Serena and Venus' mother blasts Kim Clijsters

The Race Card!

Posted like a true Williamsphiles.

The WTA, tennis, sports and the world in general will be 10x the better when The Williams sisters hang up their size 16 tennis skirts. They bring the sport into disrepute every time they walk onto the court.

Honey, you bring HUMANITY into disrepute every time you open your pie trap.
 
It is ludicrous to suggest Oracene cannot have an opinion. The issue here for some people is she had the guts to make her opinion public. Oracene doesn't have to like Clijsters and quite frankly that is Oracene's opinion. She has a right to speak her mind about the other players on the WTA Tour. Oracene knows a lot more about the WTA than fans on a tennis website.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
It is ludicrous to suggest Oracene cannot have an opinion. The issue here for some people is she had the guts to make her opinion public. Oracene doesn't have to like Clijsters and quite frankly that is Oracene's opinion. She has a right to speak her mind about the other players on the WTA Tour.

Right, everyone can have an opinion, freedom of speech, right? And everyone has the right to judge her character. To many folks, that was a stupid move by her mother b/c her daughters loss some fans. Even anyone who know little tennis understand Kim is a great for the game, hear nothing but good things being said about her. Oracene’s insults can only proved that she hate Kim b/c she’s a proven winner and a role model, robbed her daughter’s spot light, insecure of Kim getting too popular, never get over the past when Kim eliminate her daughters at the slam(since kim became a mother).

Smart people don’t make tragic mistake like Oracene just did. Take a look at the parents of Nadal and Federer. Their rivalry is intense, either one of them is either #1 and the other has to settle #2. And yet, the parents don’t talk trash about the other player. In fact, they appreciate the rivalry, respect one’s win or loss, congratulate the winner, shake hands and even gave hug after the match. That’s classy and educated people. Oracene cannot even compared to Fed/Nadal parents’ pinky! Had Federer’s parents ever said something that half as bad as Oracene, I would be very disappointed. I feel sorry for the Serena fans.

Oracene knows a lot more about the WTA than fans on a tennis website.

NONSENSE. Even if it's true that Oracene knows more, that doesn't warrant for talking wreckless toward another player. She's just another person..what she say can be judged against her. Sorry, I have no respect for her.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
Right, everyone can have an opinion, freedom of speech, right? And everyone has the right to judge her character. To many folks, that was a stupid move by her mother b/c her daughters loss some fans. Even anyone who know little tennis understand Kim is a great for the game, hear nothing but good things being said about her. Oracene’s insults can only proved that she hate Kim b/c she’s a proven winner and a role model, robbed her daughter’s spot light, insecure of Kim getting too popular, never get over the past when Kim eliminate her daughters at the slam(since kim became a mother).

Smart people don’t make tragic mistake like Oracene just did. Take a look at the parents of Nadal and Federer. Their rivalry is intense, either one of them is either #1 and the other has to settle #2. And yet, the parents don’t talk trash about the other player. In fact, they appreciate the rivalry, respect one’s win or loss, congratulate the winner, shake hands and even gave hug after the match. That’s classy and educated people. Oracene cannot even compared to Fed/Nadal parents’ pinky! Had Federer’s parents ever said something that half as bad as Oracene, I would be very disappointed. I feel sorry for the Serena fans.



NONSENSE. Even if it's true that Oracene knows more, that doesn't warrant for talking wreckless toward another player. She's just another person..what she say can be judged against her. Sorry, I have no respect for her.

Excellent post, with the facts laid out so simple even some of the slower posters here can understand.
 

dlk

Hall of Fame
Agreed. OD only lives to spread fringe Right propaganda with no bearing on reality. His avatar seals that judgement.

:confused:What does this mean? Bush is behind the or against the Williams? Or is he for or against Kim?:confused: Let's move on to French Open prediction threads.
 
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Smart people don’t make tragic mistake like Oracene just did. Take a look at the parents of Nadal and Federer. Their rivalry is intense, either one of them is either #1 and the other has to settle #2. And yet, the parents don’t talk trash about the other player. In fact, they appreciate the rivalry, respect one’s win or loss, congratulate the winner, shake hands and even gave hug after the match. That’s classy and educated people. Oracene cannot even compared to Fed/Nadal parents’ pinky! Had Federer’s parents ever said something that half as bad as Oracene, I would be very disappointed. I feel sorry for the Serena fans.

how hard would it be to understand something as basic as this
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
:confused:What does this mean? Bush is behind the or against the Williams? Or is he for or against Kim?:confused: Let's move on to French Open prediction threads.

Don't try to make any sense out of this guy, he is so far in liberal la la land that there is no coming back.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Kim is a solid player to be sure, but your Williams hatred is (again) leading to more posted turds. Kim barely won a single slam in 2010, while SW won two--her AO count moved up to 5, and the Wimbledon count up to 4 titles, thus adding more reasons why she's the most dominant WTA player of the decade...and her career is not over.

Pathetic you are. You quoted only part of my post to take it ouf of context, ignoring my point. I said since Kim return, she made Serena irrelevant. Apparently you have not watched the AO at all. The absent of Serena in down under hasn’t hurt tennis since Kim is there. This year AO was more exciting than last year AO(with Serena), but obviously not for blind Serena lover like yourself.
 
Why tweet anything at all if she dislikes her in private, its not like she had to, is it?

If anything we all know Serena is not the type to bite her tongue about whom she does and does not like, as evidenced by her comments on Henin, Jankovic, and Safina in the past. But her and Kim do seem to have a decent relationship. Again, not saying they are the best of friends, but if Serena legitimately didn't like Kim then she's not the type to be fake about it.
 
People seem to be upset because Oracene doesn`t like Clijsters. So big deal!

I agree with Oracene I find Clijsters to be extremely pretentious!

If Oracene said she liked Clijsters the haters would not care. But since Oracene

said she thinks Clijsters is dubious and a medusa people are upset.

Get a life and get off Oracene`s back!
 

Terre Battu

Rookie
People seem to be upset because Oracene doesn`t like Clijsters. So big deal!

I agree with Oracene I find Clijsters to be extremely pretentious!

If Oracene said she liked Clijsters the haters would not care. But since Oracene

said she thinks Clijsters is dubious and a medusa people are upset.

Get a life and get off Oracene`s back!

AMEN!!!!!!!!
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
:confused:What does this mean? Bush is behind the or against the Williams? Or is he for or against Kim?:confused: Let's move on to French Open prediction threads.

No one said Bush was behind anything. His avatar represents OD's Right Wing mentality, hence his posts in this thread.
 
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THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Pathetic you are.

Yes, you are pathetic...only I do not post in backwards language as you do.

Moving on, little boy:

You quoted only part of my post to take it ouf of context, ignoring my point. I said since Kim return, she made Serena irrelevant.

...and several members already criticized you for the same reason, as your post was desperate in its lies and fantasies...typical of your sad self.

Apparently you have not watched the AO at all. The absent of Serena in down under hasn’t hurt tennis since Kim is there.

No, it left the field "wide open" as Li Na stated to the ESPN AO crew, which means Serena (the most dominant AO champion of the decade) is so feared, her absense suddenly increased the chances of all other players--inlcuding Kim. Ahhh, but you are so blinded by your hooded hatred, you skipped over all of this.

It is no wonder your posts are so easy to pick apart.
 
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THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
People seem to be upset because Oracene doesn`t like Clijsters. So big deal!

In their minds, it is crime, since their true focus is on Oracene's younger daughter--who just happens to be the most successful WTA player of the decade...and not their propped-up frauds or overrated "greats" (such as Wozniacki, Sharapova, et al).
 

FedererBestTennis

Professional
Pathetic. Classic Oracene. Or classless should I say. She is just embarrassing her kids by doing that. Does she even care about tennis when Serena or Venus aren't playing?
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
People seem to be upset because Oracene doesn`t like Clijsters. So big deal!

I agree with Oracene I find Clijsters to be extremely pretentious!

If Oracene said she liked Clijsters the haters would not care. But since Oracene

said she thinks Clijsters is dubious and a medusa people are upset.

Get a life and get off Oracene`s back!

AMEN!!!!!!!!


It's a big deal. If her :shock:shocking:shock:, cruel, destructive comments means nothing(according to ********** like yourself and Thundervolley), it would haven't posted on the internet. In fact, Oracene's twitter is posted on yahoo sport website, the most widely visit site around the world !
http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=yhoo-ept_sports_ten_experts-313880

To this day, i'm still shocked !
Imagine how Kim feel like.
 

ksbh

Banned
Who gives a damn what that intellectually challenged family thinks! Not only do those sisters and their mother lack dress sense but they seem to be about as intelligent as a mouse in the kitchen!
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
No, it left the field "wide open" as Li Na stated to the ESPN AO crew, which means Serena (the most dominant AO champion of the decade) is so feared, her absense suddenly increased the chances of all other players--inlcuding Kim. Ahhh, but you are so blinded by your hooded hatred, you skipped over all of this.

It is no wonder your posts are so easy to pick apart.






You totally missed the point. It's not about Serena's chances against the field(e.g. KIm, Li). If you want to talk about your Serena's chance, that's another topic. The point is Serena is irrevalent in down under b/c no one miss her. Kim and the other players provided more entertaning than enough to need Serena. In fact, I would say this year final is WAY better than last year. I've already proved you wrong about IW and 2010 US open, where the event still gain wealth and popularity without Serena, and that was in US soil. Now imagine in Australia(half a world away), even an 18 years old Bernard Tomic is WAY more reconizable figure than Serena!

Let's look at the last 3 major events:

2011 Australian Open
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2010 Year-End-Championship
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2010 US Open
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Kim is in the league of her own right now. I can understand Oracene envy about Kim, but to lose her cool by insulting a well deserve sport icon is a classless, sore loser. Her daughters paid a price for her stupid action.
 
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sureshs

Bionic Poster
Clijsters always seemed like a fake to me - too much artificiality.

But that has nothing to do with Oracene Williams. Her remarks have their origin in the same roots as the remarks of those who regularly post hate threads about the Williams on this forum.
 
You totally missed the point. It's not about Serena's chances against the field(e.g. KIm, Li). If you want to talk about your Serena's chance, that's another topic. The point is Serena is irrevalent in down under b/c no one miss her. Kim and the other players provided more entertaning than enough to need Serena. In fact, I would say this year final is WAY better than last year. I've already proved you wrong about IW and 2010 US open, where the event still gain wealth and popularity without Serena, and that was in US soil. Now imagine in Australia(half a world away), even an 18 years old Bernard Tomic is WAY more reconizable figure than Serena!

How is the weather in Lalaland?
 

jdubbs

Hall of Fame
Now imagine in Australia(half a world away), even an 18 years old Bernard Tomic is WAY more reconizable figure than Serena!

Wow, a qualifier more recognizable than a multiple slam winner? That IS news. Tell us more :shock:
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
How is the weather in Lalaland?

If you believe last year AO(with Serena) is better than this year then that’s your opinion. I think this year is better despite no Serena. Schiavone & Kuznetsova was a classic match. This year final produces more quality tennis than last year. A returned Henin was not the same prime Henin when she played Serena in the final. WTA often being labeled as boring(compare to ATP), but this AO was a much improved. I’m happy for the WTA and so should all the fans.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Wow, a qualifier more recognizable than a multiple slam winner? That IS news. Tell us more :shock:

I’m strictly talking about the AO event. Tomic is a native Australian, a young talented player with a bright future. It’s not an usual for him receiving attention by fans coming from his own country. Serena is not playing thus not visible..how many time do Aussie fans talk about Serena? If you have been watching the AO, you would know.
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
Twitter seems to exist to enable people to make public views that should remain private (or to utter trivialities).

Well stated. I don't think anyone would suggest that the Williams Sisters' mother is not entitle to express an opinion; but it is a two way street. Say something dumb, you open yourself up to critizism.

With that said, I am not going to hold any bad will with anyone because their parents say.
 
Its not just Richard that's crazy, Oracene has lost it too!
Mother Marjorie thinks that Oracene Price has just been a little more muted than Richard, which is why some people are so surprised by her latest fit of Tourette's. However, she's always had it in her, and it comes out when any Belgian player begins winning grand slam events while her daughters rankings begin to fall.

Is anyone that watched the semifinals of the 2009 US Open when Serena threatened a lineswoman with bodily harm really surprised that Mama Oracene is calling Kim a "medusa"? Like Mother, like daughter.

See US Open 2007. Now January 2011.

Mother Marjorie Ann
Queen of Talk Tennis Warehouse
 
Mother Marjorie, I see Sigourney Weaver playing you in the movie version of Queen of TalkTennis Warehouse.

I'm thinking the movie will have a scene like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fORgFOtbiXo&playnext=1&list=PLA1BD10CFB7B5E6D7

Mother Marjorie (to Oracene): And, mom, now you're old. You got a plastic hip. And, I got the bat. Next... :)
Dear LDV,

Oh, Mother Marjorie just laughed out-loud. You somehow always seem to capture her essence! Mother Marjorie just loves you!

"Don't lie to me...I'll call her...." bwahahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmczkkw6OZI&feature=related

Mother Marjorie Ann
Queen of Talk Tennis Warehouse
 

jones101

Hall of Fame
Its funny how nobody posted Oracene's later comments, she obviously had some haters on Twitter and she explained herself: -

@cenduts Not enough space to fully explain what I meant. Had to do with me watching a certain match an joking about it

http://twitter.com/Oracene/status/31155429463556096

On if she was dissing Kim:

@cenduts Wasn't dissing Kim. She does thing on court that I been trying to get my girls to do. She gets it.

http://twitter.com/Oracene/status/31159151388262400

Someones Response

@oracene - If anyone looks like Medusa, it is you!

HER Response:

@jh7468 Don't care what you say about me. It was a joke stemming from a match with facial expressing on court when she was playing.

http://twitter.com/Oracene/status/31160240934232064


Oracene on her favourite WTA players (Beside Venus & Serena)

@Gemma_0910 Kim. Li. Kitova is go. Spelled her name wrong but she is the future if she stay healthy

http://twitter.com/Oracene/status/31161016347791360

@Gemma_0910 That's all I'm saying. Serena also have the muscle in her neck and I laugh. Not personal.

http://twitter.com/Oracene/status/31181746636587008




I dont think she is the monster a lot of you make her out to be.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
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Come on jones101. That’s a lame excuse from Oracene. There’s plenty of ways to make good jokes without offending other people. Calling someone a Medusa is no joke, but an insult. Oracene's explanation is a wrong approach to patch things up. I much rather see her call Kim on the phone(no text message!) and appologize to Kim(which i doubt it).
 
I dont think she is the monster a lot of you make her out to be.
Mother Marjorie challenges the tired heifer to take off her wig, post her pic, then call someone "Medusa".

Typical bad tennis parent...always living through their childrens success and attacking the competition at every turn. The sport will once again be dignified when people like her are absent.

Mother Marjorie Ann
Queen of Talk Tennis Warehouse
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
That is called "being a nice person".
It may be shocking, but some people are actually nice.

Nothing to do with being nice or not. It is about being artificial.

Listen to her answers and you will find something very artificial about them.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
You are spot-on!

All of my associates, who are tennis purists, are taken aback everytime Venus and Serena step onto the court.

The one and only upside with them in the draw is the fact they provide the tournament with an official foil.

Case in point, TLM!!!

How proud you must be to be in the company of 'the dunce from Texas' lover! He still wears white...
 

aceX

Hall of Fame
I think I'm on to something :)

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Whoa-oa-oa! I feel good, I knew that I would, now
I feel good, I knew that I would, now
So good, so good, I got you Kim!

Whoa! I feel nice, like sugar and spice
I feel nice, like Venus and Serena
So nice, so nice, I got you Kim!

lol too funny!!!!
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
my view is on this particular issue. Oracene going out of order in her comments.

you on the other hand have a clear intent. excusing the disgusting tweets and general behavious of the williams!





Kiddo my finely shaped derriere. you know nothing about my age our my personal views or opinions on these subjects. so you can have yourself a good dose of FU. fyi, Ashe, Chang, Washington and other non-caucasian players are among my favourites, so guess what.. it's not about race.

ps: my gf is black



i share no other opinions with OD 8or anyone else) than the not so kind opinion on the williams as a family, and i do it despite their race or religious choices. those have no matter in my opinion. in fact i find myself in the opposite spectrum of him!

fyi, i find any racial\sexual\religious slurr (or any aberrant position for that matter) disgusting independent of your "ranking" system.

have a nice one!

ps: sorry if my post is not very eloquent, but english is not my native language

Oh, so you only like minority players who tend to be submissive or at least quite non-threatening...

Theres no place for one that can dominate and be a little in your face or intimidating about it. I see...
 

li0scc0

Hall of Fame
Oh, so you only like minority players who tend to be submissive or at least quite non-threatening...

Theres no place for one that can dominate and be a little in your face or intimidating about it. I see...


And you seem to equate ANY criticism of an African-American player with the Ku Klux Klan.
It seems to me, THAT is true racism.
 
People say they are shocked that Oracene blasted Clijsters yet they aren't shocked at the racism and sexism Serena and Venus experience. No one seemed shocked when Venus was booed by the racist white Australian crowd after her injury at the 2011 Australian Open.

Oracene has seen a lot of racism against her daughters on the WTA from ex pros such as Martina Navratilova, Tracy Austin, Pam Shriver, Patrick and John McEnroe.

Oracene has also seen fake players like Clijsters if she says Clijsters is a medusa she's entitled to her opinion. If the haters are upset too bad.
Oracene isn't sweating it so why should you?
 

rovex

Legend
People say they are shocked that Oracene blasted Clijsters yet they aren't shocked at the racism and sexism Serena and Venus experience. No one seemed shocked when Venus was booed by the racist white Australian crowd after her injury at the 2011 Australian Open.

Oracene has seen a lot of racism against her daughters on the WTA from ex pros such as Martina Navratilova, Tracy Austin, Pam Shriver, Patrick and John McEnroe.

Oracene has also seen fake players like Clijsters if she says Clijsters is a medusa she's entitled to her opinion. If the haters are upset too bad.
Oracene isn't sweating it so why should you?

Here you perfectly demonstrate how delusional you are. I know for a fact Navratilova has praised Serena for her dominance and the new level physicality she brings to the sport.
 
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