Richie Rich
Legend
just don't respond to this guy. just posting crap to pull your guys' chain
Who thinks Fed would play better with a 95" racquet?
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volleynets
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT A JOKE!
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH DO YOU THINK WE EVEN LISTEN TO YOU ANYMORE? EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS WAY WRONG AND OFF. You said Monfils would easily take Fed. FED STRAIGHT SETTED HIM! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA KOA YOU ARE SO FUNNY!
I GET IT! YOU MUST ALWAYS SAY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT IS TRUE SO BP, VS BABOLAT, AND THE OTHER POSTERS DID CONVINCE YOU FEDERER NEVER USED A 95!!!!
YOU THINK FEDERER's STATEMENT THAT HE NEVER USED MORE THAN A 95 IS AN OPINION! YOU ARE AN IDIOT! WHY WOULD HE SHANK A LOT OF BALLS WITH A 95 AND GO TO A SMALLER HEADSIZE! YOU ARE TRULY DELUSIONAL AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TENNIS! HAHA
HERES WHAT FEDERER SAID IDIOT SINCE YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION OR CREDIBILITY.
Let me break it down for you sentence by sentence.
1. HE WENT FROM 85 TO 90.
2. HE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS SHANKING A LOT WITH HIS RACKET(85) WHICH IS WHY HE WENT FROM AN 85 TO 90.
THERE YOU GO DIPSTICK AND I KNOW YOU STILL WONT BELIEVE ME BUT ITS OKAY YOU ARE A JOKE!!!!!
volleynets
Hall of Fame
I know I get it by now. There is nobody this delusional alive. WE are just feeding him cookies like a troll.
I meanhe did call Federer's statement about going from 85-90 and never a higher headsize an opinion. Someone please take the internet away from him.
HE is just kidding guys! would probably beat him 6-0 6-0 with my left.
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the green god
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drakulie, off topic, but when did your great friend nobadmojo leave the boards.
Nope, no maybe about it. The people who painted it (and the hundreds of other like it that they make for him and other players) absolutely know. And they say paintjob. They've said it directly to me, and dozens of other people. You still haven't addressed that part. You prefer to take the opinion of the few random recreational players who happen to agree with your point, thus proving everything everyone but you has said on the thread. You lose.
Ah, but the failing of your post is that you give logic backed up by facts. And these clearly are useless. Because after all, no one ever knows anything apparently.
Yes, and then they use the magic stick from Men In Black to erase their memories of ever having made the frames, so that no one actually knows what's in them. That's a really important part of this: that no one can actually know anything about it.
Just in case anyone needed confirmation what level of intellect we were dealing with here, we need only refer to the grammar/syntax and spelling of this post, which appears verbatim. I'm pretty sure it's English of some kind.
BTW, KOA, you never answered the various posters who asked your age range and playing/experience level. Then again, these would be facts, and therefore are things that no one really knows.
the Town Sherif
Semi-Pro
impersonating KOA
...cookie...cookie....I want cookie.....
...cookie...cookie....I want cookie.....
Rabbit
G.O.A.T.
And how do you know then that no one knows if no one knows for sure that anything is known?
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Let see what we have learned about King of Aces from this thread.
1. KOA can't tell the difference between the Pro Staff 85, Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95, and the Tour 90.
Here is Roger with the Pro Staff Tour 90 and the paint job of the Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95. You will notice grooves at the ends of the throat bridge, a 16x19 string pattern and box beam construction. That is a Pro Staff Tour 90 before it was released to the public.
2. KOA thinks that the people at Priority 1 do not know anything about Federer's racquet.
3. After demanding a quote from Federer himself:
Stick Shift: Time for Federer to rethink his racquet?
By Miguel Seabra
At the Australian Open, I asked him about whether he would consider making a switch. The question elicited a negative response, even though he spoke positively about his earlier change.
“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.
“Funny, I wanted to play with the racquet of Sampras, now Sampras is playing with the racquet of me,” Federer smiled. “Kind of weird... he changed to mine now.”
http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804
KOA then finally reads the above quote from Federer. His response is Federer did not express himself properly and really meant to say he switched from 95 to 90.
Apparently KOA does not understand the English language very well or has a very bad reading comprehension problem.
4. KOA thinks Federer won the 2003 Wimbledon with a 95.
1. KOA can't tell the difference between the Pro Staff 85, Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95, and the Tour 90.
It is very easy they have two different molds and string patterns.
Here is Roger with the Pro Staff Tour 90 and the paint job of the Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95. You will notice grooves at the ends of the throat bridge, a 16x19 string pattern and box beam construction. That is a Pro Staff Tour 90 before it was released to the public.
2. KOA thinks that the people at Priority 1 do not know anything about Federer's racquet.
3. After demanding a quote from Federer himself:
Stick Shift: Time for Federer to rethink his racquet?
By Miguel Seabra
At the Australian Open, I asked him about whether he would consider making a switch. The question elicited a negative response, even though he spoke positively about his earlier change.
“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.
“Funny, I wanted to play with the racquet of Sampras, now Sampras is playing with the racquet of me,” Federer smiled. “Kind of weird... he changed to mine now.”
http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804
KOA then finally reads the above quote from Federer. His response is Federer did not express himself properly and really meant to say he switched from 95 to 90.
that doesnt make sense...how does one change from an 85 to a 90 and then change to a 90???? I believe that was a typo....what he may have meant was that he changed from an 85 to a 95 ...shanked a lot of balls and then changed to a 90.Remember....he is just a tennis pro, unlike Obama he can make some incorrect comments.
In any event even assuming arguendo that somehow that is what he meant , he still never said that his Hyper Prostaff 95 was a paintjob. He still may have dabbled with a 95 for some time. We just dont know...its truly speulation and we can debate this ad nauseum.
Apparently KOA does not understand the English language very well or has a very bad reading comprehension problem.
4. KOA thinks Federer won the 2003 Wimbledon with a 95.
The 2003 Wimbledon Championships. Federer's first grand slam win.
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King of Aces
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First of all relax dude.
Second lets just look at the quote that is now part of your Avatar (I am truly honored)....
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg."-Roger Federer
I am asking you very politely and calmly to kindly point exactly where in that quote Federer says that he never played with a 95.?
Exactly where in that quote does he say that his Hyper pro staff 95 was really a paint job?
If i have said anything here that offends anyone then I apologize. But I am not going to be bullied into stating something that is just not true.
Now if you want to say that a preponderance of the evidence indictaes that Federer was using a paint job....well that may very well be....but it is NOT a fact.
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footnote....not confuse things but.....
You left out feders full quote , which you did include at first but now have very convenintly left out. His full quote was obviusly a mistake:
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... Roger Federer
How do you switch from a 90 to a 90?? I believe the quote should have read like this:
“I switched from 85 to 95 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... This is what Roger Federer actually meant to say
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First of all relax dude.
Second lets just look at the quote that is now part of your Avatar (I am truly honored)....
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg."-Roger Federer
I am asking you very politely and calmly to kindly point exactly where in that quote Federer says that he never played with a 95.?
Exactly where in that quote does he say that his Hyper pro staff 95 was really a paint job?
If i have said anything here that offends anyone then I apologize. But I am not going to be bullied into stating something that is just not true.
Now if you want to say that a preponderance of the evidence indictaes that Federer was using a paint job....well that may very well be....but it is NOT a fact.
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footnote....not confuse things but.....
You left out feders full quote , which you did include at first but now have very convenintly left out. His full quote was obviusly a mistake:
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... Roger Federer
How do you switch from a 90 to a 90?? I believe the quote should have read like this:
“I switched from 85 to 95 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... This is what Roger Federer actually meant to say
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
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“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much."
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.-Roger Federer
What is so hard for you to understand about that quote????
I guess we simply are talking completely above your comprehension level.
P.S. You write great fiction!!!
http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804
“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much."
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.-Roger Federer
What is so hard for you to understand about that quote????
I guess we simply are talking completely above your comprehension level.
P.S. You write great fiction!!!
http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804
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King of Aces
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Now now Rabbit.....who loves you baby!!
It takes two to tango...without you there would be no me.
You complete me.
(seriously I respect you greatly......you really do know a lot....not quite as much as me but still a lot!
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King of Aces
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where did you get that from? it seems a bit out of context. may i see the full quote?
it says :I have never REALLY tried a bigger racquet".......which proves breakpoints contention that Federer merely dabbled with the 95.
We just dont know at this point. Its all speculation.
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guys.. relax... you are talking to a "bot"...
Wikipedia said:
King of Aces
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Vs babolat,
Now I know where you got the quote from!!! its from the tennis magazine article that says federer needs to change to a 95 inch racquet......THANK YOU VERY MUCH....SHEESH!!!!!
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Now I know where you got the quote from!!! its from the tennis magazine article that says federer needs to change to a 95 inch racquet......THANK YOU VERY MUCH....SHEESH!!!!!
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King of Aces
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Gorecki said:
Or in other words ....King Of Aces.
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Deleted member 21996
Guest
Or in other words ....King Of Aces.
im still waiting for you to post us one picture where Federer uses a 16x18...
may we are all just speculating...
:twisted:
A fair point. I'm clearly not qualified to answer that, either...
King of Aces
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volleynets
Hall of Fame
I would except I have no idea what you are talking about.
That is because you know nothing about the various racket models and love those cookies.
King of Aces
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volleynet said:
exactly my point!! that doesnt make sense.
Why would federer say he was shanking the ball with a 90 so he switched to a 90??
Its a typo or something. What federer had to of meant was that he switched to a 95 and was shanking the ball so he switched to a 90.
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volleynets
Hall of Fame
hahahaahha YOU idiot you quoted your own post!!!!! KOA is you! LOLOLOL I was quoting you in my sig!!!exactly my point!! that doesnt make sense.
Why would federer say he was shanking the ball with a 90 so he switched to a 90??
Its a typo or something. What federer had to of meant was that he switched to a 95 and was shanking the ball so he switched to a 90.
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And you just said Federer had to of meant AHAHAHAHAAH!!
King of Aces
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Thats funny. For some reason i saw K factoor and not KOA....LOL.
But anyway you get my point. Why would Federer say he shanked the ball with a 90 and therefore changed to a 90???
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King of Aces
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volleynets
Hall of Fame
No KOA Federer is saying that he shanked the ball with the 85 before swithing to a 90.
King of Aces
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"Players must, however, note that Federer's racquet is custom made for him by Wilson and thus will play considerably differently to an off-the-shelf (stock) kSix-One. Indeed, the make of Roger's racquet beneath its paintjob has for some time been a subject of avid and heated speculation by a large number of racquet enthusiasts on a number of tennis forums, with the general consensus being that Roger Federer is using a specially designed Prostaff 6.0 Original, altered to a 90 sq.in. head but with the same string pattern and frame composition as the 6.0. While from a distance the racquet appears to be a Tour 90, upon closer examination, the throat and custom made extended handle are clearly of the Prostaff 6.0 mould. Nonetheless, the paintjob, tapered throat flanges (not present in the Prostaff 6.0 Original 85) and extended handle ensure that the true identity of Roger Federer's racquet remains a mystery to all, perhaps including Federer himself."
King of Aces
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volleynets
Hall of Fame
This post sums up what we have been trying to tell you ****. That Federer uses a 90. You highlighted the stupid information. I highlighted what you should have read. Why do you only read the beginning and end of things. Read what it actually says for once.
volleynets
Hall of Fame
Leave him alone LPShanet
The answer to all those questions is no one knows for sure. He could tell us he is 7 and post a picture and birth certificate. But that would only be his opinion and not a fact.
King of Aces
Banned
OMG...why do you guys resort to such cheap tricks. You conveniently left out the rest of the sentece and a KEY word:
with the general consensus being that Roger Federer is using a specially designed Prostaff 6.0 Original, altered to a 90 sq.in. head but with
That is the "general Consensus"......of what federer uses now. That means its a freaking opinion but that no one is sure!! Furthermore that does NOT mean that federer never used a 95. in fact the article goes on to read that no one really knows what federer uses.....probably even federer!!!
King of Aces
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Federer never said that you are making that up. I will spoon feed you:
“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.
This means Federer has not used a bigger head-size racquet (a 95). He does not think it would help him.
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.
This paragraph says that Federer switched from a 85 to a 95. Federer says here he was shanking a lot of balls with the 85 so he then changed to the 90.
“Funny, I wanted to play with the racquet of Sampras, now Sampras is playing with the racquet of me,” Federer smiled. “Kind of weird... he changed to mine now.”
This paragraph says that Federer always played with Sampras' racquet. Now Sampras is using Federer's racquet.
I still unfortunately don't think you will still be able to understand these quotes. Because of your very poor reading abilities and extremely poor reading comprehension..
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volleynets
Hall of Fame
You think Federer is that stupid? He has rackets customized to the way he wants them . He has to know what he uses. Is this article from Wikipedia? And general consensus means noobs like you who are clueless dont know what Federer uses. There are insiders like Ron and that Fed interview which know exactly what he uses. And you are quoting Wikipedia again? Idiot.
King of Aces
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Here we go aagain. We have done this dance already.....but what the heck:
Insiders like Ron never said that Roger did not play with a 95 at one time.
Do you guys do this on purpose??
volleynets
Hall of Fame
DO YOU DO THIS ON PURPOSE?
FEDERER HIMSELF SAID HE NEVER TRIED A BIGGER HEADSIZE AND SWITCHED FROM 85 TO 90! THAT MEANS HE NEVER TRIED A BIGGER HEADSIZE THAN 90! You are the dumbest person I have ever talked to. I wonder what you are like in real life. Do the other kids at your middle school make fun of you?
King of Aces
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Federer trained secretly at my old club, TC Seeblick in Zurich last weekend.
Here is the link to the article. Sorry it is in German, but you can click on photo gallery to see Roger...
http://www.blick.ch/sport/tennis/federer-geheimtraining-in-zuerich-118517
I missed it, because I am now living in Lugano and changed clubs....
Welcome to my world.
King of Aces
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I think the thing folks need to remember here is that the K90 and the K95 are almost IDENTICAL in head size. If you don't believe me, go down to your local tennis store, pick a sample of each, and hold them up to one another.
Thjat was Rabbits point as well.
King of Aces
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Im not doing this dance again. Its like a scene out of rainman already. scroll back and you will see my response.
volleynets
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Yea except for the fact that the Frame has a completely different shape and Federer's K90 has been measured and is in fact approximately a 90(closer to 88 )
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
These photos were taken today at Rolabd Garros during his match against Monfils.
You see the K90 has a string pattern of 16x19. That is 16 main strings and 19 crosses. While the 95 headsize fram has a string pattern of 16x18.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCWILSON-K6116.html
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCWILSON-K61T90.html
You see the K90 has a string pattern of 16x19. That is 16 main strings and 19 crosses. While the 95 headsize fram has a string pattern of 16x18.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCWILSON-K6116.html
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCWILSON-K61T90.html
King of Aces
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King of Aces
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Who cares about today? That does not prove that Federer did not use a 95 back in the day.
vsbabolat said:
"Players must, however, note that Federer's racquet is custom made for him by Wilson and thus will play considerably differently to an off-the-shelf (stock) kSix-One. Indeed, the make of Roger's racquet beneath its paintjob has for some time been a subject of avid and heated speculation by a large number of racquet enthusiasts on a number of tennis forums, with the general consensus being that Roger Federer is using a specially designed Prostaff 6.0 Original, altered to a 90 sq.in. head but with the same string pattern and frame composition as the 6.0. While from a distance the racquet appears to be a Tour 90, upon closer examination, the throat and custom made extended handle are clearly of the Prostaff 6.0 mould. Nonetheless, the paintjob, tapered throat flanges (not present in the Prostaff 6.0 Original 85) and extended handle ensure that the true identity of Roger Federer's racquet remains a mystery to all, perhaps including Federer himself."
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volleynets
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That is correct.
volleynets
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Stop quoting that idiot wikipedia article. It was written most likely by someone who knows as little as you. Tennis pros are not idiots they know and choose what racket they use. They get it customized to the way they like it. You have no common sense or logic:shock::shock:
What is more ridiculous is that you keep quoting these stupid sources when confirmation from FEderer's article has been given to you. Sure he could have worded what he said better but look at the way you type. 5 years old or no?"Besides he firther adds that after that he switched to switching from an 85 he switched to a 90 was shankoing the ball and then switched to a 90"
HAH after he switched to switching from an 85 he switched to a 90 was shankoing the ball and then switched to a 90.
Dude to prove your credibility. Tell us at least your GPA or grades you get in your middle school.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Here it is out of Federer's own mouth.
“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.
This means Federer has not used a bigger head-size racquet (a 95). He does not think it would help him.
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.
This paragraph says that Federer switched from a 85 to a 95. Federer says here he was shanking a lot of balls with the 85 so he then changed to the 90.
“Funny, I wanted to play with the racquet of Sampras, now Sampras is playing with the racquet of me,” Federer smiled. “Kind of weird... he changed to mine now.”
This paragraph says that Federer always played with Sampras' racquet. Now Sampras is using Federer's racquet.
I still unfortunately don't think you will still be able to understand these quotes. Because of your very poor reading abilities and extremely poor reading comprehension
King of Aces
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Here wo go again......Its like an infinite never ending circle. Here was my answwer when you posted this the last 10 ten times:
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First of all relax dude.
Second lets just look at the quote that is now part of your Avatar (I am truly honored)....
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg."-Roger Federer
I am asking you very politely and calmly to kindly point exactly where in that quote Federer says that he never played with a 95.?
Exactly where in that quote does he say that his Hyper pro staff 95 was really a paint job?
If i have said anything here that offends anyone then I apologize. But I am not going to be bullied into stating something that is just not true.
Now if you want to say that a preponderance of the evidence indictaes that Federer was using a paint job....well that may very well be....but it is NOT a fact.
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footnote....not confuse things but.....
You left out feders full quote , which you did include at first but now have very convenintly left out. His full quote was obviusly a mistake:
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... Roger Federer
How do you switch from a 90 to a 90?? I believe the quote should have read like this:
“I switched from 85 to 95 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... This is what Roger Federer actually meant to say
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First of all relax dude.
Second lets just look at the quote that is now part of your Avatar (I am truly honored)....
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg."-Roger Federer
I am asking you very politely and calmly to kindly point exactly where in that quote Federer says that he never played with a 95.?
Exactly where in that quote does he say that his Hyper pro staff 95 was really a paint job?
If i have said anything here that offends anyone then I apologize. But I am not going to be bullied into stating something that is just not true.
Now if you want to say that a preponderance of the evidence indictaes that Federer was using a paint job....well that may very well be....but it is NOT a fact.
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footnote....not confuse things but.....
You left out feders full quote , which you did include at first but now have very convenintly left out. His full quote was obviusly a mistake:
“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... Roger Federer
How do you switch from a 90 to a 90?? I believe the quote should have read like this:
“I switched from 85 to 95 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... This is what Roger Federer actually meant to say
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