted to argue about some stupid comment, I swear to God...

Sorry. Went a little nuts there.

Seriously, though. LET IT GO BEFORE IT"S TOO LATE!

EDIT: Can't you people sense sarcasm. I THINK his post was a joke...
 

1st Seed

Professional
Nadal's horrible form.That upper cut forehand is'nt proper at all.Never should have been taught.Tony's to blame for that one,Maria same crap.Too much topspin.
 

The_Steak

Rookie
What 1st seed? From has nothing to do with how good or bad a stroke is. The reason nadal is number one is because of those high topsin strokes...

Too much topspin? No such thing as "too much topspin"
 

1st Seed

Professional
Form has nothing to do with how good or bad a stroke is? Can't believe you said that.Your right with the last part.Just sayin from a coaches stand point.The uppercut forehand should not be taught.Blake would give him a free lesson I,m sure.
 

The_Steak

Rookie
Form is helpful, but if Nadal can successfully beat top players like Federer using his own style of play, 5 stars to him. Sure, his stroke is not pretty but again, he is number 1 because of it.
 

GameSampras

Banned
Sampras' poor BH was the result of the old crap Archaic Wilson Pro Staff. Look at his BH today with the new racket. Its better than Roger's
 

thejoe

Hall of Fame
Sampras' poor BH was the result of the old crap Archaic Wilson Pro Staff. Look at his BH today with the new racket. Its better than Roger's

It isn't better than Roger's I'm afraid. Pete hasn't had Nadal pounding high deep forehands at it. Are you going on the exhibitions and senior tour? For me, Federer is far stronger on both wings from the baseline.

Can I just ask how the racket affected it in any way? He could still pound his serves and forehands. His backhand just wasn't a particularly strong shot. Deal with it.

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Federer's backhand and Sampras's backhand come to mind.

I'm sorry, the Federer backhand is a great stroke. Sure, it breaks down when he has to play deep balls over his hand, this is tough for any one-hander. This is the same reason that ten year olds who have just started the game can beat players far better than them. High balls are horrible to play against, especially for one handers, and I would know, I've got one. You don't play tennis, do you? I don't think you qualify to talk about the subject.

I would say Mcenroes groundstrokes, but seeing as he was always at the net, it doesn't really matter.
 
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DJG

Semi-Pro
Oh come on, it's clear you say that ONLY because you dislike these two.
The thread asks for the number one(s) with the worst.

I'm pretty sure Fed's backhand is much much better than the backhands of people like Roddick, among others =.=

100% agreed. Sampras and Federer definately does not qualify. I have to agree on the "worst" with what has been posted before:

Backhand - Moya
Forehand - Edberg

The quip about McEnroe made me smile ;)
 

miyagi

Professional
What IDIOT would say Federer and Sampras had terrible backshands? PLEASE!!! Their back hands may not of been the very best but they were certainly above average.

To be a multiple Slam winner on 3 surfaces it would have to be...

Some people are so blinded by hate that they can't be taken seriously

loser!!

Oh BTW Ithink Roddicks back hand is particularly weak and one dimensional.
 

JeMar

Legend
Nadal's backhand was pretty weak when he was starting out, but I'd say it's one of the better ones out there today, especially on passing shots.
 

GameSampras

Banned
It isn't better than Roger's I'm afraid. Pete hasn't had Nadal pounding high deep forehands at it. Are you going on the exhibitions and senior tour? For me, Federer is far stronger on both wings from the baseline.

Can I just ask how the racket affected it in any way? He could still pound his serves and forehands. His backhand just wasn't a particularly strong shot. Deal with it.

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I'm sorry, the Federer backhand is a great stroke. Sure, it breaks down when he has to play deep balls over his hand, this is tough for any one-hander. This is the same reason that ten year olds who have just started the game
can beat players far better than them. High balls are horrible to play against, especially for one handers, and I would know, I've got one. You don't play tennis, do you? I don't think you qualify to talk about the subject.\

I would say Mcenroes groundstrokes, but seeing as he was always at the net, it doesn't really matter.


Alot of guys today are attacking Fed's BH not just Nadal.. Look at how Murray attacked and pounded the BH of Roger's.
 

GameSampras

Banned
No, just no. This is delusional.

Not delusional at all.. You obviously havent seen any Sampras' exos these past 1-2 years. His BH is looking great now that he has a legit racket to play with.. This just shows that he was playing with garbage, small framed racket his whole career.
 

JeMar

Legend
It's delusional to think that he would not have changed it while he was in his prime if he would've obtained a benefit from the change. Do you really think he would've stayed with the old frame if he knew he would be able to hit his backhand as well as you claim he's hitting it now if he'd switched to a "legit" frame? Moreover, Federer's spent a large portion of his career playing with a modified version of the same Pro Staff Sampras used. As my tennis coach used to say, "Don't blame the racquet for your [in this case relatively] bad technique."

I love Sampras and have seen most of this exhibitions over the last couple of years. His backhand was not and is not as technically sound as Federer's, nor is it as versatile.
 
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matchmaker

Hall of Fame
Edberg's FH.
Rafter's BH.
Mc Enroe's groundies.
Nadal's serve.

Sampras' and Federer's backhand are not the greatest ever, but then again not really weak shots either.

Courier's and Moya's backhands were not terrible but especially Courier could hit some great passings with it.

But the one shot of a number one that wins would be:

Steffi Graf's topspin backhand, good for about 20 GS victories.
 

JeMar

Legend
I remember reading it was actually a very good shot in practice, but she never grew comfortable using it during a match. Your point still stands, though.
 

JeMar

Legend
Nadal certainly has the steadier of the two, but Federer's is more explosive and has much more variety.
 
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Nadal_Freak

Banned
You don't win the French Open 4 times in a row with a weak backhand. The surface exploits those that are slightly weak from the baseline. Fed relies a ton on his serve and the clay takes a lot of that away. Thus, it shows how weak his backhand is.
 

Alexio92

Professional
You don't win the French Open 4 times in a row with a weak backhand. The surface exploits those that are slightly weak from the baseline. Fed relies a ton on his serve and the clay takes a lot of that away. Thus, it shows how weak his backhand is.

You don't win the US open 5 times in a row with a weak backhand. The surface exploits those that are slightly weak from the baseline. Nadal relies a ton on his movement and the hard court takes a lot of that away. Thus, it shows how weak his backhand is.
 

Nadal_Freak

Banned
You don't win the US open 5 times in a row with a weak backhand. The surface exploits those that are slightly weak from the baseline. Nadal relies a ton on his movement and the hard court takes a lot of that away. Thus, it shows how weak his backhand is.
Wrong. The serve plays a big part on faster surfaces. Thus you don't have to win most of the baseline battles as the serve can cover it up. Just ask Roddick about that. lol
 

oneguy21

Banned
You don't win the French Open 4 times in a row with a weak backhand. The surface exploits those that are slightly weak from the baseline. Fed relies a ton on his serve and the clay takes a lot of that away. Thus, it shows how weak his backhand is.

Nadal's backhand is not weak at all, but neither is Fed's. It may be less effective on clay courts, but on hc, it really is a weapon.
 

JohnS

Semi-Pro
I'd rather have Federer's backhand than Nadal's serve. At least the former is a very good shot, while the later is the worst serve in the #1 ranking history.


worse than agassi's serve? I'd rather have Nadal's lefty serve.
 
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