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What's the most reliable way I can test my intelligence (IQ as well as other areas)? Willing to spend money.
What's the most reliable way I can test my intelligence (IQ as well as other areas)? Willing to spend money.
"most reliable way" is meaningless. What constitutes "reliable" when there is no universally accepted standard of measurement. There are standards that come CLOSE to being universally accepted, such as common IQ tests administered by trained psychologists.
How reliable is the iqtest.com one? I just did it.. How Computational Speed was lower than all the other areas is in line with my academic experiences so far.. Kinda sucks, this means I can be successful at anything I want to do as long as I invest alot of time into it lol
It's kinda a fraud, they make you invest 13 minutes and THEN tell you to pay 10 bucks.
And to add, IQ tests have long been admonished for they don't really give a number that actually means anything. It won't determine how successful you'll be, the discoveries you will make (and also the discoveries others who are "lesser" in number make etc.), how to relate to people, get you the house, the girl, the car and the dog.
The tests mean a lot. They indicate raw intelligence, spatial and analytical abilities. What you are refering to is EQ. IQ is a good way to decide what you should NOT be doing - like becoming a theoretical physicist, or attending MIT. I have seen many people who are miserable in life after either being pushed into something unsuitable by their parents, or mistaking a childhood interest for ability in a field. No, you cannot become Einstein by having a "passion" for physics. If someone says so, ask him/her to shove it.
You can ask your school psychologist to give you an IQ test if you really wanted to. I had one couple years ago to determine if I could be in the gifted student program.
Go to a tough university, take tough classes, see what kind of grades you get.
The tests mean a lot. They indicate raw intelligence, spatial and analytical abilities. What you are refering to is EQ. IQ is a good way to decide what you should NOT be doing - like becoming a theoretical physicist, or attending MIT. I have seen many people who are miserable in life after either being pushed into something unsuitable by their parents, or mistaking a childhood interest for ability in a field. No, you cannot become Einstein by having a "passion" for physics. If someone says so, ask him/her to shove it.
Study math. Lots of it. Play chess.
It measures intelligence as defined by certain scientific ways of thinking about what constitutes intelligence, and further, what knowledge you contain in relation to a specific cultural emphasis on the importance of that knowledge. So, for example, if you're a society that doesn't appreciate how to cook, then the inability to cook will not be missed until you go to a different society that thinks anyone who doesn't know how to cook is stupid. IQ tests, and even EQ tests, simply measure a few ways that the brain learns and responds. There is still so much we don't even know about how we learn for any test at the present to represent intelligence accurately, if it can even be measured accurately.
Do you know the insides of the MIT and theoretical physics world you talked about? I'm curious if you do.
To some extent, though I am associated with neither. I know that the level is so high that most people cannot grasp it. People can understand that they will not be like Federer, but they cannot grasp that some people can solve a math problem in 5 minutes which most others cannot do even if given a lifetime. There is a false notion that "working hard" will achieve anything. It is true in certain professions only.
The inverse of your post-count -- pretty reliable, I'd say.
Street smarts is more important than IQ.
To some extent, though I am associated with neither. I know that the level is so high that most people cannot grasp it. People can understand that they will not be like Federer, but they cannot grasp that some people can solve a math problem in 5 minutes which most others cannot do even if given a lifetime. There is a false notion that "working hard" will achieve anything. It is true in certain professions only.
What is the minimum/average IQ of people like that/people in that field? 150/170 ish?
Good point as to the rocket scientist example Chess9, that's funny, but if that programming rocket scientist is such a jerk that no one wants to be around him or her, he or she will never get anything actually accomplished.
You can't be just book smart or street smart, both are absolutely necessary to be successful in any field out there, except maybe being a great artist as a solitary figure (ex. Salvador Dali, or someone like that).
Street smarts is more important than IQ.
Having said that, the tolerance for asocial geniuses among research organizations (and chess clubs) is quite high because it's known as the price one sometimes pays for genius. Einstein would cut off the sleeves of his dress shirts, by way of example. His office at Princeton looked like a hurricane had blown through.
-Robert
I think the problem is when someone who knows his IQ is not high tries to prove that it is of no use.
What's the most reliable way I can test my intelligence (IQ as well as other areas)? Willing to spend money.
It strikes at the roots of democracy, because an intelligent electorate is a must for a successful democracy.
Newton was asocial. He locked himself up for a year to write the Principia.
Well, I worked at Bell Labs for a year and I can tell you without reservation that the number of geniuses with minimal social skills is quite high
I believe 140+.
I'm not saying it's of no use, just that IQ is not the end all be all. For example i knew a guy who was really smart, was able to watch jeapordy or something like that and could name all the correct answers and really impressed me, but when we played some chess that he asked me to play and if i knew how, and i beat him a couple times in a row, he was pretty devastated and stunned, from someone with a obviously lower IQ than him.
Street smart does not just mean hustling people on the streets.
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Tricky, you've alluded to this somewhat in your post above, in that there are highly intelligent people on so many fields out there, but many mistakenly tend to think well, only THESE sorts of folks are intelligent and not all those others.