Cortex on Nadal's Racquet?!

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KJSupra70

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The racket was "used" by Nadal? There's no way a real used racket could look that clean after a tournament at pro level. :???:

MAYBE the autograph is real, but as far as I know, that could be fake too.
 

zidane339

Hall of Fame
The racket was "used" by Nadal? There's no way a real used racket could look that clean after a tournament at pro level. :???:

MAYBE the autograph is real, but as far as I know, that could be fake too.

Its been pretty publicized though that Nadal gave that to Hewitt. So I would think at least the signaiture is real.
 

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
well the signature looks real. but nadal doesnt usually place the rubber piece over his finishing tape on his grips (he just uses the finishing tape, you can see the babolat label on it)

and those strings don't look like duralast, theyre almost completely opaque, rather than transparent.

plus that grip is clean as a whistle, and VS overgrips get dirty in almost no time at all.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
KJ
A racquet used at Wimbledon could in fact look immaculate....grass doesn't cause scratches. Grass stains wipe off.
 

pmacino

Semi-Pro
FWIW...I have professional color calibrated displays, and I can see yellowing on the grip bevels. It doesn't look like a brand new grip to me.
 

Sup2Dresq

Hall of Fame
Could be one of the cortex racquets Babolat had him test. Thrown in a racquet bag. Taken out at wimby. Hit once, give to charity.

Or .... It's uncle Toni's ....LOL. It's still a Nadal racquet. LOL. sucka!!!
 

msc886

Professional
Nadal may have given it to him but so far it doesn't seem like the one he actually uses. The buyer is dooped.
 
I've been reading a lot about Nadal using an APD painted as APDC, but found no proof of it. I searched the threads and nothing....maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. Could someone please, show me where to find that proof. Thanks
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I've been reading a lot about Nadal using an APD painted as APDC, but found no proof of it. I searched the threads and nothing....maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. Could someone please, show me where to find that proof. Thanks

Here is your proof. http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=1426030#post1426030
Hi guys, I touched Nadal's racquet and I can confirm that there is no cortex system. Today he was practicing in Rome with Gonzo.
25 kg tension.

The cortex is just painted, here the pics:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6cpkg8m

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=67oc46r

Ciao,
Fede

Here are Fede's Photos posted up.
6cpkg8m.jpg

67oc46r.jpg




Thank You Fede for those great Photos!:-D

No Cortex.
 

PopWar

Rookie
So that guy is spending $12,000 on a "fake" Nadal racquet/real cortex APDC
I sure that the signature is not worth like $11,815
But i guess its all for a good cause
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
This might sound exceptionally stupid, but I was just thinking about this, because I have never gotten a real answer--who does paintjobs on pros' racquets? Are there professional painters hired by racquet manufactuers just to paint their sponsered pros' racquets? Any info would be much appreciated.

Sorry to hijack, Zidane.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
^^^^^
The racquets have the Cosmetics (Paint Job) put on at the Factory. Just like what is done to the consumer racquets.
 

ChuDat

Professional
The best way is to ask Nadal himself haha. I hope theres at typo in the price and that its actually $105.00
 

Raiha

Rookie
i remember the us open commentators saying that brad gilbert actually got one of nadal's wimbledon rackets. I'd assume that one was genuine, or maybe it was just nadal trying to convince everyone that he uses cortex. Oh well, if its for a good cause i guess i don't mind.
 

rubberduckies

Professional
Maybe Nadal did use this at Wimbledon. He probably felt that using his real racquet wouldn't be fair to Roger after what happened at the French, so he went to the store to by some APDC's strung with stock strings. He left the dampener off to further level the playing field between himself and Roger. His hubris almost got the better of him, but in the end his talent prevailed. Notice how the strings on this racquet aren't worn at all - almost like they've never been used. That shows how easy Rafa was taking it on Roger. :)

So go ahead and make a bid to win that racquet. Rest assured that it's the genuine article and not just some cheap piece of crap with his signature on it.
 

rubberduckies

Professional
Seriously though, if I paid thousands of dollars for that to later find out the truth, I would be so pissed off. Wouldn't the buyer be able to claim fraud on the part of the auction?
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
the racket also does not have the custom damp Rafa uses

Good point, although, believe it or not, there have even been theories about Rafa using a Sampras "O" with the Babolat stripes and word embedded on, but that was just at my club, no gossip about that yet on these boards. But if that were to be true, which, again, it probably isn't, that would just be taking the endorsment thing a bit too far. :roll:
 

Mdubb23

Hall of Fame
Seriously though, if I paid thousands of dollars for that to later find out the truth, I would be so pissed off. Wouldn't the buyer be able to claim fraud on the part of the auction?

I think so. I'd be interested on what Rafa would say about that. He'd probably bite it, then get thirty photo shoots while slobbering all over it, then claim the price was fair.
 

Blade0324

Hall of Fame
He probably did hit with it. They gave him a stock APDC with Pro Hurricane Tour strings he hit with it about 10 balls on the practice court and then they took it away to use for this sham of an auction. Too bad someone got so ripped off.
 
2 things. one, i remember the above close up picture being on here some time ago, nadal could have switched since. on the other hand, the grip size on the auction one looks 2 big, bet thats not a 2
 

MrBen

Rookie
Apd

I'm under the impression that Nadal's racket is just the APD without the cortex, but just has the paint job.
 

MrBen

Rookie
His racquet does not have the cortex because he specifically told Babolat that he did not want it. Still, the racquet looks like the APD w/ Cortex...
 

martini1

Hall of Fame
The seller only got a 1 rating??

The listing also doesn't look that professional. Ummm. If this is for a good course why don't they put it on bigger sites for international bidders?

After seeing the Rafa pj'd rackets I seriously doubt he would use the APDC in wimbledon of all matches. He would probably sign a whole bunch stock racket per contract agreement with babo or other sponsors as give aways for theirs VIPs. I suspect this is one of those even if it is real at the first place.
 

lawlitssoo1n

Professional
LOL pro's like andy roddick and nadal don't have hte cortex system in there rackets. the cortex takes the feel off the rackets and the pro's don't like dat. so pretty much they are using hte same racket with a different paint design on it. the only reason why babolat paint their rackets with cortex system is so that they can advertise their rackets
 

LPShanet

Banned
Was checking out Hewitt's charity auction where Rafa's APD used during Wimbledon is up for grabs. If you look at the up close pic of the throat, there are ridges, indicating cortex?! I thought he used a pj of the APDC?Or could my eyes be decieveing me?

BTW its at $10500!I hope its the real thing or the buyer is duped!

http://www.eswap.com.au/auction_det...Racquet-From-Wimbledon-2008&auction_id=226913

Ah, time for more sad revelations about how the business of pro tennis marketing works. Sorry to spoil Christmas for you kids, but there is no Santa Claus. It is fairly common practice for racquet companies to send a bunch of racquets to top players (sometimes at tournaments) for signatures, that are then sent out for auctions, charity, raffles, promotions, giveaways, etc. In fact, I have such an autographed racquet from Sampras's playing days. These racquets are generally the stock/production models that they "appear to be using"...i.e. the production version of their paintjob.

Nadal does, as many have noted, use the original APD (non-cortex) in competition, but Babolat sends out APD WITH cortex for promotional uses like this. So the racquet in question may well have an authentic signature, and he may even have hit a few balls with it to legitimize the authenticity, but it certainly is not one of his actual competition frames from Wimbledon, and it clearly has real cortex on it. The stringjob is also apparently unused.

The racquet may be worth something due to the signature, etc., but anyone who thinks he's getting the actual frame Rafa won Wimbledon with is kidding himself, as long as the racquet in question is the one in the picture. Only the market can determine what it's worth, but it would appear to be worth a lot less than is being asked. Still, if the bidding is part of a legitimate charity auction, as they state, then the selling price has nothing to do with market value, and the more it goes for, the better the charity does. So as long as the auction is on the up and up in terms of it beneficiaries, I suppose a good end will come of all this. Definitely some moral mushy ground, though...(i.e. is it good to be deceptive for a good cause?)

N.B. If you look at the wording, it says it's a "Framed and Signed Rafael Nadal Racquet From Wimbledon 2008.". It doesn't actually say it's a racquet he played or won the tournament with, so they may be legally covered, although it's definitely misleading.
 

robertg06

Professional
No what he's saying is that it's not a custom custom dampener it's a normal custom dampener...that made more sense in my head....
 

Staiger

Semi-Pro
Ah, time for more sad revelations about how the business of pro tennis marketing works. Sorry to spoil Christmas for you kids, but there is no Santa Claus. It is fairly common practice for racquet companies to send a bunch of racquets to top players (sometimes at tournaments) for signatures, that are then sent out for auctions, charity, raffles, promotions, giveaways, etc. In fact, I have such an autographed racquet from Sampras's playing days. These racquets are generally the stock/production models that they "appear to be using"...i.e. the production version of their paintjob.

Nadal does, as many have noted, use the original APD (non-cortex) in competition, but Babolat sends out APD WITH cortex for promotional uses like this. So the racquet in question may well have an authentic signature, and he may even have hit a few balls with it to legitimize the authenticity, but it certainly is not one of his actual competition frames from Wimbledon, and it clearly has real cortex on it. The stringjob is also apparently unused.

The racquet may be worth something due to the signature, etc., but anyone who thinks he's getting the actual frame Rafa won Wimbledon with is kidding himself, as long as the racquet in question is the one in the picture. Only the market can determine what it's worth, but it would appear to be worth a lot less than is being asked. Still, if the bidding is part of a legitimate charity auction, as they state, then the selling price has nothing to do with market value, and the more it goes for, the better the charity does. So as long as the auction is on the up and up in terms of it beneficiaries, I suppose a good end will come of all this. Definitely some moral mushy ground, though...(i.e. is it good to be deceptive for a good cause?)

N.B. If you look at the wording, it says it's a "Framed and Signed Rafael Nadal Racquet From Wimbledon 2008.". It doesn't actually say it's a racquet he played or won the tournament with, so they may be legally covered, although it's definitely misleading.

I just hope the person who brought the racket is not going to read this thread ....LOL :twisted:
 

william7gr

Professional
The dampener is not CUSTOM you moron... it's the same damn yellow dampener they sell to the general public.

Whoever buys this racket thinking Nadal played with it in an actual match is beyond stupid...

Know what your talking about before you insult someone like that
 

iJuMpS

New User
how do we know if this is his racket? in the picture it doesnt show him in the picture..no one will ever no the truth
 

Wodz

Rookie
Maybe Nadal did use this at Wimbledon. He probably felt that using his real racquet wouldn't be fair to Roger after what happened at the French, so he went to the store to by some APDC's strung with stock strings. He left the dampener off to further level the playing field between himself and Roger. His hubris almost got the better of him, but in the end his talent prevailed. Notice how the strings on this racquet aren't worn at all - almost like they've never been used. That shows how easy Rafa was taking it on Roger. :)

So go ahead and make a bid to win that racquet. Rest assured that it's the genuine article and not just some cheap piece of crap with his signature on it.


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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