Anybody play with this type of player?

all3ofus

all3ofus

New User
Yesterday while playing our usta mixed match, I was paired with a women at our club who I know and have played with her husband several times but not herself. I have seen her play a few times on the challenge court just in passing and she hits the ball ok. For starters, our match started at 1pm and she was 15 mins late and luckily other team said it was fine they would wait a little bit. She finally shows up we, warm her up and we are finally ready to play. She then proceeds to tell me where to serve what to do after I serve and so forth. She continues to talk about what and where to hit, while she is making mistake after mistake. (Basically it is do as I say not as I do). Anyways, we lose the first set 5-7 and in second set she is still talking and says "am I talking too much" and I reply " I havent heard a word you said, I am trying to concentrate". She got so bent out of shape we ended up losing second set 4-6. I think she only won 1 game on her serve and at the end, she was very nice and well prasing, and she said "if we would have been more consistent", WTF!! what do you mean we! Why do people act like this? Her rating is 4.0 but from what I seen she is no better than 3.0
 
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decades

Guest
yeah its pretty common. I played with a gal once, when I didn't cross to poach or something, said "you don't play much do you?" I could have beaten her 0 - 0. I ignored her pretty much the entire set and couldn't wait to get off the court. They make doubles "un fun".
 
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cll30

Rookie
Not quite as bad as your situation but I have played with some annoying people who try to tell me what to do or try to do too much themselves.

I'm a solid 3.5 player and was teamed with 3.0 player for a league doubles match. The sun was really bad on one end of the court and my partner insisted on serving on the good end. He started each of his service games with 2 to 3 double faults. :mad:

In another league match I was paired with a different 3.0 player who told me that he was going to serve hard and wide to deuce court so I so should be ready at net to pick off a winner. Result: double fault. For the next point when he told me again his plans for serve, I said - Dude, just get it in.
 
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Annika

Semi-Pro
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nyways, we lose the first set 5-7 and in second set she is still talking and says "am I talking too much" and I reply " I havent heard a word you said, I am trying to concentrate".
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I have said that exact thing to a partner. :? It's nicer than saying "will you please shut up."
 
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ALten1

Rookie
I played with an older lady (one and only time) that would swing and miss or frame it more times than she would actually hit it. She would then proceed to laugh at her mistake, and at first I would laugh with her. That was until the lectures started after my first mistake. I had no idea there was thirty years of "professional" coaching dying to get out of her. I learned more about my game in that one afternoon from her for free than I could have ever learned in a week from a certified instructor.

To the lady I played with that afternoon, if you're reading this, thank you. Thank you for pointing out everything I did wrong on that joyful day while we laughed together (I think we even shared a coke or six while laughing) at your mistakes. Thank you for not knowing why you couldn't hit the ball yet knew exactly what I needed to do to fix my mistakes. Thank you for utililizing the eyes in the back of your head that could see what I was doing wrong when tracking down your whiffs while you were wondering (and wandering around) where the ball went after you didn't hit it. And finally, thanks for making me realize that open handed slap boxing against a rattlesnake was a lot less painful than I once thought!
 
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beststringer

Rookie
all3ofus said:
Yesterday while playing our usta mixed match, I was paired with a women at our club who I know and have played with her husband several times but not herself. I have seen her play a few times on the challenge court just in passing and she hits the ball ok. For starters, our match started at 1pm and she was 15 mins late and luckily other team said it was fine they would wait a little bit. She finally shows up we, warm her up and we are finally ready to play. She then proceeds to tell me where to serve what to do after I serve and so forth. She continues to talk about what and where to hit, while she is making mistake after mistake. (Basically it is do as I say not as I do). Anyways, we lose the first set 5-7 and in second set she is still talking and says "am I talking too much" and I reply " I havent heard a word you said, I am trying to concentrate". She got so bent out of shape we ended up losing second set 4-6. I think she only won 1 game on her serve and at the end, she was very nice and well prasing, and she said "if we would have been more consistent", WTF!! what do you mean we! Why do people act like this? Her rating is 4.0 but from what I seen she is no better than 3.0
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Is she like 51? A lot of women around that age in my area are taking anti-depressants for meno pausal issues.
 
Big_Dangerous

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
decades said:
yeah its pretty common. I played with a gal once, when I didn't cross to poach or something, said "you don't play much do you?" I could have beaten her 0 - 0. I ignored her pretty much the entire set and couldn't wait to get off the court. They make doubles "un fun".
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Yeah that's one of the reasons why I hate playing doubles with anyone other than my friends. People almost always think they're better than you and any mistakes made are your fault somehow.

I know my friend played with a girl in a mixed doubles league, and he said she was like one of the worst partners ever because her serve was absolutely horrendous and anytime he made a mistake she made annoying comments berating him for making an unforced error, meanwhile I watched her double fault at least 6 or 7 times in just one set.
 
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larry10s

Hall of Fame
all3ofus said:
Yesterday while playing our usta mixed match, I was paired with a women at our club who I know and have played with her husband several times but not herself. I have seen her play a few times on the challenge court just in passing and she hits the ball ok. For starters, our match started at 1pm and she was 15 mins late and luckily other team said it was fine they would wait a little bit. She finally shows up we, warm her up and we are finally ready to play. She then proceeds to tell me where to serve what to do after I serve and so forth. She continues to talk about what and where to hit, while she is making mistake after mistake. (Basically it is do as I say not as I do). Anyways, we lose the first set 5-7 and in second set she is still talking and says "am I talking too much" and I reply " I havent heard a word you said, I am trying to concentrate". She got so bent out of shape we ended up losing second set 4-6. I think she only won 1 game on her serve and at the end, she was very nice and well prasing, and she said "if we would have been more consistent", WTF!! what do you mean we! Why do people act like this? Her rating is 4.0 but from what I seen she is no better than 3.0
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when stuck with a player like that you can ignore them like you tried to do (great line to her btw) or tell her "i do better if you let me play my game. i can take a lesson with you at another time." then try to never play with that person again.
on a side note when i could barely play but had alot of book knowledge i tried to tell eveyone everything. it took a while to learn to shut up. now if i play with a lessor partner my only advice is words of encouragement.
 
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MissJennieB

New User
If I was in your position I would ask the captain to never pair her with you again. Obviously a partner like that will bring your game down because you'll be concentrating more on not making a mistake than on playing your actual game. I don't like it when people give me advice when it's not solicited (especially during a match). Especially for mixed doubles, which should be fun!

Do you guys have team practices? I always try to pair up people before the league starts so we can figure out who is comfortable playing with whom (especially if there are new members).
 
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ibeeskeef

New User
lesson #1. Avoid mixed trouble!!

lesson #2. If you are going to play mixed trouble then use it as a way to work on particular shots and things in your game that will benefit you when men's league rolls back around.

Lesson #3. See lesson #1.
 
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Racer41c

Professional
all3ofus said:
Yesterday while playing our usta mixed match, I was paired with a women at our club who I know and have played with her husband several times but not herself. I have seen her play a few times on the challenge court just in passing and she hits the ball ok. For starters, our match started at 1pm and she was 15 mins late and luckily other team said it was fine they would wait a little bit. She finally shows up we, warm her up and we are finally ready to play. She then proceeds to tell me where to serve what to do after I serve and so forth. She continues to talk about what and where to hit, while she is making mistake after mistake. (Basically it is do as I say not as I do). Anyways, we lose the first set 5-7 and in second set she is still talking and says "am I talking too much" and I reply " I havent heard a word you said, I am trying to concentrate". She got so bent out of shape we ended up losing second set 4-6. I think she only won 1 game on her serve and at the end, she was very nice and well prasing, and she said "if we would have been more consistent", WTF!! what do you mean we! Why do people act like this? Her rating is 4.0 but from what I seen she is no better than 3.0
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I think I played with her before! No really, I live in your area. I played with this one gal who just kept telling me what to do, etc. And to think of it she was late to the match as well. Anyway, I tried to ignore her as long as I could but just couldn't take it any more so I let her have it. Unbelivable response. She play much better and would have pulled out the match but she wound up cramping and couldn't finish.

On another night a couple weeks ago, I was playing with this guy who I setup with about 10 put aways. He hit every one in the net or off the back fence. In the middle of the set I was pretty frustrated and made a couple of errors. His response was "neither one of us can do anything" !!! I was so pissed I poached as many balls hit to him as I could. He asked me why and I said "because I can do something about it". Anyway, I put lame brain on my back and pulled out the set. Gladly we rotate partners every set!
 
Steady Eddy

Steady Eddy

Legend
ALten1 said:
I played with an older lady (one and only time) that would swing and miss or frame it more times than she would actually hit it. She would then proceed to laugh at her mistake, and at first I would laugh with her. That was until the lectures started after my first mistake. I had no idea there was thirty years of "professional" coaching dying to get out of her. I learned more about my game in that one afternoon from her for free than I could have ever learned in a week from a certified instructor.
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Some people have put in all this time, and especially money into their tennis, and still aren't as good as most beginners are who've played for a half hour. They think they've gotten somewhere with their lessons and really don't understand how they're not any sort of a player at all. I don't mind if someone is terrible, but how can they not see that they cannot play? And can't the pro make ANY improvement on such a pupil?
 
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ALten1

Rookie
MissJennieB said:
If I was in your position I would ask the captain to never pair her with you again. Obviously a partner like that will bring your game down because you'll be concentrating more on not making a mistake than on playing your actual game. I don't like it when people give me advice when it's not solicited (especially during a match). Especially for mixed doubles, which should be fun!

Do you guys have team practices? I always try to pair up people before the league starts so we can figure out who is comfortable playing with whom (especially if there are new members).[/QUOTE]


What do you do with the player described by OP? The player that no one is comfortable playing with.
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MissJennieB

New User
ALten1 said:
What do you do with the player described by OP? The player that no one is comfortable playing with.
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Good question! Cross my fingers and hope that someone will take one for the team and play with her? :twisted: Haha. I always make sure players are compatible for the team when I recruit so I guess I've never been in that situation before :-?
 
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ALten1

Rookie
MissJennieB said:
Good question! Cross my fingers and hope that someone will take one for the team and play with her? :twisted: Haha. I always make sure players are compatible for the team when I recruit so I guess I've never been in that situation before :-?
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Someone definitly has to take one for the team because most states don't allow two people like this to live in the same county. My problem is the woman I played with is a wonderful person off the court. She'll give me a hug everytime she see's me...makes me feel guilty just talking about her. I think I'm going to go take one for the team.
 
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MissJennieB

New User
ALten1 said:
Someone definitly has to take one for the team because most states don't allow two people like this to live in the same county. My problem is the woman I played with is a wonderful person off the court. She'll give me a hug everytime she see's me...makes me feel guilty just talking about her. I think I'm going to go take one for the team.
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LOL! I give you props Alten! Who knows, maybe she'll loosen up a bit when you start playing more together and you'll actually have some fun.
 
ttbrowne

ttbrowne

Hall of Fame
There was a woman who played on my wife's team last year that did the same thing. She was just an okay player. When they made it to Regionals, she lost her nerve and the pressure got to her so bad she could barely hit a ball. I think she faked an injury so she wouldn't have to play in Sectionals.
 
Steady Eddy

Steady Eddy

Legend
ttbrowne said:
There was a woman who played on my wife's team last year that did the same thing. She was just an okay player. When they made it to Regionals, she lost her nerve and the pressure got to her so bad she could barely hit a ball. I think she faked an injury so she wouldn't have to play in Sectionals.
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Pressure? No one even cares.
 
Bash and Crash

Bash and Crash

Semi-Pro
Love this thread. As a teaching pro I see this all the time, some ladies can't find a partner anymore cuz of their on court "coaching", but the capper is usually when there is a rules question during the match, they "always" know the correct ruling, and actually mostly always wrong.
 
Steady Eddy

Steady Eddy

Legend
Bash and Crash said:
Love this thread. As a teaching pro I see this all the time, some ladies can't find a partner anymore cuz of their on court "coaching", but the capper is usually when there is a rules question during the match, they "always" know the correct ruling, and actually mostly always wrong.
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As the saying goes, "Often wrong, never in doubt."
 
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