Closest Modern day equivalent to Djokovic racket

djoko4thewin · Jul 6, 2009

360 gr
371 sw
32 balance and
51 flex supposedly) here's the link: http://www.hdtennis.com/grs/pro_racq...ibas_open.html
21-22 beam
98sq head
18x20 pattern
27" standard length

m1stuhxsp4rk5 · Jul 6, 2009

mayb if u get a microgel radical mp and lead it up you can get close to his set up.

dincuss · Jul 7, 2009

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCPK-KTCR.html
This, but add lead to the head. (midplus version)

djoko4thewin · Jul 7, 2009

right, i think the lm radical or the youtek rad mp with lead comes closer. the ones you guys said dont match sw, beam, or head size well especially the pro kennex which is 93.

dincuss · Jul 7, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
right, i think the lm radical or the youtek rad mp with lead comes closer. the ones you guys said dont match sw, beam, or head size well especially the pro kennex which is 93.

I said look at the MidPlus
(Scroll Down on the TW page)

djoko4thewin · Jul 7, 2009

dincuss said:
I said look at the MidPlus
(Scroll Down on the TW page)

oh yeah sorry. gd point that does match pretty near with little lead. also surprisingly doesn't look that bad. any idea how it plays?

dincuss · Jul 7, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
oh yeah sorry. gd point that does match pretty near with little lead. also surprisingly doesn't look that bad. any idea how it plays?

No Idea.
Sorry, but many others on these boards have tried it out.

djoko4thewin · Jul 7, 2009

ok it's that the feedback bit doesn't work for me. how will i contact people who have tried it.

dincuss · Jul 7, 2009

Refer to post #11

tribunal4555 · Jul 7, 2009

Stock, the 93 is the better racquet, IMO.

Leaded up... I have no idea.

dincuss · Jul 7, 2009

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=102323
Heres the "official" thread for redondos

You'll Find lots of reviews and comparisons on the first post.

djoko4thewin · Jul 7, 2009

Thanks alot dincuss. anyone know a pj pro for a speed pro on it lol? jks

djoko4thewin · Jul 7, 2009

it's hard for me to demo the prokennex as it isnt sold everywhere in the UK. seems like it's not very popular or something. which is the next best? the lm radical or youtek rad mp?

dincuss · Jul 7, 2009

LM Rad, but of course it will need lead, and the flex is going to be an issue. Djokovic probably requested a personal flex pattern.

dincuss · Jul 7, 2009

Actually the Youtek is more flexible (59) so it might be a better choice.

djoko4thewin · Jul 7, 2009

ok thx so going with the youtek, where would you recommend lead? and how much?

PED · Jul 7, 2009

Have you demo'ed the youtek? You might want to give a try before buying as it's a much less crisper feel than your Wilson. I think the 51 flex is the thing that would be hard to duplicate. I've seen posts on here before from people who have tried Berdych's Dunlop which has a similar low flex rating and many didn't care for the feel at all-it would be quite low powered for one thing. I understand your desire to get something similar to Novak's but remember that a 371 SW can be used effectively by very few people.

Conquistador · Jul 7, 2009

TT Warrior MP...paintjob, weight, spin, and maneuverability seem to be the same.

djoko4thewin · Jul 7, 2009

ok so would you suggest a different racket to be closer to djokos with more crisp. or if this youtek was nice, then what lead setup would u recommend?

PED · Jul 8, 2009

Regarding the lead, you just need to experiment and see what you feel comfortable with. After playing around with setups for the last two years, I like an SW of 329 because it can put some hurt on the ball and I can still really whip it through the strike zone. There really is no right or wrong answer to setup. The guy who hits the heaviest ball I know and was a former top 10 junior plays with a stick with an sw of 307-it's all about racquet head speed.

vsbabolat · Jul 8, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
ok so would you suggest a different racket to be closer to djokos with more crisp. or if this youtek was nice, then what lead setup would u recommend?

You are going to need a digital scale, a balance board, and a way to measure the swingweight.

Here is how to measure the swingweight. http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/howto_swingweight.html

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/contents.html

djoko4thewin · Jul 8, 2009

ok thanks vs babolat. if i know the sw and mass of the rad mp already from tw then would you know how much would need to go where to get the specs of djokovic.(360gr 371sw)

vsbabolat · Jul 8, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
ok thanks vs babolat. if i know the sw and mass of the rad mp already from tw then would you know how much would need to go where to get the specs of djokovic.(360gr 371sw)

Use the TW University Customization tool. It will tell where and how much weight to add.
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/customization.html

djoko4thewin · Jul 8, 2009

vsbabolat said:
Use the TW University Customization tool. It will tell where and how much weight to add.
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/customization.html

great help, thanks. it's 48gr at 16.1inches on racket to match but i'm not sure about the balance, the youtek is 2pts head light so i'm not sure what i want at end, it comes out with 3.89inch balance.

jeez that's alot of lead. like 48inch worth if babolat tape as it's 1inch per gram so 24inch on each side of 16.1inch up racket. so like 4 layers of 4inch tape on each side of racket at 16.1inches...wow that's alot no?

djoko4thewin · Jul 8, 2009

one thing, anyone know what djokovic's balance would be? apparently 32 balance but what is youteks?

djoko4thewin · Jul 20, 2009

bump, the speed MP 18x20?

djoko4thewin · Jul 21, 2009

someone help me out on the lead issue to match djokos please? my figures seem messed up.

djoko4thewin · Jul 21, 2009

lead up yt rad mp or wait for yt prestige??

dincuss · Jul 21, 2009

I did all the math in the racquet customizer,
and it came out

If you put 48 grams at locations 8'oclock and 4 'oclock it would match it fairly close.

Cup8489 · Jul 21, 2009

dincuss said:
I did all the math in the racquet customizer,
and it came out

If you put 48 grams at locations 8'oclock and 4 'oclock it would match it fairly close.

whoo..thats alot of lead.

have fun with it, regardless (ouch!)

travlerajm · Jul 21, 2009

If you add the lead at 4 and 8, it won't play anything like Djokovic's frame. You want all the lead in the upper half of the hoop to get the right feel.

Your best bet is the POG LB, cut down to 27". It is light enough in the head and in the handle to allow you to match any pro setup. And it's quite flexible.

djoko4thewin · Jul 22, 2009

dincuss said:
I did all the math in the racquet customizer,
and it came out

If you put 48 grams at locations 8'oclock and 4 'oclock it would match it fairly close.

Thanks alot. but other don't agree lol, so exactly where on the racket and how much, like 24gr on 8 and 24 on 4? like how much inches length you think and where on the racket like how far up, when i did it it said 16.1inch up,

SO with babolat tape it's 4 layers of 4 inch tape at 8 and 4 oclock(16.1inch up)(checked it from ur calculations). so do u think that would affect the racket in a bad way? and or is 4inch length too small?.

travlerajm said:
If you add the lead at 4 and 8, it won't play anything like Djokovic's frame. You want all the lead in the upper half of the hoop to get the right feel.

Your best bet is the POG LB, cut down to 27". It is light enough in the head and in the handle to allow you to match any pro setup. And it's quite flexible.

sorry if im stupid, but what is POG LB? a prince? racket but noone has said this one before as a option and to cut it down doesn't sound easy.

Cup8489 said:
whoo..thats alot of lead.

have fun with it, regardless (ouch!)

lol, yeah do u think that if you can handle that sorta lead then it's fine or would the racket not function how it should with so much lead lol.

djoko4thewin · Jul 23, 2009

oh also, he uses a leather grip, should i go for a leather(which type?) then add lead so i dont have to add as much lead.

dincuss · Jul 23, 2009

The new Head leather tour is one of my favorites. not too thick, not too thin, not too tacky and very firm.

But Ive heard nothing but great stuff about the TW leather.

djoko4thewin · Jul 23, 2009

right, how much does the head leather one weigh, because that would change the weight of it completly and with 1 overgrip on, so the lead arrangement would be different.

djoko4thewin · Jul 24, 2009

also wondering djokovic has a code in the throat of the racket, would this help to identify the real racket?

djoko4thewin · Jul 24, 2009

djoko4thewin · Jul 30, 2009

bump. thx dincuss for your help. iv demoed the yt rad mp and it is quite good but the weight is a serious issue although it is fairly stable considering. i will ask around for the prokennex heritage type c redondo to see if i can get my hands on one and tbh that is the most nearest to djokos and as u said it only needs some lead in the head so not much customization needs to be done. if so how much lead in the head? thanks.

djoko4thewin · Aug 1, 2009

so please some help!!....if redondo then how much lead in the head? obivously not much as it's like 343g strung....

OR yt rad mp with head leather, so 8-10gr more so 320gr strung, so then 40gr to add but the balance would change so how do i know where to add lead??

Thanks!!

dincuss · Aug 1, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
so please some help!!....if redondo then how much lead in the head? obivously not much as it's like 343g strung....

OR yt rad mp with head leather, so 8-10gr more so 320gr strung, so then 40gr to add but the balance would change so how do i know where to add lead??

Thanks!!

One sec let me calculate

dincuss · Aug 1, 2009

17grams on the top half of the hoop about

so about 17 grams from 10oclock to 2oclock

RFtennis · Aug 1, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
lead up yt rad mp or wait for yt prestige??

prestige might be as heavy but the head it way smaller so its not gonna feel the same.

djoko4thewin · Aug 1, 2009

dincuss said:
17grams on the top half of the hoop about

so about 17 grams from 10oclock to 2oclock

Thanks dude!! that's the prokennex weight sorted but i won't use the leather...i use a overgrip on it like on my KBT and like djoko so weight will differ so i guess it'll be like 12gr on the hoop??

but for the YOUTEK rad MP which is more likely by the way as i said im struggling to get hold of one.

SO...if head leather on rad mp and one overgrip will the weight be similiar? im rly confused please help me calculate weight and balance from there. Thanks.

RFtennis said:
prestige might be as heavy but the head it way smaller so its not gonna feel the same.

yeah true but i could try the prestige MP which would be similiar, basically wait for that as its the same but just more weight...or customize the rad mp myself.

dincuss · Aug 1, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
Thanks dude!! that's the prokennex weight sorted but i won't use the leather...i use a overgrip on it like on my KBT and like djoko so weight will differ so i guess it'll be like 12gr on the hoop??

but for the YOUTEK rad MP which is more likely by the way as i said im struggling to get hold of one.

SO...if head leather on rad mp and one overgrip will the weight be similiar? im rly confused please help me calculate weight and balance from there. Thanks.

No problem,
But actually I think thats with a normal synthetic, since the PK Redondo doesnt come with leather, even though its shown in the picture.

djoko4thewin · Aug 2, 2009

dincuss said:
No problem,
But actually I think thats with a normal synthetic, since the PK Redondo doesnt come with leather, even though its shown in the picture.

OH, ok thanks, well i prefer a leather then 1 overgrip as i know the right gripsize for that and synthetic can be different thickness. but anyhow if the yt had head leather as i said then that would be like 315gr strung weight so 45gr to go. so would the balance be the same as before? 6 and 4 oclock or>?

djoko4thewin · Aug 5, 2009

help please...also whats the K95 like compared to these? plus the pic on the last page shows djokos racket with a code in the inside of the throat can that help us find what is acctually under the PJ?

djoko4thewin · Aug 16, 2009

but anyhow if the yt had head leather as i said then that would be like 315gr strung weight so 45gr to go. so would the balance be the same as before? 6 and 4 oclock or>?

also whats the K95 like compared to these? plus the pic on the last page shows djokos racket with a code in the inside of the throat can that help us find what is acctually under the PJ?

vsbabolat · Aug 16, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
but anyhow if the yt had head leather as i said then that would be like 315gr strung weight so 45gr to go. so would the balance be the same as before? 6 and 4 oclock or>?

also whats the K95 like compared to these? plus the pic on the last page shows djokos racket with a code in the inside of the throat can that help us find what is acctually under the PJ?

This Photo?

djoko4thewin said:

It says "Novak" inside the throat.

shaysrebelII · Aug 16, 2009

djoko4thewin said:
360 gr
371 sw
32 balance and
51 flex supposedly) here's the link: http://www.hdtennis.com/grs/pro_racq...ibas_open.html
21-22 beam
98sq head
18x20 pattern
27" standard length

yeah here's the tough part, and I've got no idea...good luck tho!

djoko4thewin · Aug 17, 2009

thanks anyway...anyone else..i guess the flex can be forgotten as thats not possible.

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