Any Feedback on the "NEW" Max Touch?
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mikeler
Moderator
The softness is what I like about this string, so hopefully it does not change a whole bunch. I suppose I can handle a little extra stiffness if the durability improves.
parasailing
Legend
So everyone is referring to Max Touch as the Pro Supex Maxim Touch?
If so, where did you guys purchase this from since TW does not carry it.
If so, where did you guys purchase this from since TW does not carry it.
parasailing
Legend
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
I just strung up a Youtek Prestige Pro with the new Maxim Touch. 17 gauge at 63 lbs. DT= 42.
String looks the slightest bit different. Barely noticeable. As for the feel of the string,,,, feels the same (soft vs stiff) . One difference is it doesn't feel as "oliy" as the older version, which makes it easier to string, as it doesn't slide on your fingers when weaving.
Will post thoughts on how it plays after tomorrow night.
String looks the slightest bit different. Barely noticeable. As for the feel of the string,,,, feels the same (soft vs stiff) . One difference is it doesn't feel as "oliy" as the older version, which makes it easier to string, as it doesn't slide on your fingers when weaving.
Will post thoughts on how it plays after tomorrow night.
The Dampener
Professional
Just played the new stuff, 17 gauge, strung at 52 lbs., on my Aerogel 100.
Ugh.
I hope I'm wrong about this, but the string just didn't seem as lively as the old stuff. I'm not sure "stiff" is the word I'm looking for. Maybe "sluggish." I was laboring to hit my usual shots, and I noticed it primarily on the serve and fending of body shots.
Who knows? Maybe I was having a bad night. Maybe the new stuff needs a little more break in. But I didn't get the usual friendly feel I've always gotten from the old MT.
I'll post more on second review.
Ugh.
I hope I'm wrong about this, but the string just didn't seem as lively as the old stuff. I'm not sure "stiff" is the word I'm looking for. Maybe "sluggish." I was laboring to hit my usual shots, and I noticed it primarily on the serve and fending of body shots.
Who knows? Maybe I was having a bad night. Maybe the new stuff needs a little more break in. But I didn't get the usual friendly feel I've always gotten from the old MT.
I'll post more on second review.
mikeler
Moderator
Dang, I'm not liking that initial review. I love how MT adds power to a flexible control oriented frame.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Most people don't characterise MT as a string that "adds power".
The Dampener
Professional
My second hit was more positive.
Admittedly, I was playing a bit better. I think the break in may have helped. Maybe it was all in my mind. Still, as of now, I prefer the old version. It just had that soft yet lively feel I'm used to.
I compared two frames during a changeover, one strung with the new 17 with about two hours of play, and one strung with the old 17 with about 7-8 hours of play. The old stuff appeared off-white, slightly opaque, with little wear. The new stuff looked yellowish, translucent and, get this, had very minor fraying in the sweet spot. Weird.
Still don't have enough court time to make truly objective assessment. So I'm very much looking forward to hearing from the rest of you. Please chime in when you can.
Damp
mikeler
Moderator
mikeler
Moderator
Hmm, the old MT has never frayed on me. That is a pet peeve of mine with string. Again, not liking the initial comments.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
I had my first hit last night with the new MT. Head Microgel Prestige Pro, string at 63 lbs (17 gauge).
I had a somewhat similar experience. String felt very good, but did not seem/feel as lively as the original version, and I would agree that it felt a bit "sluggish", as Dampener pointed out. I wasn't laboring as dampener experienced, and felt it provided the great control, spin, and pop of the original. I'm hoping, like dampener, I have a better second hit with the string.
One other thing I want to point out is I did an ERT reading of the string bed after stringing and got a 42 reading. Before I took it out for a hit yesterday (approx 24 hours later), I got the same reading. After my hit that lasted one hour, I again got the same reading (42). So, no tension loss.
The Dampener
Professional
drak,
Was the absence of tension loss similar or dissimilar to your experience with the old stuff? And do your readings suggest that we might want to string the new stuff a tad lower?
It's funny how you should point that out. During my first encounter with the string, it didn't feel like the string was breaking-in that much and I was trying to soften the string bed up by lightly stepping on it.
Damp
PS - Plan to get in more hitting on the new MT this weekend. More to come...
Was the absence of tension loss similar or dissimilar to your experience with the old stuff? And do your readings suggest that we might want to string the new stuff a tad lower?
It's funny how you should point that out. During my first encounter with the string, it didn't feel like the string was breaking-in that much and I was trying to soften the string bed up by lightly stepping on it.
Damp
PS - Plan to get in more hitting on the new MT this weekend. More to come...
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
^^Agreed. Fact that it didn't feel like it was "breaking in", could have been a contributing factor to not feeling as "lively".
After getting back home and checking the DT, I was thinking I may want to lower the tension a bit for my next re-string.
I'll know more tonight.
After getting back home and checking the DT, I was thinking I may want to lower the tension a bit for my next re-string.
I'll know more tonight.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Maybe true for those of you that still have the old... The new version doesn't sound so bad though. I only use it as a cross, so if there is less power for a little more durability while still being soft, I'll take that.
mikeler
Moderator
If you could pick up a couple of reels of the old or new, which would you go for?
Still waiting on the new stuff to arrive, but have someone who wants to sell couple of reels of the old.
The Dampener
Professional
Except that the old stuff is hard to come by.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
The old for sure.
The new stuff is good too. After playing with it for the last few days, it has broken in nicely and feeling very good. Still not as crisp as the old, but not by much.
The Dampener
Professional
Mine is fraying as it wears, kinda like NXT. Is yours fraying, too, Drak?
I never got that with the old stuff. It would just pop on me.
I never got that with the old stuff. It would just pop on me.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
IceNineTX
Semi-Pro
Hmm, the old MT has never frayed on me. That is a pet peeve of mine with string. Again, not liking the initial comments.
That's with a full bed of MT, right? I tried MT (old) in the crosses with Spin-X in the mains. The center of the bed became extremely frayed after a couple of hours. I really was liking how it was playing, so I'll try 16g and see how long it lasts. Below, you can see a frayed string and one below that snapped.
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The Dampener
Professional
Hi guys.
Here is a photo (pardon the quality) the new Maxim Touch 17 on the left and the old Maxim Touch 17 on the right. Both strung on AG 100s @ 52 lbs. Both have about the same court time logged.
If I'd used a camera with better resolution, you'd see how the new stuff breaks down differently.
I know that Pro Supex is calling this stuff "newly-fromulated." Does anyone know what that means. I'm wondering if the new stuff might be constructed a little differently as well.
Damp
Here is a photo (pardon the quality) the new Maxim Touch 17 on the left and the old Maxim Touch 17 on the right. Both strung on AG 100s @ 52 lbs. Both have about the same court time logged.
If I'd used a camera with better resolution, you'd see how the new stuff breaks down differently.
I know that Pro Supex is calling this stuff "newly-fromulated." Does anyone know what that means. I'm wondering if the new stuff might be constructed a little differently as well.
Damp
chiapants226
Professional
how is the power of the maxim touch, new and old versions compared to syn gut? say gosen og sheep micro?
Consigliere73
Rookie
@ The Dampener.
Wow. The new stuff seems to wear really badly. Alot of tension loss as well. They seem to have made it a bit too soft.....
Wow. The new stuff seems to wear really badly. Alot of tension loss as well. They seem to have made it a bit too soft.....
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Question for MT users - how do you suppose this stuff would fare in a hybrid with a poly main? I've got NRG2 in the cross of my setup right now (Kirschbaum P2 in the main at 59#, NRG2 in the cross at 61#) and it's solid, but I don't want to lay out the cash for a reel of NRG2 if I can avoid it, and it's moving a lot after 5 hours.
IceNineTX
Semi-Pro
As you can see from my post above, the old stuff probably won't get you 5 hours. It all depends on your stroke though. If the wear is similar, or worse as some are saying, I would not expect much. But I'd love to hear from anyone with this setup on the new formulation.
Being that I'm using an 18x20, I tend to kill strings tension-wise before I pop them - the NRG2 is pretty well worn, but still has life left. It's shot tension-wise though.
JT_2eighty
Hall of Fame
If you are looking for a good, soft alternative, have you tried Head Intellitour? It is extremely soft with great feel, pinpoint control, and quite low-powered. It's made of polyolefin ribbons, and when I put the RIP Feel in the mains, plays very consistently for a good 14-18 hours until it breaks, and it never frays due to its ribbon construction as opposed to multi-filament strands. Only a buck or two more than the Maxim T. It does tend to move around a lot, but it doesn't notch or fray like most other non-poly strings, especially when you reverse Head's suggested main/cross of this hybrid. The only string that is less-stiff than RIP Feel according to RSI is natural gut. I always have a backup with this in it for those days when comfort calls.
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IceNineTX
Semi-Pro
Good point. I do have to amend my test case a little as one of those hours with the MT crosses was doing a rapid forehand drill. I probably hit 400-500 in that hour. I hadn't thought about that until just now.
The Dampener
Professional
Is the tension loss your experience?
I haven't noticed it so much, but I'm not measuring. I actually like the string better as it breaks in a bit.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
In my one hit, I found the tension maintenance on this version to be much better than the older version.
Consigliere73
Rookie
@ drak
Your views about tension loss and wear seem to contradict Dampener's photos on the previous page.
@ drak + Dampener
Any consensus or agreement on this issue?
Your views about tension loss and wear seem to contradict Dampener's photos on the previous page.
@ drak + Dampener
Any consensus or agreement on this issue?
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
consig, here is the "mini-review" I did of the string. Although it did begin to fray afterwards, I didn't find it to be that much more magnified than the original. However, the tension maintenance was much better that the original.
