and a bit too "wristy" follow thru, bad habit from badminton -,-)
People probably think mine looks like his because one handed backhand players are a rare sight for them.
well, i try to take some things from his backhand that i think are useful like
setting the backhand grip prior to the unit turn (others do this as well, haas, gasquet, dimitrov..)
Ive been working on moving to the ball with my racquet set up higher so that all that needs to be done with the unit turn is just that, turn
Working on greater shoulder turn with the unit turn as he, and others do it
The overall swing pattern is more a smile pattern, rather than a gasquet style C pattern, which i think is more difficult
Yeah, just look at the OP. It seems that anyone who hits a 1HBH nowadays is "Federer", haha! It's just a backhand, guys, it's not really anything out of this world.
True, most people who see someone with a 1hbh (same grip) and a fluid stroke, think they have federer like backhands.
i think thats because the most noticeable part of the swing is the follow through.. once the arm flings up into the air, it surely is federer like
What do you guys mean by smile pattern and c pattern?
Also, i was taught a different finish to take it up the line rather than cc. Do you agree?
"Federer style one handed backhand"? Fed uses the classic one handed backhand technique, it's really not specific to him.
if you trace the path of the racquet on the takeback for the smile pattern, its more like a U, where as guys like gasquet traces a path thats in the shape of a C
if you trace the path of the racquet on the takeback for the smile pattern, its more like a U, where as guys like gasquet traces a path thats in the shape of a C
.. but I don't think it is a wristy as Federer's... .
federer DOES NOT have a "wristy" backhand, no matter how many times commentators say it is.
You can also look at it like this:
U: Bring the racquet below the ball to start your takeback. That is the classical style for both 1HBH and 2HBH.
C: Bring the racquet above the ball to start your takeback. That gives you a BH with a big loop, a la Gasquet and Henin.
I think you explained it better
I dont think i use the C method, but i keep the racquet above the ball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KVgCOmkiVA
I dont think i use the C method, but i keep the racquet above the ball
You use the C. (And RoddickAce, I think you do too.) Actually, I think Federer does as well.
Of course, your swing doesn't look like Gasquet. That's because your forward swing is still a fairly traditional, down-to-up motion (though you do open up a little bit more than what a classic smile-pattern stroke.) As a result, your C takeback is smaller (reflecting that your shoulder doesn't turn as much.)
Part of it is visualization. If you visualize that you'll swing across your body, as if you're drawing a sword, then your C-takeback will become much larger (reflecting a bigger shoulder turn.) It will look more like Gasquet.
It's actually a WW-style backhand (where your body opens up a lot.) Which is a key point I want to make. You can use this takeback for either a traditional finish or a WW-style finish, just like you can use a loop in your FH and go either over-the-shoulder or a WW-style finish. As you know, depending on your finish, that affects the size of the takeback.Is there a benefit to a larger C-takeback, thus swinging across the body more?
Exactly. Not sure what everyone means here.
Fed uses a standard eastern grip on his backhand. big deal. This isn't exclusive to him. And he doesn't have a "floppy" wrist, or snap it, etc.
Federer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQpBaCnVYbE
Drakulie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syp_nZ8N-Jk
You use the C. (And RoddickAce, I think you do too.) Actually, I think Federer does as well.
Of course, your swing doesn't look like Gasquet. That's because your forward swing is still a fairly traditional, down-to-up motion (though you do open up a little bit more than what a classic smile-pattern stroke.) As a result, your C takeback is smaller (reflecting that your shoulder doesn't turn as much.)
Part of it is visualization. If you visualize that you'll swing across your body, as if you're drawing a sword, then your C-takeback will become much larger (reflecting a bigger shoulder turn.) It will look more like Gasquet.
At the end of the day, footwork is the most important thing.
yep.. though i think my step out still isnt right
Email me and we can go through it.
Aimr -- I followed up. Might have another one coming tonight.
His one hander is a pretty advanced motion. He really uses a lot of wrist. The way he takes the racket back with the head pointing directly into the air, I think it's better to emulate somebody like Scheng Schalken. You can start making it more complicated and whippy as you progress.Who else in here uses Federer's One-Hand Backhand style?