Of the 4 GS Sites, the US Open must be the ugliest...

IlliniSky

Rookie
Every time the US Open rolls around, I always see shots of Arthur Ashe Stadium. And every time I think, is that the best they could do?! Rod Laver Arena, Wimbledon Centre Court and Roland Garros Stadium is so much better planned and beautifully set up. Arthur Ashe Stadium looks like they quit half way thru. Does anybody else ever think the same? Why is the US Open so aesthetically unappealing? Maybe this is what Americans like...
 

Devilito

Hall of Fame
Every time the US Open rolls around, I always see shots of Arthur Ashe Stadium. And every time I think, is that the best they could do?! Rod Laver Arena, Wimbledon Centre Court and Roland Garros Stadium is so much better planned and beautifully set up. Arthur Ashe Stadium looks like they quit half way thru. Does anybody else ever think the same? Why is the US Open so aesthetically unappealing? Maybe this is what Americans like...

America.. home of McMansions, cookie cutter suburbs and obnoxiously large automobiles. And you're surprised? Their design plan pretty much consisted of “how big can we make it to maximize profits”. There is zero architectural artistry involved.
 

Totai

Professional
I find arthur ashe stadium to be very impressive. The steepness of the stands looks great and bears down on the players. What about it don't you like exactly?
 

Pink_Shirt

Rookie
AO use to have the worst looking venue. That horrible green court? Out of all 4 of the GS, I want to say French Open needs the biggest improvement. Come on, nasty teal colors on that bright red clay? Looks like it hasn't been changed from the 70's (it really hasn't). They need to modernize that Slam.
 

polski

Semi-Pro
Every time the US Open rolls around, I always see shots of Arthur Ashe Stadium. And every time I think, is that the best they could do?! Rod Laver Arena, Wimbledon Centre Court and Roland Garros Stadium is so much better planned and beautifully set up. Arthur Ashe Stadium looks like they quit half way thru. Does anybody else ever think the same? Why is the US Open so aesthetically unappealing? Maybe this is what Americans like...

Yeah, Rolland Garros is so well planned out that they are going to have to move the site in the next few years.

Ashe & Laver are modern stadiums. Centre Court & Phillipe are classic stadiums. It's apples to oranges and comes down to personal preference. It's impossible to design a modern/classic stadium.
 

polski

Semi-Pro
AO use to have the worst looking venue. That horrible green court? Out of all 4 of the GS, I want to say French Open needs the biggest improvement. Come on, nasty teal colors on that bright red clay? Looks like it hasn't been changed from the 70's (it really hasn't). They need to modernize that Slam.

ummmm... the USO had that same green court at the exact same time.
 

Grass_for_cows

Semi-Pro
America.. home of McMansions, cookie cutter suburbs and obnoxiously large automobiles. And you're surprised? Their design plan pretty much consisted of “how big can we make it to maximize profits”. There is zero architectural artistry involved.

Because New York basically has no architectural artistry, right? Whereas places like Coventry, UK, or Frankfurt, Germany, don't have any ugly suburbs.
 

Devilito

Hall of Fame
Because New York basically has no architectural artistry, right? Whereas places like Coventry, UK, or Frankfurt, Germany, don't have any ugly suburbs.

the entire thread is about the stadium yet you bring up New York City. Amazing :rolleyes: It's a whole new level of ignorance for you
 

Gaudio2004

Semi-Pro
Well I've been to Wimbledon and yes it's brilliant (the style, class of spectators/players, design, etc) but nothing, not RG or AO included, come close to US Open night matches. so call it ugly, but when you focus on the court at night, the US Open produces some unbelievable tennis, im talking about agassi vs blake, agassi vs baghdatis, gasquet vs hewitt, etc..
 

abraxas21

Professional
arthur ashe stadium is a cesspool anyway

so big that the spectators up in the sky can't distinguish ivo karlovic from sam stosur
 

Tennis_Monk

Hall of Fame
In terms of architecture, Arthur Ashe stadium is very good.
In terms of audience experience overall, USO is crappiest as far as i am concerned. Just made my annual trip and it is as ugly as it needed to be. Should have sold my tickets --could have been worth 300$ a pop.
 

Dgpsx7

Professional
Arthur Ashe stadium is actually built in a really smart way. Despite how large it is there is still a good view even in 300 level seating. I have no complains.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
You design a building mindful of its surroundings. Ashe Stadium is a brick facade in a borough (Queens) of brick rowhouses. Bordered on one side by grungy railroad yards, it would not lend itself to a very modern or avant garde design. That it seats about 5000 too many people for watching tennis is undeniable.
 

Defcon

Hall of Fame
AO - designed to be fan friendly

FO - designed to be French (easy access to haute cuisine), and eccentric

Wimby - designed to be pure class

USO - desgined to maximize ad space and be as commercial as possible
 

chaddles

Semi-Pro
I am curious about large American sporting venues and their lack of cover over stands.. They build large and impressive football stadiums without a roof for spectators, and Arthur Ashe is the same - just doesn't look right.

Having been to the Aus Open a few times and comparing it to other venues (pics, maps and other peoples POV), it looks like it is the most impressive layout of them all and the most friendly spectator experience.
 

IlliniSky

Rookie
I am curious about large American sporting venues and their lack of cover over stands.. They build large and impressive football stadiums without a roof for spectators, and Arthur Ashe is the same - just doesn't look right.

Having been to the Aus Open a few times and comparing it to other venues (pics, maps and other peoples POV), it looks like it is the most impressive layout of them all and the most friendly spectator experience.

I agree. The Australian Open is the most impressive of the four. I'd say Wimbledon too but that grass court at the end of two weeks is just bad.
 

Baikalic

Semi-Pro
In terms of architecture, Arthur Ashe stadium is very good.
In terms of audience experience overall, USO is crappiest as far as i am concerned. Just made my annual trip and it is as ugly as it needed to be. Should have sold my tickets --could have been worth 300$ a pop.

Can you go into more detail? Why is the experience crappy?
 

polski

Semi-Pro
I am curious about large American sporting venues and their lack of cover over stands.. They build large and impressive football stadiums without a roof for spectators, and Arthur Ashe is the same - just doesn't look right.
We do like to make sure our fans get a nice sunburn, I guess. It probably has a lot to do with costs. I assume the thinking is - Why spend the extra few million dollars to build an awning for the fans if the stadium is going to fill up anyways?

However, there are several baseball stadiums that do have awnings. And a couple football stadiums (Dallas/Phoenix) have retractable roofs now.
 

Sakkijarvi

Semi-Pro
Quibble, quibble

I agree that the view from the 300 seating at Ashe is not ideal for tennis. Far from it. But really, any large sports venue, sell-outs, standing room only crowds, on the night of an important game or match... is about being there and being part of the experience, the roar of the crowd, supporting your team with your voice. This is not something baseball, football and NASCAR fans would quibble about.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Having sat ONCE near the top of Ashe, I would say that you're NOT really part of the experience as you can barely see what's happening and barely perceive the emotions of the players. The analogy to baseball, football and NASCAR is self defeating as those events do not occur on a stage 78 feet long.
 

ashitaka2010

Semi-Pro
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I just love all the colors...
 

Raphael

Semi-Pro
As much as people rave about how great the facility is at the USOpen, I much preferred the old layout.

Sure, it was a smaller stadium and the grounds were not as commercially minded (What the commentators call "fan friendly"), but it was intimate and made for a great day or night out at the Open.
 
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