Serena and Venus' mother blasts Kim Clijsters

Whatever, Navratilova has also made some obnoxious comments about the Williams Sisters over the years. I am not going to waste my time explaining to you to you to obvious. You need to do your research.
 

Soianka

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People say they are shocked that Oracene blasted Clijsters yet they aren't shocked at the racism and sexism Serena and Venus experience. No one seemed shocked when Venus was booed by the racist white Australian crowd after her injury at the 2011 Australian Open.

Oracene has seen a lot of racism against her daughters on the WTA from ex pros such as Martina Navratilova, Tracy Austin, Pam Shriver, Patrick and John McEnroe.

Oracene has also seen fake players like Clijsters if she says Clijsters is a medusa she's entitled to her opinion. If the haters are upset too bad.
Oracene isn't sweating it so why should you?

It's pretty simple, the people who claim to be so outraged and offended by the Williams sisters are most likely pretty racist themselves if this thread is any evidence.
 

Soianka

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Here you perfectly demonstrate how delusional you are. I know for a fact Navratilova has praised Serena for her dominance and the new level physicality she brings to the sport.


Actually Navratilova had been very negative about the Williams sisters early on.
 

Soianka

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This is what Mother Marjorie reminds me of:

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Buckethead

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This surprises me. Oracene has usually been incredibly level-headed, friendly, and diplomatic. I can't imagine how Clijsters is "dubious". Did something happen between any of the Williams and Clijsters?

The Williams family is racist, bogus, envious, overbearing and arrogant.
What happened was, Clijsters came back and destroyed them and therefore the Williams brothers and their parents got pi..d.
The Williams brother's father was the same one who said He was going to have a tennis academy only for blacks.
 
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li0scc0

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People say they are shocked that Oracene blasted Clijsters yet they aren't shocked at the racism and sexism Serena and Venus experience. No one seemed shocked when Venus was booed by the racist white Australian crowd after her injury at the 2011 Australian Open.

The crowd booed Venus for being black? They said "Venus, we hate you for being black"? Then they are racist.
Oh wait, that is not what happened!!!
Just because a black person is being criticized, that does not mean said criticism is racism. A person does not get a free pass solely for being non-white.
 

li0scc0

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It's pretty simple, the people who claim to be so outraged and offended by the Williams sisters are most likely pretty racist themselves if this thread is any evidence.

Ah, perfect. More proof that 'any criticism of a non-white = racism'.
Sad sad world we live in.
We must remember. We are NOT allowed to criticize ANYTHING about the Williams' family! Because that is, of course, racism!
 

dlk

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Ah, perfect. More proof that 'any criticism of a non-white = racism'.
Sad sad world we live in.
We must remember. We are NOT allowed to criticize ANYTHING about the Williams' family! Because that is, of course, racism!

At least we're "pretty."
 

Soianka

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Ah, perfect. More proof that 'any criticism of a non-white = racism'.
Sad sad world we live in.
We must remember. We are NOT allowed to criticize ANYTHING about the Williams' family! Because that is, of course, racism!

Talking about the mom's "wigs" and all of the other comments about her looks reveal pretty thinly veiled racism.

The extreme amount of hatred directed to some tennis players...is pretty telling.

The fact that you don't have a clue what racism is or means is also pretty typical and telling and tiresome.
 

Buckethead

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"The Madusah scare" sounds like a band playing the tent at Coachella, so I'm guessing Oracene means the Medusa stare, a reference to the mythological maiden who was robbed of her beauty by Athena and made so hideous that you turned to stone simply by looking at her face. That must mean Oracene either thinks Clijsters is ugly, has snakes for hair or will be beheaded by Perseus in an attempt to rescue his mother from the evil grips of King Polydectes. I'm guessing it's the third one.

Source: Yahoo Sports

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Oracene Price, mother of Venus and Serena Williams, is rooting for Li Na in Saturday's Australian Open final, both because she likes the idea of someone new winning a Slam and because she doesn't like the idea of Kim Clijsters winning one. During a succession of tweets on Thursday night, Oracene bashed Clijsters, calling her dubious and comparing her to the mythological beast, Medusa.

Somebody evidently tweeted her the answer and Oracene reveals she's pulling for Li Na. That works. I think I am too, if we're being honest. She then explains why:

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Madusah?? Has she completed elementary school?
I think she needs to look at the mirror or around her to see her daughters first and then never tell about someone else looks. 2 daughters obese and and one that looks like ..... and she looks like sh... as well.
Kim Clijsters is cute and doesn't need to be bashed by that clan just because she looks better , plays better and beat them all the time. BTW Venus s retiring soon, because she can't play anymore.
 

NLBwell

Legend
I wouldn't hold it against the players if their parents are weird. That would make Jelena Dokic, Mary Pierce, Andrea Jaeger, Alexander Stevenson, Alla Kournikova,Andre Agassi, etc., etc., all bad people

Agree, Oracene's bad behavior shouldn't reflect on Venus and Serena.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Who gives a damn what that intellectually challenged family thinks! Not only do those sisters and their mother lack dress sense but they seem to be about as intelligent as a mouse in the kitchen!

ksbh, you really need to start taking your garbage out. I thought living in the US would have taught you some cleanliness :) :twisted:
 

Raiden

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@nickkasem I don't dislike her. Not a all just being stupid

@OldChapleback I don't hate anyone. Isn't hate a strong word to have towards anyone?

@nickkasem You're right. I Was joking. I forget how it sound written in text. It is the definition on classless

@cenduts Not enough space to fully explain what I meant. Had to do with me watching a certain match an joking about it

@cenduts Wasn't dissing Kim. She does thing on court that I been trying to get my girls to do. She gets it.

@jh7468 Don't care what you say about me. It was a joke stemming from a match with facial expressing on court when she was playing.

@Gemma_0910 That's all I'm saying. Serena also have the muscle in her neck and I laugh. Not personal.
Aha, so the subsequent suggestion by some that Oracene's tweet-slam was perhaps possibly aimed at Justine and not Kim was then clearly speculation.
 

li0scc0

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The extreme amount of hatred directed to some tennis players...is pretty telling.

Agreed, I do dislike seeing the hate that a pleasant and thoughtful person like Wozniacki gets, simply because she is blonde and boring. It bothers me, quite a bit.
 

luvly

Professional
Nobody....


actually i would say anyone who bothers to open, read,and comment on the thread cares...

given that the title gives a pretty good description of the thread if people didnt care they wouldnt bother to look...but hey it could just be me i only enter threads that seem to be about aspects of tennis or other things i care about
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
The true hater here is Thundervolley who hates hundreds of millions of people.

Not sure about the millions, but just in the WTA alone, thundervolley is very skillful at demonstrating his hatred toward Wozniacki, Sharapova, Henin, Ivanovic, Dementieva, and many more. Notice he mostly targeted at attractive players. Perhaps good looks despise him b/c the WS are not in their league !
 

jones101

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Not sure about the millions, but just in the WTA alone, thundervolley is very skillful at demonstrating his hatred toward Wozniacki, Sharapova, Henin, Ivanovic, Dementieva, and many more. Notice he mostly targeted at attractive players. Perhaps good looks despise him b/c the WS are not in their league !

Im not defending Thundervolley but you seem to be just as Anti WS as he is anti everybody else.

And they are sisters but they are different people with difference personalities, so its quite ignorant of you to band them all together.

Apart from that you seem to be one of the more sensible posters on here.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Im not defending Thundervolley but you seem to be just as Anti WS as he is anti everybody else.

And they are sisters but they are different people with difference personalities, so its quite ignorant of you to band them all together.

Apart from that you seem to be one of the more sensible posters on here.


I don’t think you know me very well or at all.

I ANTI-Serena for:
-her outburst at the USO
-threaten to beat up a player in the locker room
-not giving credit to other players after a loss
-no credit to Jankovic/Safina for their ranked #1
-So on and so on.

Sorry, it's hard for me to be a fan for this kind of player. However, I respect her tennis excellence and her achievements.

In contrast, disliking other players b/c the way they look, blonde hair, their style of play, and even wishes them to retire from tennis inappropriate, and embarrassing as a fan.
 

li0scc0

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I don’t think you know me very well or at all.

I ANTI-Serena for:
-her outburst at the USO
-threaten to beat up a player in the locker room
-not giving credit to other players after a loss
-no credit to Jankovic/Safina for their ranked #1
-So on and so on.

Sorry, it's hard for me to be a fan for this kind of player. However, I respect her tennis excellence and her achievements.

In contrast, disliking other players b/c the way they look, blonde hair, their style of play, and even wishes them to retire from tennis inappropriate, and embarrassing as a fan.


EXACTLY.
Personally, although her attire is silly, I do not mind Venus Williams, but I cannot stand Serena for the reasons you outline above.
My wife's comment, upon reading this thread, was "Have you ever wondered if maybe Venus was adopted?".
 

jones101

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I don’t think you know me very well or at all.

I ANTI-Serena for:
-her outburst at the USO
-threaten to beat up a player in the locker room
-not giving credit to other players after a loss
-no credit to Jankovic/Safina for their ranked #1
-So on and so on.

Sorry, it's hard for me to be a fan for this kind of player. However, I respect her tennis excellence and her achievements.

In contrast, disliking other players b/c the way they look, blonde hair, their style of play, and even wishes them to retire from tennis inappropriate, and embarrassing as a fan.

Fair enough, everything you've said is reasonable I can understand why you are anti Serena (Venus has done none of those things however), so I obvioulsy misjudged you on this.

Like I said, I thought you were usually one of the more sensible posters on here.

My bad, dude :(
 

Soianka

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Agreed, I do dislike seeing the hate that a pleasant and thoughtful person like Wozniacki gets, simply because she is blonde and boring. It bothers me, quite a bit.

is she disliked because she is blonde ? There are plenty of blonde players who people like.

If she is disliked, it's probably because she is boring and "unspectacular" to quote dick enberg.

but the dislike of her doesn't come anywhere near the level of vitriole spewed about the WS' from day 1
 

Soianka

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Not sure about the millions, but just in the WTA alone, thundervolley is very skillful at demonstrating his hatred toward Wozniacki, Sharapova, Henin, Ivanovic, Dementieva, and many more. Notice he mostly targeted at attractive players. Perhaps good looks despise him b/c the WS are not in their league !


You'd have to take Henin, Wozniacki, and Dementieva out of that if it were a list of good looking tennis players. And Sharapova is questionable.

But ivanovic is quite lovely. So there's one.

:p

It's all subjective.

Plenty of people find Venus and Serena (especially) attractive. Jamie Foxx and lots of rappers to name a few. I remember David Schwimmer going on and on about how beautiful Venus is in person on the David Letterman show several US Opens ago.

Hmmn...maybe race is part of the issue after all.
 
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Soianka

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EXACTLY.
Personally, although her attire is silly, I do not mind Venus Williams, but I cannot stand Serena for the reasons you outline above.
My wife's comment, upon reading this thread, was "Have you ever wondered if maybe Venus was adopted?".

You have a wife? I got the feeling you were a teenager/preteen. Ooops.
 

luvly

Professional
You'd have to take Henin, Wozniacki, and Dementieva out of that if it were a list of good looking tennis players. And Sharapova is questionable.

But ivanovic is quite lovely. So there's one.

:p

It's all subjective.

Plenty of people find Venus and Serena (especially) attractive. Jamie Foxx and lots of rappers to name a few.

Hmmn...maybe race is part of the issue after all.


Some people have convinced themselves that thier standard of beauty is the only one that exist...
 

luvly

Professional
what i can't understand about the people posting in this thread who claim not to like serena or venus, why read threads about them? I dont read threads about players or topic i dont care about. I dont stop in just to say this player sucks etc etc.

I wonder how you treat people you dont like in your day to day life do you have your head up their a** or do you ignore them?
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
You'd have to take Henin, Wozniacki, and Dementieva out of that if it were a list of good looking tennis players. And Sharapova is questionable.

But ivanovic is quite lovely. So there's one.

:p

It's all subjective.

Plenty of people find Venus and Serena (especially) attractive. Jamie Foxx and lots of rappers to name a few. I remember David Schwimmer going on and on about how beautiful Venus is in person on the David Letterman show several US Opens ago.

Hmmn...maybe race is part of the issue after all.

Fair enough to take out Henin, but not Elena, Maria or Caro. These players tend to get more compliments for their good looks. Watch the match between Caro and Maria at the US Open, the commentator said how lucky we get to see two beautiful women playing against one another. To be honest, I’ve never heard any commentator compliment Serena for her beauty.

Plenty of people see the WS attractive, but hardly comparable to the like of Maria or Ivanovic. They made appearance on SI, FHM and Maxim magazine...top 99 most desirable women, including Kournikova and a host of hot celebrities.

No, it’s not about race issue. I think black women are beautiful such as Halle Berry or Beyonce. Also black women qualify Miss USA pageant and even win sometime. Most recently was Crystle Stewart, does that ring a bell?
 

Soianka

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To be honest, I’ve never heard any commentator compliment Serena for her beauty.

I think that is exactly our point.

Beauty is subjective. The commentators who make such comments about Maria and Caroline share a certain demographic and are promoting a certain viewpoint...not to mention that is how Maria, etc are marketed..so their "beauty" is pushed on us.

I don't find them particularly attractive to be honest with you. They look very plain and ordinary to me, but that is my opinion.

Like I said, beauty is subjective....though certainly influenced by the popular media and the ideas that they promote.
 
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nadalbestclass

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You'd have to take Henin, Wozniacki, and Dementieva out of that if it were a list of good looking tennis players. And Sharapova is questionable.

But ivanovic is quite lovely. So there's one.

:p

It's all subjective.

Plenty of people find Venus and Serena (especially) attractive. Jamie Foxx and lots of rappers to name a few. I remember David Schwimmer going on and on about how beautiful Venus is in person on the David Letterman show several US Opens ago.

Hmmn...maybe race is part of the issue after all.

I have to agree. Not just that fact that Serena is black, but the fact that so many commentators/sports writers are white. When they are praising the women players, they are putting forth their own preferences, people are usually more attracted to people in their own race. Like you sai dit's all subjective.
 

luvly

Professional
I think that is exactly our point.

Beauty is subjective. The commentators who make such comments about Maria and Caroline share a certain demographic and are promoting a certain viewpoint...not to mention that is how Maria, etc are marketed..so their "beauty" is pushed on us.

I don't find them particularly attractive to be honest with you. They look very plain and ordinary to me, but that is my opinion.

Like I said, beauty is subjective....though certainly influenced by the popular media and the ideas that they promote.

if the commentators have nothing better to talk about than a player's looks then someone is not doing their job..whether it be the player or the commentator is there is tennis going on why arent they talking about tennis...

like i had said before it is a bit of an insult to the female players for them to be going about their livelihood for them to continually be objectified...its honestly not a compliment at that point
 

nadalbestclass

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More tweets.

@nickkasem I don't dislike her. Not a all just being stupid

@OldChapleback I don't hate anyone. Isn't hate a strong word to have towards anyone?

@nickkasem You're right. I Was joking. I forget how it sound written in text. It is the definition on classless

@cenduts Not enough space to fully explain what I meant. Had to do with me watching a certain match an joking about it

@cenduts Wasn't dissing Kim. She does thing on court that I been trying to get my girls to do. She gets it.

@jh7468 Don't care what you say about me. It was a joke stemming from a match with facial expressing on court when she was playing.

@Gemma_0910 That's all I'm saying. Serena also have the muscle in her neck and I laugh. Not personal.


http://twitter.com/Oracene

LOL, nice try to cover her ***
 
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