World 109 beats Nadal in pre-French Open match

Bloodshed

Bloodshed

Professional
redfred said:
dang man that sucks.thats probably gonna be playin mind games w/him for the whole french open.he better not lose in the first round to some nobody.
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Playing mind games with Nadal? Nadal won't take this loss personnally at all. I mean afterall it's an exo match and he probably didn't even care to begin with and tried shots he normally wouldn't make. But kudos to the opponent beating him though.

Nadal at RG will do his typical routine and beat opponents in straights and giving bredsticks/bagel. However he doesn't seem as strong as last year so therefore he could lose a set, maybe 2 at most.
 
IvanAndreevich

IvanAndreevich

Legend
Bloodshed said:
Playing mind games with Nadal? Nadal won't take this loss personnally at all. I mean afterall it's an exo match and he probably didn't even care to begin with and tried shots he normally wouldn't make. But kudos to the opponent beating him though.

Nadal at RG will do his typical routine and beat opponents in straights and giving bredsticks/bagel. However he doesn't seem as strong as last year so therefore he could lose a set, maybe 2 at most.
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Are you a Nadal fan? Every time he steps onto the court he takes it seriously. Match, practice, exo - every time.
 
veroniquem

veroniquem

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First this was not a match, it was an "exhibition" set. (It's for a charity, different players all come to play 1 set on the main courts.) Second it was raining during Nadal's set (it rained for about an hour yesterday and unfortunately it happened during that set). The court was slippery and Nadal didn't want to take any chance. End of story.
 
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gogeta087

Rookie
IvanAndreevich said:
Are you a Nadal fan? Every time he steps onto the court he takes it seriously. Match, practice, exo - every time.
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Hey may take it seriously, but a few days before a grand slam against someone he doesn't need to prove anything against? There is no way he is going 100%, theres no need to take that risk. I don't buy any of the "He's just tired" or "Aftereffects of Madrid" theories, it just happens. One player had a lot to prove, one just needed to prevent injury and keep his form.
 
drakulie

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
veroniquem said:
First this was not a match, it was an "exhibition" set. (It's for a charity, different players all come to play 1 set on the main courts.) Second it was raining during Nadal's set (it rained for about an hour yesterday and unfortunately it happened during that set). The court was slippery and Nadal didn't want to take any chance. End of story.
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LMAO!!! It rained during "Nadal's set"??? The court was "slippery"??? I suppose it was only "slippery" where Nadal was planting his feet. :roll:

My god the excuses are getting more and more pathetic.
 
Docalex007

Docalex007

Hall of Fame
Bud said:
As others have mentioned... this tournament should be directly after Miami. It would make a nice transition from hard court to clay court.
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I do agree with this. Madrid would be well placed to transition most definitely.
 
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T. H. Park

Professional
IvanAndreevich said:
Every time he steps onto the court he takes it seriously. Match, practice, exo - every time.
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Of course. Also, you do NOT want to lose ANY set before leading into a GS like RG. If it even plays a small role in your head, which it will (although very small), others will gain confidence. That is the most important part of tennis. Confidence. Others have gained confidence on Federer and hence they are winning against him. Of course people get better/worse, but there is no way one wants to lose a set just before a GS. Having said that, I don't think it will affect Nadal "much," it is still better to have won it easily.
 
Docalex007

Docalex007

Hall of Fame
veroniquem said:
First this was not a match, it was an "exhibition" set. (It's for a charity, different players all come to play 1 set on the main courts.) Second it was raining during Nadal's set (it rained for about an hour yesterday and unfortunately it happened during that set). The court was slippery and Nadal didn't want to take any chance. End of story.
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Did you really only join the forum here back in Jan. 2008? I swear you've been around longer than that?
 
IvanAndreevich

IvanAndreevich

Legend
arnz said:
So what are you trying to say? Nadal is gonna lose in the French Open? Care to make a wager with me?
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What I am saying is that Nadal isn't in as godly form as he was last year. Otherwise he would probably beat the guy 6-1 or 6-2 without even trying that much.
 
malakas

malakas

Banned
It's nothing to be taken so serious.Nadal will be GS champ once again and this RG will be even more boring than the last one.Don't worry fanboys.
 
IvanAndreevich

IvanAndreevich

Legend
vtmike said:
Dabul was belting the ball pretty hard! and the FO crowd does not seem to like Rafa...
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They usually pull for the underdog. It's funny, Dabul is only 170 cm tall (5' 7").

Nadal's backhand has been looking very very edgy for the last couple of months.
 
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gogeta087

Rookie
I wasn't giving Dabul enough credit in my post. Though I still don't doubt rafa not giving it 100%, he certainly earned the win. Still doubt it will mean much, however :\
 
drakulie

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
^^did you guys notice how it was only raining and slippery on Nadal's side of the court??? <<<strange>>>
 
DarthMaul

DarthMaul

Professional
veroniquem said:
Yes he will never recover from such a humiliating loss. It's quite clear Rafa has forgotten the first thing about how to play on clay. After Federer proving in Madrid that it actually took no special effort to beat Nadal on clay, the # 109 took the lead and proceeded to crush the last remnant of Rafa's confidence on clay. Sadly the last clay match win by King Rafa may well be behind us. It remains to be seen if distressed Nadal will ever make it past a first round again. His once glorious prospects are looking glum today as the whole world is shaking their head in disbelief.
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Lol. You are the biggest Nadal hater, no?
 
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T. H. Park

Professional
DarthMaul said:
Nadal clearly wasn't trying. It will be different in real matches to come.
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I agree that he wasn't maybe at the top of his form, but I would not go as far as saying "not trying." Can you imagine Nadal wanting to lose a set on the RG grounds on the eve of this GS? The results are, with all due respect, a tad bit embarrassing. Will this change much? Don't think so. But still one would much rather cream a guy like that and serve a breadstick, but certainly losing should NOT have been an option for Rafa and am sure he was not expecting this either.
 
akv89

akv89

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jman

jman

Semi-Pro
Nadal only lost a set, which he has done before in the past. I still think he would be favourite in a best-of-five match. Although embarrising for him, I don't think it will affect his chances of defending his crown.
 
Sentinel

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
veroniquem said:
Yes he will never recover from such a humiliating loss. It's quite clear Rafa has forgotten the first thing about how to play on clay. After Federer proving in Madrid that it actually took no special effort to beat Nadal on clay, the # 109 took the lead and proceeded to crush the last remnant of Rafa's confidence on clay. Sadly the last clay match win by King Rafa may well be behind us. It remains to be seen if distressed Nadal will ever make it past a first round again. His once glorious prospects are looking glum today as the whole world is shaking their head in disbelief.
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rotfl, that may be your funniest post ever. Or your first attempt at humor :)


Underhand said:
Yeah, probably he passed out from the increased air pressure.
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lol :0
 
Sentinel

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
jman said:
Nadal only lost a set, which he has done before in the past. I still think he would be favourite in a best-of-five match. Although embarrising for him, I don't think it will affect his chances of defending his crown.
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That's how the downfall usually starts.

You lose a match here, a set there to some nobody no one ever heard of, and suddenly you are losing matches all over the place. Next thing you know you can't moonball even if your life depended on it !

I am seeing the R1 with Daniels. Lets see if Nadal scrapes through.
 
TheTruth

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Sentinel said:
No. we must wait for the official exc er version from Nadal_freak or TheTruth.

Seriously, he probably was just getting used to the low altitude clay after losing his touch at madrid.
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I don't make excuses, Sentinel, but I do try to use common sense. Why do you guys continually start insulting threads like this without provacation? I don't get that.
 
Sentinel

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
the_truth. cmon this has been more of a joke thread from the start. Look, its not even a proper match, just some practice thingie with a 109 ranker. We were just having fun. chill !
 
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Pirao

Semi-Pro
Sentinel said:
the_truth. cmon this has been more of a joke thread from the start. Look, its not even a proper match, just some practice thingie with a 109 ranker. We were just having fun. chill !
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Funny how most of this "joke" threads are about Nadal, and when you make something similar about Fed you get flamed into oblivion, right?
 
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ChanceEncounter

Professional
Pirao said:
Funny how most of this "joke" threads are about Nadal, and when you make something similar about Fed you get flamed into oblivion, right?
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Are you serious? My observation over the last few months is that there are far more pro-Nadal threads than pro-Fed threads, and far more anti-Fed threads than anti-Nadal. I could probably statistically sample it for you if you wanted, but even then the Nadal fans would probably say it's biased. Because only they know the truth; it doesn't come from empirical evidence or statistical data.

Meanwhile, it's like they suspect only Nadal to have been affected by the altitude, the rain, the clay, the ball girls, the wind, and background music, the crowd, and the water bottles.
 
Sentinel

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Pirao said:
Funny how most of this "joke" threads are about Nadal, and when you make something similar about Fed you get flamed into oblivion, right?
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1. When Fed was number one, all the criticism went his way and some of it was classless.

2. Now its going Nadal's way: some of it is again classless (like the constant butt jokes) and some of it like this (or the draw jokes) is just having some fun.

Anyway, i am only asking the guy to not take it seriously. anything wrong in that.
 
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Pirao

Semi-Pro
ChanceEncounter said:
Are you serious? My observation over the last few months is that there are far more pro-Nadal threads than pro-Fed threads, and far more anti-Fed threads than anti-Nadal. I could probably statistically sample it for you if you wanted, but even then the Nadal fans would probably say it's biased. Because only they know the truth; it doesn't come from empirical evidence or statistical data.

Meanwhile, it's like they suspect only Nadal to have been affected by the altitude, the rain, the clay, the ball girls, the wind, and background music, the crowd, and the water bottles.
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I want, please do.
 
nfor304

nfor304

Banned
veroniquem said:
Rain makes it dangerous. Have you ever seen a clay match?
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Yes. Yes I have. Ive seen them play in rain many, many times and ive seen them hose the court down between sets. Have you ever seen a clay match? Or do you just watch Nadals matches with the view zoomed in on his bulging biceps
 
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EtePras

Banned
slice bh compliment said:
Exactly. Practice set with people in teh stands, basically. Rafa probably had hit the gym, stretched and had a hit already. Topped it off, kept things close and didn't go for the extra gear.

It is funny how people read way into exos and practice matches.

I never cracked the top 400 and a guy I beat twice in Satellites would practice with the great Pete Sampras in the early to mid 90s (right before Pete moved to LA). He would win practice sets against Pete about 50 to 60% of the time. Seriously.

He and Pete once played a 'real match' in practice. It was for a sandwich at the snack bar. Pete won 6-2, 6-2 in about an hour.

I feel Rafa will still routine guys until at least the quarters.
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The 90's era was full of clowns who were too scared to play against Sampras, as you can see from this post. When the grand slams are dominated by a player equal to worse than the world #400 at the time, that says a lot about how weak that era was. I think I could win slams in that era if I showed up dressed up as Sampras.
 
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