James Blake has THREE racquets left!

OrangeOne

Legend
...so why do you need 10? ;)

Read this in another thread. Amazing. Figured it's worth a thread of it's own.

http://www.bnpparibasopen.org/News/...pts/Extra-Column/James-Blake-First-Round.aspx

Q. Kind of a tough situation if I have it right with your racquets. What's up? What's happening?
JAMES BLAKE: Oh, man. I don't know. I don't even it would be too long of a story to get into. My racquets feel great right now. I don't have that many of them left, so I'm hoping that I can find a way to get more of them and find someone that can make a racquet exactly the way I like it.
It seems like I think it's just the modernization of the game that the racquets that are being made now don't feel the same as the ones when I started on tour. When I started, I think it was different materials. Using different materials, to me, feels a little more hollow, tinny. I guess the materials that are used are lighter and more powerful. For me it just doesn't it doesn't have the same feel. I never thought I was picky about racquets until I went through this situation where I'm trying to find one that's just like mine, and no one has been able to do it.
I'm really looking forward to putting this behind me and hopefully someone being able to make a racquet that I can use. We'll see if that happens soon.
Q. Do you treat your racquets sort of like a Stradivarius?
JAMES BLAKE: Yes, I do. They get treated very well nowadays. I don't want any of them breaking. You won't see me throwing racquets. I might hit a ball, I might yell and scream, but I'm not going to be throwing racquets. It will be a weird feeling, because I haven't done that for a long time, to be able to have a bad practice and actually smash a racquet, because I haven't done that in years.



Q. They just can't find the right materials?
JAMES BLAKE: Um, yeah, I think that's what it is. You know, I'm I just go by what it feels like, and, you know, all the racquet technicians and the people at Dunlop and any other companies, they tell me what their opinions are and everything. They've got this material in it and this stiffness and this swing weight and this and that, and, you know, all I go by is what it feels like.
I put in it in my hand, and if it doesn't feel good and I don't feel like I can compete with it, then that's all I go by. In my gut it feels like it's the material. They can make it the same weight, same balance, the same mold, the same everything. But if it doesn't feel the same, I only my only possibility in my head is that it's the material.

Q. How many do you have? How many racquets do you have left?
JAMES BLAKE: Not enough. I got three.


Q. Really?
JAMES BLAKE: Yep.


Q. You need to take a different racquet on the side, so if you want to smash it you can walk over...
JAMES BLAKE: I'd feel a little silly to do that. I'll leave that to the juniors. I used to do that when I was about 14, 15 years old.

Q. When you say it doesn't feel right, what is it that doesn't feel right?
JAMES BLAKE: I think the new material feels hollow, like tinny, and so it doesn't it's hard to describe. That's another problem is because I have a tough time articulating exactly what it is.
But the ball, it feels like it jumps off, and then it still it still doesn't fly out. Like some of the ones that have a lot of power, when I hit it solid, with my racquet I feel like I hit it solid and it's going to drop down in the court, with the new material I feel like it goes a little further out and goes flying out.
It's a material that to me it feels like it still jumps off. I don't have to create all my own pace, but it still dips down and has that spin that adds to it. I'm sure it's a tough combination for a company to make, and I'm finding that it's really, really tough for them to make.

Q. Where does the string fit into this?
JAMES BLAKE: The string, I've been using Luxilon since 2002 probably, and that's to me, it doesn't get any better than that.
Until someone puts a string in my hand that convinces me hands down it's better... Because I still remember the first day I used Luxilon. I put it on my racquet and I said, I'm switching. There was no doubt about it. It's so much better, and it feels it just feels so good.
Because you can swing hard and it and the ball, just it grabs. The string grabs it. And I've said it before. I think that's been the biggest change in the game in the last 15, 20 years. The reason for sort of the death of the serve and volleyers is you're absolutely able to rip those returns with this string and you're able to put it down at people's feet so much easier. You're able to control the ball with power better than you can with, in my opinion, any other string.
So until someone can show me something that feels better than that, I don't see myself changing string.

Q. Back to the racquet for one second. Barring a fit of destructive anger, do they have a life? I mean, do you find after a certain period of time they get a little dead or...
JAMES BLAKE: Yeah, well, they do start deadening, which is another issue, because I've been playing with these for so long that they've changed from when I first used them. So that's another issue where they have to try to make them as if they've been broken in, and so that's tough.
But they eventually their life span probably isn't that much longer, because more than just deadening, they actually break without me doing anything outside of normal play.


Q. They crack?
JAMES BLAKE: The last one that I had that broke was last year in Paris, and that was a bad day. I was just warming up and hitting returns, and I took a swing at a forehand and it hit the top of the frame and the throat just cracked. I wasn't too happy about that. It was a bad day.


Q. You travel around the circuit with three racquets?
JAMES BLAKE: Yep.

Q. Did you play Memphis with them or a different frame?
JAMES BLAKE: I played Memphis. That was the first tournament this year I played with them.

Q. You played Australia with a different frame?
JAMES BLAKE: Yeah.


Q. Was the brand W?
JAMES BLAKE: Ah, it was a different racquet.

Q. You're carrying more racquets than the three, right? You're carrying something you don't care for?
JAMES BLAKE: Yeah, I'm carrying some backups just in case. But, you know, I plan on using those three.
 

drakulie

Talk Tennis Guru
Part of the problem for him is that he is getting so used to "broken in" frames, that it will be nearly impossible for any manufacturer to replicate that feel.
 

ChevyTennis

Banned
I think its all in his head. But still cool nonetheless that he's down to 3 of them. I hope he finds what he's looking for.
 

Zefer

Rookie
I think he might be getting over paranoid about this. Perhaps he is just over-analysing every aspect of the new frames and because he knows they are different, he doesn't feel comfortable with them. Not so much an issue with the new technology, just the fact he knows it's not identical.
Hopefully he'll sort this out before the last of the frames break; I really think it's purely a problem with the idea of a new frame, more than feel though. He just needs to break a load of new ones in and get used to it. :)

By the way, this proves no one on TW need 10 of the same frame. :p If you can survive on the ATP with 3, then you can survive on the club/county circut with 3.
 

schap02

Semi-Pro
Kind of weird that he can't find a simple mold and then have someone like P1 customize the frame to fit the exact specs of the ones he is using, I mean can it honestly be that hard for manufacturers to figure out the materials used and replicate something close?

BTW - Downs_Chris, love your sig...
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
...I mean can it honestly be that hard for manufacturers to figure out the materials used and replicate something close?

Unless....the material his racquets are made from is no longer available, which is what I read in the interview.

Apparently, he has run out of his "stock" which were made for him. Dunlop has tried to replicate the frame apparently with new materials and has been unable to replicate the feel of the original frame. I really don't see this as that far fetched.

I did see Roddick/Blake play Murray/Hutchison in doubles on the Tennis Channel and Blake is still carrying a Dunlop bag which implies that he is still working with them. If you noticed, Blake also refused to name the "other" racquet he tried.

Blake tried in the past to change endorsements as evidenced by his deal with Prince. He wound up back with Dunlop. I think Blake is being honest with his predicament and the graphite has just changed enough that it doesn't feel right to him.
 

downs_chris

Professional
Kind of weird that he can't find a simple mold and then have someone like P1 customize the frame to fit the exact specs of the ones he is using, I mean can it honestly be that hard for manufacturers to figure out the materials used and replicate something close?

BTW - Downs_Chris, love your sig...

haha...thanks -- nice avatar! i'm guessing you play with the PSLGT too?
 

JRstriker12

Hall of Fame
WOW! Good interview.

Tough spot for Blake, he's used to a racquet that they don't make anymore and I doubt the manufacturers are going to move heaven and earth to suit him at this stage in his career.

Maybe it's in his head? One racquet maker should tell him they found the super secret formula for his old sticks, set them up to the same specs and see what happens.

I wonder if any other pro on tour is in this situation???
 

Shangri La

Hall of Fame
When Blake weighs his racquets to 14+oz, 400+sw, and strings them at 70+lbs, he's going to realize that he needs 20+ racquets.

O.O
 

BDAZ

Hall of Fame
hasn't it been said in other threads that the quality of the graphite used these days is not as good as in the past? maybe this is what blake is detecting in the newer frames. not to say that he's so in tune that he can tell the difference in graphite quality, but something along those lines.
 
hasn't it been said in other threads that the quality of the graphite used these days is not as good as in the past? maybe this is what blake is detecting in the newer frames. not to say that he's so in tune that he can tell the difference in graphite quality, but something along those lines.

Interesting thought. So James's frames are older graphites? The Hotmelts?

Cheers,

Greek Goliath
 

athiker

Hall of Fame
Interesting, thanks for posting. You don't read that stuff directly from players too often. I would lean towards at this point its just going to be hard for anyone to make a new racquet that feels like his broken in racquets. Even if someone made a racquet just like the ones he has, he wouldn't think they would "feel" right at this point!
 
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Deleted member 25923

Guest
Maybe no manufacturers see it as a worthwhile investment to make him the kind of frames he wants. I'm sure they could actually get the materials.
 
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decades

Guest
why doesn't jame try out some of the sticks all the many players ranked above him use?
 

Raiha

Rookie
I'm a huge Blake fan and was really hoping for him to make a comeback this year, but interviews like that make me doubt that it will happen. He's questioning his equipment way too much, to the point where he's wearing cage I's with the nike logos ripped off. fila must love that.

but the three frames he has left are EU tiger frames, right? i think that was the consensus i remember from the old blake racket thread.
 

HookEmJeff

Semi-Pro
I'm a huge Blake fan and was really hoping for him to make a comeback this year, but interviews like that make me doubt that it will happen. He's questioning his equipment way too much, to the point where he's wearing cage I's with the nike logos ripped off. fila must love that.

but the three frames he has left are EU tiger frames, right? i think that was the consensus i remember from the old blake racket thread.

I have to say I'm pretty picky about my equipment, too, especially shoes and racquet grip sizes (and women, too!), so I understand finicky-ness. I'm right there with ya JB.

I can usually find about a pair of shoes I like per year (I'm a Nike ***** so they usually make one I can play in per year). I typically try to buy a couple as soon as I find something I like.

Those shoes JB had on tonight against Almagro...obvious Nike Breathe blue and white Cage's. Why even bother ripping off the logo ---everyone knows what those are!

Still, I would think a pro could pick up a new stick and, with about a week's worth of hitting, be pretty comfortable with it. I know those guys are extremely fine-tuned with their sticks and tension.

Tsonga went from Wilson to Babolat and hasn't really had too much of a dropoff. Djokovic switched sticks, Agassi did it a couple of times.

I think it's mental and that's the tougher battle to fight. JB might be getting in his own way these days if that's the case. I sure hope not. I really love his athleticism and shot making and hope he can stay around for as long as those three old sticks hold up!

On another topic, I can't wait to see the day when people "paintjob" their clothes.

Jeff
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
Maybe no manufacturers see it as a worthwhile investment to make him the kind of frames he wants. I'm sure they could actually get the materials.

Most likely not. Tennis is just one business group among many that shares the carbon graphite sheets/processes currently used in mfg.
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
hasn't it been said in other threads that the quality of the graphite used these days is not as good as in the past?

The opposite is true.

In the case of the new BLX raquets the basalt is actually a cheaper and lesser quality material than carbon graphite sheets. Now, how much basalt base material is used in Wilson's racquets? No idea.
 

niktub

Professional
Would anybody have a pic of the Dunlop Revelation Tour 95(Asia-Pacific version?),similar mold as Haas Berdych Blake?
Does it even exist?Thanks in advance.
 

niktub

Professional
Thank you
Would anybody have a pic of the Dunlop Revelation Tour 95(Asia-Pacific version?),similar mold as Haas Berdych Blake?
Does it even exist?Thanks in advance.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I hit with a Rev200 sometimes and the feel is incredible. I think Blake is so used to those classic Dunlop Pro molds, or Tiger/Tecnifibre frames..whatever he uses, they are all real solid and flexy graphite. I can completely relate to what he is is saying because the newer sticks do not have that feel.

Ironically, the 4D200 for me recaptured a lot of that classic feel, and I wonder if he won't end up with a more flexible version of that.
 
Since James mold is from Tyger (or so i've heard on these boards) why can't he just contact them directly? I mean, they are still making racquets based off that mold (Exel Drive C20, same headsize and all).
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Since James mold is from Tyger (or so i've heard on these boards) why can't he just contact them directly? I mean, they are still making racquets based off that mold (Exel Drive C20, same headsize and all).

I don't think that's the problem. In the interview, Blake indicated that they are using the same mold, producing the same flex, same swing weight, static weight, etc... But, the materials they are using do not produce the same feel. Ergo, the old materials may not be available any more...
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
I hit with a Rev200 sometimes and the feel is incredible. I think Blake is so used to those classic Dunlop Pro molds, or Tiger/Tecnifibre frames..whatever he uses, they are all real solid and flexy graphite. I can completely relate to what he is is saying because the newer sticks do not have that feel.

Ironically, the 4D200 for me recaptured a lot of that classic feel, and I wonder if he won't end up with a more flexible version of that.

How do you get in touch with this guy? Have a new Revelation 200G collecting dust.
 

ChevyTennis

Banned
Maybe my logic is flawed here, but isn't part of the problem according to James himself is the feel of the new racquets. He's playing with old frames that have been broken in and probably feel nowhere close to what they played like in the beginning. So even if he was able to get sticks to the same specs they would take time to break and have the same feel to them, would they not?
I think the main issue is inside his head (epecially after watching his relentless back and forth with with chair umpire last night at IW.)
 

Orion

Semi-Pro
"I've got five people inside of me, all trying to be free" And only have a racquet for three

Pretty funny.

OP nice find on the interview. One one hand nice to hear him being so candid and the funny thing is that there has been a shift in the manufacturing processes. There was a poster The Expert that apparently was a Head insider but was run off the board. I for one am curious as to what the rationale has been for the change in feel of frames. There is a distinct difference in the crispness of classic players frames. I can only surmise that it boils down to economics and finding cheaper materials that statistically perform as well.

Just when The Expert was getting into technical racquet developments, everything he was posting was being refuted and disputed by a few people who obviously didn't posses the technical insight he was privy to. Needless to say I haven't seen him on in the past month. On one hand Blake is onto something, but he's gotta move past it and find something close to right.
 
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