Watching the ball for as long as possible even between points etc.
... Certainly I look away to watch what my opponent is doing so I know what to expect...
Excellent post, but I'll take issue with this one point. Unless you have tunnel vision (inadequate peripheral vision), you don't need to look away to monitor your opponent. You should be able to easily see your opponent & their movement when the incoming ball is 10-20 feet (3-6 meters) from you even tho' you would probably be primarily tracking the ball.
As the ball gets closer, you should be able to pick up your opponent's position & movement with your peripheral vision. There is no reason to look up to see any detail (to see if their socks match or if their shirt is still tucked in). It is sufficient to see only movement -- your peripheral vision can handle this well enough -- your central vision is not needed for this -- it should stay on the ball or on the contact zone.
Even after you've made contact, you don't need to sneak a peek until your ball has crossed the net (unless your opponent is at the net). Best to keep your head still and eyes down on the contact zone so that your swing path is not adversely altered. Trust your peripheral vision (this may not be easy to do tho').
Bounce/hit
Trying to pick focus on print on ball (especially after the bounce)
Focus on contact zone (a la Federer)
What techniques work for you? Thanks.
what... print on the ball? you wonna know if it's a Wilson 1 or a Penn3? LOLOL, that's the most ridiculous thing i have heard... contact zone? not! amateur looks at Fed's FH slow motion video must be thinking - wow, look at how he focus on the contact zone.... duh! his eyes are on the contact zone, but the picture he sees is not the contact zone or the ball, he is already envisioning how the opp will react to the shot and how he is gonna punish the next ball coming back!
eyes on the ball etc, these things maybe important at the beginner level when you try to build your basic strokes.... but once you get pass that stage, the focus should always be on balanced point construction.
my eyes are on the ball (it's hard not to), but my focus is always where I want to hit the thing for the next ball, or the next 3 balls if I really push it.... and the picture I see is myself executing the point construction in perfect balance every time.... perfect balance I mean as if I can hold my finish for 3 seconds after every stroke.
have that focus, your feet will float effortlessly, your will have impact with perfect timing, and you will cut down unforced errors significantly.
I did say eyes on the ball are important at the beginner stage... but how long does it take to learn the fundamentals - 2 weeks? 2 months? people usually get past this stage quickly.
the anticipation/point construction part that separates a mature play from a beginner.
and believe me, Fed is NOT concentrating on the contact zone... that has already so engrained in his brain, since he was probably 10 years old.... at his level, his computer CPU is always calculating the next 5-6 shots.
I did say eyes on the ball are important at the beginner stage... but how long does it take to learn the fundamentals - 2 weeks? 2 months? people usually get past this stage quickly.
the anticipation/point construction part that separates a mature play from a beginner.
and believe me, Fed is NOT concentrating on the contact zone... that has already so engrained in his brain, since he was probably 10 years old.... at his level, his computer CPU is always calculating the next 5-6 shots.
believe me, Fed is NOT concentrating on the contact zone... that has already so engrained in his brain, since he was probably 10 years old.... at his level, his computer CPU is always calculating the next 5-6 shots.
I only look for a split second so I can see how they're going to hit the ball; if they're gonna hit with topspin or backspin or flat...
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and believe me, Fed is NOT concentrating on the contact zone... that has already so engrained in his brain, since he was probably 10 years old.... at his level, his computer CPU is always calculating the next 5-6 shots.
When are you sneaking this peek? I don't believe that is is necessary while the ball is on your side of the net. On the incoming ball, you should be able to see your opponent until the ball within a couple of meters of you. During & just after you've hit the ball, it is more important to keep the head still while you are swinging. I don't see Fed sneaking a peek until his follow-thru is nearly complete.
Dunno about this. He is concentrating on the contact zone insofar as he maintains visual focus. Part of this visual focus also involves mental focus as well. Seriously doubt that he calculating the next 5-6 shots during his contact phase. While he is zoned in on the contact, he may know what his opponent's options might be in response to his shot, but he is not psychic enough to know which option that they will chose, let alone predict their actions for the next 5 shots or so.
While he undoubtedly does have a game plan and knows very well how to construct points, I'm sure that he is very much playing in the "now".
Bounce/hit
Trying to pick focus on print on ball (especially after the bounce)
Focus on contact zone (a la Federer)
What techniques work for you? Thanks.
Movement and concentration happen first in the mind. The mind reads in things through your senses which are alert to the things happening. The mind sends signals to the muscles and they perform.
When you are playing tennis, try to not focus on your technique and instead the point you are playing with what you bring (strengths and weaknesses) to the table.
I have wrote good information on the use of HIT-BOUNCE-HIT to keep focused through the entire point and it would behoove you to read up on it. It is more than just a catchy cadence to help you with your timing.
Movement and concentration happen first in the mind. The mind reads in things through your senses which are alert to the things happening. The mind sends signals to the muscles and they perform.
Hey, Bungalo Bill. Just like what you are saying "the mind sends signals...." Scott Ford (I have no connection with him, but I did listen to him at a conference once) addressed this with the concept of peripheral vision and how that signal is processed quicker with peripheral vision than with whatever non-peripheral vision is called. Are you familiar with his work? Here's a link if you are interested. http://www.arete-sports.com/content/articles/SV1.pdf I think it is actually a key to the psychological part of the game, but don't tell anyone, it's my secret edge!
I am not familiar with his work but it sounds interesting. I think the term you are looking for on the other is "focal" vision.
In my past life, I emmersed myself in learning theory and instructional design. I know all about gradient learning, bloom's taxonomy of learning, etc...
Gaining knowledge of this stuff helped me understand Bradens more deeper studies in research that had to do with the eyes, receiving information, processing information, psychomotor, and other things pertaining to tennis. It is also the reason why I always say a lot of this has already been known but maybe not popular.
It is good stuff and I know enough to be dangerous.
Hey, Bungalo Bill. Just like what you are saying "the mind sends signals...." Scott Ford (I have no connection with him, but I did listen to him at a conference once) addressed this with the concept of peripheral vision and how that signal is processed quicker with peripheral vision than with whatever non-peripheral vision is called. Are you familiar with his work? Here's a link if you are interested. http://www.arete-sports.com/content/articles/SV1.pdf I think it is actually a key to the psychological part of the game, but don't tell anyone, it's my secret edge!