Avatar! (believe the hype)

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TahoeTennis

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As a huge James Cameron fan, and movie fan in general...there is perhaps no other movie this year I am looking forward to more than AVATAR, which opens next Friday!

I'm just hoping it is as great as I hope it will be. It's getting a great response so far:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091211/REVIEWS/912119998

Any other Cameron, Avatar, Aliens, T2, Titanic fans out there? Bueller?
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NickC

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I'm planning on going with some friends on opening night. I read a review of the movie on IGN this morning and apparently the hype is real. This movie IS going to change filmmaking from here on out, or so the critics have been saying.
 
35ft6

35ft6

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It's going to be awesome I'm sure. I went to the 15 minute preview in 3D here in LA. The 3D is unlike anything I've seen before. I associate 3D with rocks being thrown at you, but even when the people are just sitting around having a meeting, you get a sense of depth.

Cameron is one of the few directors who infuses his sci-fi, fantasy, CGI epics with real substance and emotions. Jackson and Speilberg are the other two. This movie is going to inspire several generations of future filmmakers the way Star Wars did. I can't even imagine what a 10yo kid must be feeling when he/she sees the trailer, they must be having psychotic episodes of excitement.
 
Feña14

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
I'm sure it's very well made, the idea for the story doesn't interest me in the slightest though.

I won't be seeing it.
 
35ft6

35ft6

Legend
^ It's basically classic hero's myth that Joseph Campbell talks about. It's been told a thousand times and it will be told a thousand more, and when it's done well, it's the most satisfying story possible. Songs and movies, sometimes the best ones are the simplest, just executed incredibly well.
 
lancernrg

lancernrg

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TahoeTennis said:
As a huge James Cameron fan, and movie fan in general...there is perhaps no other movie this year I am looking forward to more than AVATAR, which opens next Friday!

I'm just hoping it is as great as I hope it will be. It's getting a great response so far:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091211/REVIEWS/912119998

Any other Cameron, Avatar, Aliens, T2, Titanic fans out there? Bueller?
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I got to see an advanced screening of Avatar a couple of days ago, unfortunately it did not live up to the hype.
Storyline was long and dragging, and action was too "chaotic" eg. (Batman Begins).

Don't bother wasting your money on this pile of crap. As a matter of fact, this movie makes Toy Story 2 look like a masterpiece.
 
CanadianChic

CanadianChic

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Believe the hype...yeah right. My arse! I believed the 'hype' over 2012 and it was without a doubt one of the worst, most unrealistic, crappy dialogue, bad effects, just-blow-up-the-earth-and-get-it-over-with-already! movies I have had the misfortune to almost completely sit through.
 
skyzoo

skyzoo

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CanadianChic said:
Believe the hype...yeah right. My arse! I believed the 'hype' over 2012 and it was without a doubt one of the worst, most unrealistic, crappy dialogue, bad effects, just-blow-up-the-earth-and-get-it-over-with-already! movies I have had the misfortune to almost completely sit through.
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arse? arn't you from canada? I believe that word is only used in britian, australia and ireland.
 
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i love t3nn1s

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I dont know why, but when this trailer first came out, I thought it was going to be a World of Warcraft movie or something

By the way, whats this movie gonna be about anyway? Why is everyone so excited about it? Juss curious.
 
FuriousYellow

FuriousYellow

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CanadianChic said:
Believe the hype...yeah right. My arse! I believed the 'hype' over 2012 and it was without a doubt one of the worst, most unrealistic, crappy dialogue, bad effects, just-blow-up-the-earth-and-get-it-over-with-already! movies I have had the misfortune to almost completely sit through.
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A prime example of digital effects gone too far in attempt to make up for bad writing, bad casting, and bad acting.

Danny Glover may have replaced Bill Pullman (Independence Day) for the worst Presidential performance in the history of film.
 
35ft6

35ft6

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David_Is_Right said:
I think 2012 was always destined to be a steaming pile of Emmerich dung. Avatar at least has a shot of decent-ness...
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How someone can compare Emmerich to Cameron is beyond me. Cameron is a true cinematic genius. If Cameron or Pete Jackson is directing something, I expect it to be good. Even The Abyss, his most maligned film, had moments that genuinely moved me, and besides being an underrated story, it was a huge technical achievement.
 
stormholloway

stormholloway

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CanadianChic said:
Believe the hype...yeah right. My arse! I believed the 'hype' over 2012 and it was without a doubt one of the worst, most unrealistic, crappy dialogue, bad effects, just-blow-up-the-earth-and-get-it-over-with-already! movies I have had the misfortune to almost completely sit through.
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What does Avatar, directed by James Cameron, have to do with 2012? There was no hype for 2012 beyond the film's own promotion. Avatar is getting high praise from critics.
 
Docalex007

Docalex007

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Avatar World Premiere - London Video!

Hey guys,

I put together a video from the World Premiere of Avatar in London which I got to go to... I also got to get up close with most of the cast.

You can see the video edited on You Tube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR2fcUjfV84

A good rating would be nice :) Cheers!

And yes, that's me asking Sam Worthington if he enjoyed making the movie! :)
 
Fedace

Fedace

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Looks like a Kids movie. but i have heard some really bad reviews on this one. If you like special effects then go but they say that is all it has.
 
Docalex007

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malakas said:
hah that was a dress?It looked..very ugly.:) So..did you get to see the movie and did you like it?
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The movie was absolutely stunning! I'm no cry baby but I have to admit, I was fighting back tears at least twice. Cameron sure does know how to make the emotions come out. The movie is really touching on a deep level, not just some CGI fest!

Pandora is an amazing world. He really went all out with attention to detail, etc. I watch a lot of movies, but this ranks in my top 5 movies of the decade easily. Right up there with Gladiator... it's THAT good. :)

And no that was not the dress, she's wearing a jacket! The dress you can't see of course!
 
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mental midget

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35ft6 said:
^ It's basically classic hero's myth that Joseph Campbell talks about. It's been told a thousand times and it will be told a thousand more, and when it's done well, it's the most satisfying story possible. Songs and movies, sometimes the best ones are the simplest, just executed incredibly well.
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quite possibly the first time someone has invoked the name of joseph campbell on the TT message boards. hero with a thousand faces in the HOUSE.
 
malakas

malakas

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Docalex007 said:
The movie was absolutely stunning! I'm no cry baby but I have to admit, I was fighting back tears at least twice. Cameron sure does know how to make the emotions come out. The movie is really touching on a deep level, not just some CGI fest!

Pandora is an amazing world. He really went all out with attention to detail, etc. I watch a lot of movies, but this ranks in my top 5 movies of the decade easily. Right up there with Gladiator... it's THAT good. :)

And no that was not the dress, she's wearing a jacket! The dress you can't see of course!
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It somehow didn't seem like the movie that will cause tears?!..but will be worth watching I think.Thanx for the report,though I didn't like Gladiator so much.lol.
 
Fedace

Fedace

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Docalex007 said:
The movie was absolutely stunning! I'm no cry baby but I have to admit, I was fighting back tears at least twice. Cameron sure does know how to make the emotions come out. The movie is really touching on a deep level, not just some CGI fest!

Pandora is an amazing world. He really went all out with attention to detail, etc. I watch a lot of movies, but this ranks in my top 5 movies of the decade easily. Right up there with Gladiator... it's THAT good. :)

And no that was not the dress, she's wearing a jacket! The dress you can't see of course!
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Critics like roger Ebert say, this is Nothing but the special effect fest. NO story worth seeing in there... and is the Blue people good or bad people ??? and which ones are the bad guys ??
 
Docalex007

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Fedace said:
Critics like roger Ebert say, this is Nothing but the special effect fest. NO story worth seeing in there... and is the Blue people good or bad people ??? and which ones are the bad guys ??
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Roger Ebert? Are you serious? The man gave an excellent review of the movie!

""Avatar" is not simply a sensational entertainment, although it is that. It's a technical breakthrough. It has a flat-out Green and anti-war message. It is predestined to launch a cult. It contains such visual detailing that it would reward repeating viewings. It invents a new language, Na'vi, as "Lord of the Rings" did, although mercifully I doubt this one can be spoken by humans, even teenage humans. It creates new movie stars. It is an Event, one of those films you feel you must see to keep up with the conversation."

Link to his review here:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091211/REVIEWS/912119998
 
Docalex007

Docalex007

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malakas said:
It somehow didn't seem like the movie that will cause tears?!..but will be worth watching I think.Thanx for the report,though I didn't like Gladiator so much.lol.
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Are you kidding! How can you not foresee the potential for a strong emotional response from knowing the basic plot of this film????

Unless you really can't grasp the epic-ness of it all, that a man (the hero) would risk his life and existence for what seems to be a lost cause against his own kind, but he does everything in his power to defend what he has come to love.

If you can't see possible emotions coming from that... you're not human. :)
 
Fedace

Fedace

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Docalex007 said:
Roger Ebert? Are you serious? The man gave an excellent review of the movie!

""Avatar" is not simply a sensational entertainment, although it is that. It's a technical breakthrough. It has a flat-out Green and anti-war message. It is predestined to launch a cult. It contains such visual detailing that it would reward repeating viewings. It invents a new language, Na'vi, as "Lord of the Rings" did, although mercifully I doubt this one can be spoken by humans, even teenage humans. It creates new movie stars. It is an Event, one of those films you feel you must see to keep up with the conversation."

Link to his review here:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091211/REVIEWS/912119998
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Oh sorry, i must have meant Gene Siskel. His partner... anyway is the blue guys bad or good aliens ??
 
Docalex007

Docalex007

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Fedace said:
Oh sorry, i must have meant Gene Siskel. His partner... anyway is the blue guys bad or good aliens ??
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Not going to give anything away. But from the plot, how can you not guess who the bad and good guys are????

Unless you're all for invading and running out indigenous peoples to claim resources for yourself, then i'm sure you know who you should be pulling for in this movie.
 
malakas

malakas

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Docalex007 said:
Are you kidding! How can you not foresee the potential for a strong emotional response from knowing the basic plot of this film????

Unless you really can't grasp the epic-ness of it all, that a man (the hero) would risk his life and existence for what seems to be a lost cause against his own kind, but he does everything in his power to defend what he has come to love.

If you can't see possible emotions coming from that... you're not human. :)
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wow jeez thanx.
I have seen this script a thousand times in books,films and all kinds of art so nothing original nothing that will move me especially.If I'm going to be touched by something it won't be the script or the special effects it will be the actor's perfomance.That's why I find it really doubtfull.
 
Fedace

Fedace

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Docalex007 said:
Not going to give anything away. But from the plot, how can you not guess who the bad and good guys are????

Unless you're all for invading and running out indigenous peoples to claim resources for yourself, then i'm sure you know who you should be pulling for in this movie.
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so if the blue guys are the bad guys then why is that one blue guy so friendly with the human and why does humans have all the good tech and blue people are just flying on animals ...:confused:
 
Docalex007

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malakas said:
wow jeez thanx.
I have seen this script a thousand times in books,films and all kinds of art so nothing original nothing that will move me especially.If I'm going to be touched by something it won't be the script or the special effects it will be the actor's perfomance.That's why I find it really doubtfull.
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So you need originality to make you emotional? Wow. Good luck trying to find original concepts in films out there, with millions of movies, hardly any films coming out these days have a story line that's different from all previous films.

Either way, Avatar IS original in the details of the plot, like being on a beautiful, mystical alien moon called Pandora, so having the hero turn against his own kind to help the indigenous aliens on their home moon is a rather original concept.

You have to lose yourself in films, malakas. You sound too uptight. I can see a "Gladiator" type film redone over and over again. When a sacrificial hero dies, if it's done well, how can you not tear up? :)
 
Docalex007

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Fedace said:
so if the blue guys are the bad guys then why is that one blue guy so friendly with the human and why does humans have all the good tech and blue people are just flying on animals ...:confused:
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Are you seriously an idiot? Or being sarcastic? wtf is it with you man...
 
malakas

malakas

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Docalex007 said:
So you need originality to make you emotional? Wow. Good luck trying to find original concepts in films out there, with millions of movies, hardly any films coming out these days have a story line that's different from all previous films.

Either way, Avatar IS original in the details of the plot, like being on a beautiful, mystical alien moon called Pandora, so having the hero turn against his own kind to help the indigenous aliens on their home moon is a rather original concept.

You have to lose yourself in films, malakas. You sound too uptight. I can see a "Gladiator" type film redone over and over again. When a sacrificial hero dies, if it's done well, how can you not tear up? :)
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no no I don't need only originality necessarily.I appreciate originality above almost anything else in films nowadays since the one is a repeat of the previous it seems.And you're right it is very hard to find original films.

What I need to be touched is a movie with great perfomances that leave behind them either a deep meaning or a lasting feeling.I don't care for graphics or sceneries or big productions.I don't care about most of what passes of entertainment today-"movies" just to fill out the time ..I am not entertained by them -I am bored.

I know that that's why cinema is for,to lose ourselves into.But the films have to help I can't do it when it is a yawnfest.
 
r2473

r2473

G.O.A.T.
CanadianChic said:
Believe the hype...yeah right. My arse! I believed the 'hype' over 2012 and it was without a doubt one of the worst, most unrealistic, crappy dialogue, bad effects, just-blow-up-the-earth-and-get-it-over-with-already! movies I have had the misfortune to almost completely sit through.
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Let me get this straight, you saw a recently made movie that contains something you would classify as actual dialogue?

Now I know you are lying :)
 
35ft6

35ft6

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malakas said:
no no I don't need only originality necessarily.I appreciate originality above almost anything else in films nowadays since the one is a repeat of the previous it seems.And you're right it is very hard to find original films.
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There is no originality in films. And maybe I could have said "there's no originality" in plays or religion or novels or cave drawings 500, 1000, 200, or even 10,000 years ago. How "original" you think something is depends on how much exposure you've had to all the art that's been created before it. That's why adults are always getting annoyed with kids liking stuff they think is derivative. Yo, give the 10 yo a break, he hasn't been exposed to as many TV shows, songs, books, paintings, foods, and films as you, he doesn't realize yet it's been done before.

Look, people have been telling the same stories since the dawn of time, but some people do it better than others. Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy tries to get girl back. Boy lives in boring world, evil turns his world upside down, boy saves world. Greed, love, jealousy, revenge... reoccurring themes, too.

And then you have paradoxes like Tarantino who is one of the most original yet plagiarizing film makers out there. Originality is a relative term in this world. Just depends if you're knowledgeable enough to realize history's been repeating itself for a long time now.
 
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35ft6

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Docalex007 said:
Are you seriously an idiot? Or being sarcastic? wtf is it with you man...
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I don't believe Fedace is real for a second. Somebody make a thread of Fedace's greatest posts. When you see it all in one place, you'll realize he's fake. Still funny, though.
 
malakas

malakas

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35ft6 said:
There is no originality in films. And maybe I could have said "there's no originality" in plays or religion or novels or cave drawings 500, 1000, 200, or even 10,000 years ago. How "original" you think something is depends on how much exposure you've had to all the art that's been created before it. That's why adults are always getting annoyed with kids liking stuff they think is derivative. Yo, give the 10 yo a break, he hasn't been exposed to as many TV shows, songs, books, paintings, foods, and films as you, he doesn't realize yet it's been done before.

Look, people have been telling the same stories since the dawn of time, but some people do it better than others. Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy tries to get girl back. Boy lives in boring world, evil turns his world upside down, boy saves world. Greed, love, jealousy, revenge... reoccurring themes, too.

And then you have paradoxes like Tarantino who is one of the most original yet plagiarizing film makers out there. Originality is a relative term in this world. Just depends if you're knowledgeable enough to realize history's been repeating itself for a long time now.
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I've never thought it like this,but you're very right.Originality is relative and objective term.Well I guess because then I have read a lot of books I hardly find any script original anymore and rarely very interesting.But yes it's not about the story as much as the storytelling and the actors.It happens that lately even the silly french movies appeal to me more than the typical american superproduction.They're just so much the same to each other.
 
malakas

malakas

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Fedace said:
Malakas,,, is the blue aliens good or bad ? and how do they fight with only animals and arrows as weapons ?? when humans have lasers and photon weapons ??
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Fedace...the truth is that the blue aliens are very evil and they came down to earth to dominate and enslave humans withtheir supertransformer monsters but thank god to myhusband Stepanek humanity is saved.You see who needs lasers and photon weapons when you have the power of the worm?
 
Fedace

Fedace

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malakas said:
Fedace...the truth is that the blue aliens are very evil and they came down to earth to dominate and enslave humans withtheir supertransformer monsters but thank god to myhusband Stepanek humanity is saved.You see who needs lasers and photon weapons when you have the power of the worm?
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i think you have a wrong movie. Worm was in the movie DUNE. not this one. and the entire movie was shot in another galaxy. not on Earth......:confused::confused:
 
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