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hollywood9826

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
My night last night.

Got off at 4. picked up a cheesesteak on the way home. Played XBox went to bed.

Thismorning. Got the snowblower out, cleared my driveway then my neighbors for 40 bucks thats like 5 cheese steaks.
 
hollywood9826

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Im not buying the Vitaly the first math on some of that stuff.

A guy that ponds hoagie and doesnt exercise will need like a 300sq inch frame.

No arguments with minium weight. although 10.5 is kinda light for me.

and 37oz is kinda high for max weight. so why have the weight measurements at all?

Never drank vodka so I cant answer that one. but this one actually makes some sense.

I dont know the Vodka answer answer but that may actually be spot on.
 
datsveryinterestin

datsveryinterestin

Professional
vitaly's vracket valculater for 5cheesesteak HW:

calculating calories in

calculating calories expended using snow blower

calculating xbox calories

calculating 5 cheesesteaks

.....
computing
.....
computing
.....

result:



<<<<b.I.g. bUbbA>>>>

thank you, please insert 50cents to try again.

apu-kwik-e-mart.jpg
 
datsveryinterestin

datsveryinterestin

Professional
Vomputer processing Vauzie Vracket Vormula:

doododododododododdododododo

computating
....
inserting data into variables
unknown workout regimen
possible vegan diet
ex-beerponger
....
computating

1st result: Vomputer could name any of 500 racquets and mr.auzzie would like for 1 week and sell the next

inserting more data...
beaten vitalys kuzzin 100x
weak ankles
1 shirt
computating...
computating...
tabulating...
sorting...

result: Wilson ProStaff ROK102 or Prince O3 Speedport Red

thank you for playing. please come again
 
magmasilk

magmasilk

New User
auzzieizm said:
Magma, I have tried all of those frames. And your Yonex is probably most similar to the Speed Pro in terms of playability and feel, except the Speed Pro IS SOOO SLOW to swing. Feel, spin, response, power, control, all are similar thoughl; its just the Speed Pro is a log to move around. The AST is a different kind of frame for me... less feel with that one. The response is such that I couldn't always tell what type of shot was coming off the frame. Sometimes it was what I expected, sometimes not. But not a bad frame.
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Looks like i'll need some demo time ...

datsveryinterestin said:
Vitalys Verfect Vracket Vormula (copyright V. Evchenkov I, 1944)
-----------------------------------
weeklycaloric intake-weeklycaloriesburnedontreadmill/100 = Headsize
federer'sracquetsize(90)+yourfatpercentage = alternate headsize
10oz + (number of pullups you can do x.10) = minimum weight
10oz + (number of pushups you can do in 1minute w/o stopping x .60) = max weight
300+(numberofvodkashotsyoucandoin1hourwithoutpukingx3) =max swingweight

Vitaly the 1st found that 95% of players under 4.5 rating should be using
Head Radical OS, Fischer Pro One 105, Babolat Pure Drive 107, Wilson KBlade Team, or Yonex E-Zone 107. he was a mathematical genius and great prognosticator of future racquet names.

but nobody listened to Vitaly and he retreated to the mountains of Ukraine and went insane from drinking rutabega juice out of lead goblets. or maybe he was already insane.. hard to say. at the end of his days he would only mumble something that sounded like "dog op ol ov pret ty po ny tail" and people would snicker.

sorry mags, what was the question? i got a little off track. ooops
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under 4.5? are we still taking about ;-)

JRstriker12 said:
JRS's Night:

-Head home from Tyson's corner.
-Crawl along Rt 7 for 1 hr to get to toll road. Crawl along toll road.
-Takes about 1hr to get form Whiele Ave to near Reston Pkwy on toll road (about 1/2 mile in distance).
-Dodge jackknifed Semi Truck (it's blocking 3 lanes.)
-Get out of car in middle of toll road to scrape off windows every 15 minutes (wipers can't keep up)
-Push stuck BWM out of the way (seriously, Toll Road was littered with stuck rear-wheel drive BMW's stuck in 4 inches of snow).
-Blow by stuck BWM's in 2000 Honda Civic SI (later suckers!!!)
-10 minutes later get to exit.
-Exit and crawl on local roads.
-Take back-way around to dodge traffic and blow through 2 ft snow drifts to avoid getting stuck.
-Push a stuck infinity out of the road.
-Pull into unplowed community and get car stuck in snow 20 ft from my house.
-Park in neighbor's drive way
-Get home 4 hours later...
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and we have a winner ... me ... 7.5 hrs
 
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JRstriker12

JRstriker12

Hall of Fame
magmasilk said:
and we have a winner ... me ... 7.5 hrs
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Yeah..... I guess I actually got off pretty easy once I pushed those damn RWD cars out of my way... LOL!

BTW- Check out the specs of the new version of the head speed (Inegra). Seems they lightened them up a bit so they aren't as hefty or slow. Sort of like a Prestige with an slightly larger head.
 
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PaulMan

Rookie
JRstriker12 said:
Yeah..... I guess I actually got off pretty easy once I pushed those damn RWD cars out of my way... LOL!

BTW- Check out the specs of the new version of the head speed (Inegra). Seems they lightened them up a bit so they aren't as hefty or slow. Sort of like a Prestige with an slightly larger head.
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Actually I got stuck on the Toll Rd exiting to Tysons corner meeting up a buddy at 3:45pm after selling my MGPP to one of your Nite Owl guys, S.W. I moved 50 ft in 3 hours time! So I pulled to the left and parked my car on the side of the exit ramp. I walked the 2 or 3 miles towards the 66 exit on Rte 7 where my buddy K was sitting for the last 3.5 hours. We finally got on 66 at 8:30pm or so after they got the sideways bus out of the way going up the hill. Didn't get home til 11:30pm after taking 66 > 28 > Toll Rd for K to drop me off at home before K went home himself in Leesburg... Suffice to say, it sucked ***! Went straight to bed. Picked up my car late Thursday afternoon. Been sick since. Feeling much better today though.
 
hollywood9826

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
I think she needs to get that career winning percentage a bit higher. shes only 405-31.

On serious not I saw some dudes at the clooge here playing tennis in a wheelchair and those udes were really good. It was surprising me to watch them use the off arm to yank the wheel to get the torso turning into the forehands. I should have something to them but I didnt so they probably thought I was watching the freak show or something.
 
tennismonkey

tennismonkey

Semi-Pro
i'm only good at throwing down a pint of cookies and cream. still monogamous and faithful to my ozone tours. kinda surprised because i'm a ****.
 
downs_chris

downs_chris

Professional
auzzie, good hitting last night...you were definitely pushing me around more from the baseline with your POGLB...at least you let me win 1 tie-breaker! haha...

my wrist has this noticeable lump in it (and hurts kind of bad) -- it's actually about 2 inches up (in the direction of my elbow) on the inside of my arm...i wonder if i strained something?
 
JRstriker12

JRstriker12

Hall of Fame
Paulman - I think this gut hybrid is growing on me. Amazing pop and good spin and control. Decent durability so far, only some very minor fraying. Almost no string movement up to this point.

Starting to wonder how this would play with some poly in the crosses????
 
downs_chris

downs_chris

Professional
JRstriker12 said:
Paulman - I think this gut hybrid is growing on me. Amazing pop and good spin and control. Decent durability so far, only some very minor fraying. Almost no string movement up to this point.

Starting to wonder how this would play with some poly in the crosses????
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what string setup are you trying again?
 
hollywood9826

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
I thought you had Poly in the crosses. Did you with MT crosses then?

Ive never had gutM poly X's before. but from the X-1M and redcodeX's. the poly crosses will cut or saw throught the mains alot fster than when the poly is in the mains. But most of time when the strings finally do break the poly has that dead feeling anyway. Im sure string savers would help alot in that regard also.

The setup for me gives the feeling of the mutli with a bit more spin than a full bed. And it gives me a bit more pop than a full bed of poly.

I use 17g in both so maybe the 16 wont saw though the mains quite as fast.
 
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JRstriker12

JRstriker12

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hollywood9826 said:
I thought you had Poly in the crosses. Did you with MT crosses then?

Ive never had gutM poly X's before. but from the X-1M and redcodeX's. the poly crosses will cut or saw throught the mains alot fster than when the poly is in the mains. But most of time when the strings finally do break the poly has that dead feeling anyway. Im sure string savers would help alot in that regard also.

The setup for me gives the feeling of the mutli with a bit more spin than a full bed. And it gives me a bit more pop than a full bed of poly.
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No, PM suggessted I try something new.

The IsoSpeed is more like a multi.

I might try it the other way to, poly mains/gut crosses.

At this point, I'm just having fun with different string set-ups.
 
hollywood9826

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Its fun experimenting. If I played more Id probably start messing around with it myself.

As far as I go now its decideding if I want to use red code or black code or red or natural color X-1. I dont use all TF on purpose it just kind of worked out that way.
 
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PaulMan

Rookie
JRs, glad you like them! The tension was 55/61 for you. Isospeed recommends stringing the Classic at 10% higher tension, that's why there's that significant tension difference.

Isospeed Classic 17 was the string choice for Thomas Muster during his heyday. He used a full bed of it and strung it like 80 lbs. or something like it on a really dense 18 main Head Pro Tour midplus frame. Like Downs_Chris, he got tons of spin on his dense string pattern, so I'm not sure if it adds much to the spin. I think I've read somewhere that Head has Isospeed make the Head Rip Control strings to be similar but not quite on par with the Isospeed Classic.

It's a very unique string. Until you try it yourself, it's kinda hard to explain it. Its hardness index is BELOW that of a synthetic gut but, of course, harder than gut. The thing is, in the string bed, it feels like a really soft poly with lots of dampening feel. It's an odd but very nice string. It pairs extremely well with gut mains and surprisingly very well with poly mains too. With the gut, it's a lighter with more pop solid feel while with the poly it's a heavier and harder solid string bed.

Gut mains with poly crosses have never felt right with me but then again, I've only tried two or 3 different polys with the gut mains. They never quite matched up well.

Poly mains with gut crosses feel pretty good, almost similar to poly with Isospeed Classic but just a little less solid, almost like a better poly/syngut hybrid.
 
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JRstriker12

JRstriker12

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PaulMan said:
JRs, glad you like them! The tension was 55/61 for you. Isospeed recommends stringing the Classic at 10% higher tension, that's why there's that significant tension difference.

Isospeed Classic 17 was the string choice for Thomas Muster during his heyday. He used a full bed of it and strung it like 80 lbs. or something like it on a really dense 18 main Head Pro Tour midplus frame. Like Downs_Chris, he got tons of spin on his dense string pattern, so I'm not sure if it adds much to the spin. I think I've read somewhere that Head has Isospeed make the Head Rip Control strings to be similar but not quite on par with the Isospeed Classic.

It's a very unique string. Until you try it yourself, it's kinda hard to explain it. It's hardness index is BELOW that of a synthetic gut but, of course, harder than gut. The thing is, in the string bed, it feels like a really soft poly with lots of dampening feel. It's an odd but very nice string. It pairs extremely well with gut mains and surprisingly very well with poly mains too. With the gut, it's a lighter with more pop solid feel while with the poly it's a heavier and harder solid string bed.

Gut mains with poly crosses have never felt right with me but then again, I've only tried two or 3 different polys with the gut mains. They never quite matched up well.

Poly mains with gut crosses feel pretty good, almost similar to poly with Isospeed Classic but just a little less solid, almost like a better poly/syngut hybrid.
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Thanks for the run-down PaulMan. Yeah, I've noticed that the hybrid gives a nice, solid string bed. Very little vibration/ping without an dampner. Good feel at contact with good pop. Found some forgiveness on off-center hits last night when hitting some lobs while stretched out.


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Auzzie/Downs - I have no tennis lined up for the week of Feb 13 - want to line up some more dubs then? We just need a 4th. (Paulman? Tennismonkey? - Or I can try to get AY)
 
downs_chris

downs_chris

Professional
JRstriker12 said:
Auzzie/Downs - I have no tennis lined up for the week of Feb 13 - want to line up some more dubs then? We just need a 4th. (Paulman? Tennismonkey? - Or I can try to get AY)
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i think auzzie is out until the 16th or so? i'm shutting down my wrist until next week....i'm available the 7th, 8th, or 9th...but i'm out of town the week of the 14th...
 
JRstriker12

JRstriker12

Hall of Fame
downs_chris said:
i think auzzie is out until the 16th or so? i'm shutting down my wrist until next week....i'm available the 7th, 8th, or 9th...but i'm out of town the week of the 14th...
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Hmmm... maybe sometime after the 16 then. I'm booked up until Feb 13.

datsveryinterestin said:
starting to think about trying a prestige mid again... oh no.. the winter has been too long and now i am getting crazy ideas. noooooooooooooooooooooo
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Presitge Pro - you won't regret it.
 
datsveryinterestin

datsveryinterestin

Professional
JRS - i've definitely been impressed with the way you played with the PrestigePro.
~~~
this broken FXP prestige mid feels so good, possibly because it has a strange weight and swingweight.
the FXPmid = 12oz strung and feels like 320sw or less in 5/8 grip
when i bought a MG prestige mid to try to replicate it before, it was like 12.5oz and swung like a club.
i may need TW to weigh every prestige they have to find a bizarre light one... or i just forget about it since i never play anymore. i can use the broken prestige to shovel snow instead.


can someone list the equipment of TWMAC. curious to know wut everybody is currently using. werd.
~~~~~ Racquet ~~~ gripsize ~~mods ~~~~~~ Strung weight ~~~~~ Strings ~~~~ Tension
Dats: XXXtremes 3/8 grip/ leaded & siliconed to 333grams / strung w/ Black Code17 at 55lbs
next!
auzzie can update and post his changes daily. :p
 
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PaulMan

Rookie
OK Dats, here's mine.

PaulMan:

1. (3x) AeroPro Drive (original) leaded, Gamma leather grip w/ Yonex OG, 342-344 grams strung w/ MSV Hex 1.18mm at 63 lbs.

2. (3x) Pure Control Plus w/ Yonex OG, 333-338 grams strung w/ Spin X 1.23mm at 61 lbs.

3. (2x) Head i.Radical OS XL (27.5 in) leaded, w/ Gamma OG, 330-333 grams strung w/ MSV Hex 1.18mm at 57 lbs. I also have a Ti.Radical OS XL set up similarly.
 
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PaulMan

Rookie
datsveryinterestin said:
ooh original Aeropro Drives! i never should have sold mine.
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Hahaha yeah, I regretted selling a few of mine. I had 5 or 6 at one point. Gave 2 to my best friend. Sold a couple more to a team member, who is still playing with them. And kept one but lent to another good friend and recently picked it up to hit and came back to it. Had to go buy a couple off 3bay to up it back to the 3 I have now. Also had at least 4 of the Plus versions too.

I've never liked the Cortex version at all. Way too dead a feel and that weird rubber tuning fork vibration when you hit a little off center. The GT version is much improved - it's got about 65-70% of the feel vs. the original but it does have a bigger and more powerful sweet spot (doubt anyone really needs that though).
 
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Sup2Dresq

Sup2Dresq

Hall of Fame
Hear the weather is not so great in dc....I so don't miss the snow. Getting back to a normal...down here in south florida. Looking to take a trip to Asia, Europe, social, Vegas, and new orleans. Memphis if xisbum goes and Nashville if Feds luck changes.

Vegas is def in march. Packing pimp suit for a Ufc fight. Anyone want to meet me there?

Dats,
Drak has some pro head prestige mid plus tgk238.4
Look it up on tw boards. Unstrung at 10.4 sw low 300s flex of 66. Hard to find. Head size ?

Sup racquet blx 95 16x18 lux adrenaline 52lbs. Wilson over grip.

Now must get back outside to play tennis in the warm sunshine.

Loving this iPad.
 
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PaulMan

Rookie
Dats, I'd play with the APD, then i.Rad XL or Ti.Rad XL, and then the PC+.

I used to love the PC+ but my hitting has regressed a little bit too much IMO, so the bigger APD and Rad OS's help me out more in consistency and pop. Still have a soft spot for them, that's why I'm holding on to them just in case I come back to them and regret that I sold them...again! lol
 
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PaulMan

Rookie
Sup2Dresq said:
Hear the weather is not so great in dc....I so don't miss the snow. Getting back to a normal...down here in south florida. Looking to take a trip to Asia, Europe, social, Vegas, and new orleans. Memphis if xisbum goes and Nashville if Feds luck changes.

Vegas is def in march. Packing pimp suit for a Ufc fight. Anyone want to meet me there?

Dats,
Drak has some pro head prestige mid plus tgk238.4
Look it up on tw boards. Unstrung at 10.4 sw low 300s flex of 66. Hard to find. Head size ?

Sup racquet blx 95 16x18 lux adrenaline 52lbs. Wilson over grip.

Now must get back outside to play tennis in the warm sunshine.

Loving this iPad.
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Nice! Enjoy your travels Sup! Totally jealous you're enjoying that nice weather down there in Florida! :cry:

Mid March, I'll be out in Vail/Beaver Creek, CO for a ski in/ski out snowboarding trip with some really close friends.

Hopefully soon, I'll get to visit my Air Force buddy down in Eglin AFB near Pensacola for some tennis and catch some red fish. He's got only a year or two left before he retires from the AFB after 22 years of duty.
 
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Sup2Dresq

Sup2Dresq

Hall of Fame
PaulMan said:
Nice! Enjoy your travels Sup! Totally jealous you're enjoying that nice weather down there in Florida! :cry:

Mid March, I'll be out in Vail/Beaver Creek, CO for a ski in/ski out snowboarding trip with some really close friends.

Hopefully soon, I'll get to visit my Air Force buddy down in Eglin AFB near Pensacola for some tennis and catch some red fish. He's got only a year or two left before he retires from the AFB after 22 years of duty.
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Went to the beach the other day and saw deep sea fishing tours getting ready to leave. May try that and diving.

HW would seem like a good skipper on those boats. Zapvor can be gilligan.

Paulman. Sup and snow is not a good combo.

Loving this iPad
 
datsveryinterestin

datsveryinterestin

Professional
where in FlO-RYDA are u sup? near drak?
i am making plans to be in Florida (naples) w/ rental car in 2weeks.
got to take massive amounts of ibuprofen for shoulder so
i can play some tennis in the sun again!
NAME~~~~RACQUET~~~~~~GRIPSIZE~~~~WEIGHT~~~STRING~~~~TENSION
Dats: head ytk extreme ////3/8 grip/// 333gr ///// Black Code17 /// 55lbs
Sup: wilson blx 95 16x18 ///////////////////////////lux adrenaline /// 52lbs
PaulMan: babolat APD orig //////////////342-344 gr /// MSVHex 1.18 /// 63 lbs
 
hollywood9826

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Dats here you go buddy.

(7x) TF 325 (Orig) 27.25 inches 368g / ~12pt HL Head TK57 pallets 4 5/8 / Leather grip and White Supergrap / X-1 M 52lbs Black Code cross at 55 lbs.

Strill havent strung up the old Rd power 7 super mids but those guys are 28inch and around 12.5 strung.
 
JRstriker12

JRstriker12

Hall of Fame
-Sup - man! Outdoor tennis in warm weather sounds good right now! Oh, and did you say something about loving an iPod?

-Dats:
2X Prestige Pro MG 5/8 grip - Sampras Dampner - Yonex Supergrap overgrip (white)
2X Pure Drive Roddick 5/8 grip- Sampras Dampner - Yonex Supergrap overgrip (white)

- I think I have two Wilson Blitz rackets sitting in a corner somewhere.....

- I really should sell my PDR's and pick up another PPMG.... I keep eyeing the new Speed Pro IG though.....

Auzzie, Tennismonkey, Schap - any suggestion on doing the sell/trade thing??? How much do you think I could get for my PDR's - they are pretty well used, but still good IMHO.
 
downs_chris

downs_chris

Professional
Dats,

(too many) Prince Original Graphite Longbody cut to 27" | 4 1/2 grip | ~12 oz (with lead) | Luxilon Big Banger Original 15L | 62 lbs.
 
datsveryinterestin

datsveryinterestin

Professional
if you listen real hard, you can hear a little boy let out a spanish cry when you cut a POGLB down to 27". true story
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3hours later i am over the prestige need. har.
i think the 10grams of tape i added to the handle of my extremes was throwing the balance off. interestingly, i slapped it on the end of my raquet and TW university says it gives me the ultimate auz-beater!
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<<<<<<<< XxxxXtreme(ly bored) >>>>>>
STOCK //////////// mod1 //////////////mod 2
________________________________________
320gr /////////////// 332gr //////////////////342grams
SW = 325 ////////// SW =354 //////////// SW = 387
40.66 /////// Power%center: 43.85 // Power%center: 46.62
27.2 ////////Plow% center: 31.9 //////Plow% center: 36.3
18.6 ////////Power% 3&9: 20.8 //////Power 3&9: 22.70
-7.8 ///////// Plow 3&9: -4.5 //////////Plow 3&9: -1.3
this obviously shows my custom stick#2 is now perfected and serves should be 135mph and topspin kick 8ft high.

(just wasted an hour with this... :oops:)
 
auzzieizm

auzzieizm

Semi-Pro
downs_chris said:
auzzie, good hitting last night...you were definitely pushing me around more from the baseline with your POGLB...at least you let me win 1 tie-breaker! haha...

my wrist has this noticeable lump in it (and hurts kind of bad) -- it's actually about 2 inches up (in the direction of my elbow) on the inside of my arm...i wonder if i strained something?
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Yeah I could tell mid way through the first of the 15 (or however many) tiebreakers we played that the wrist wasn't holding up. I'm surprised you were able to even compete!! And to go for as long as you did.

I will always have a place in the bag for the original POGLB that I have. Its helped me play some of the highest level tennis that I have ever played.

downs_chris said:
i think auzzie is out until the 16th or so? i'm shutting down my wrist until next week....i'm available the 7th, 8th, or 9th...but i'm out of town the week of the 14th...
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Yeah I'm away from the mainland from the 7th to the 16th...

datsveryinterestin said:
starting to think about trying a prestige mid again... oh no.. the winter has been too long and now i am getting crazy ideas. noooooooooooooooooooooo
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you can try some PB10 Mid if you want to hit :)

datsveryinterestin said:
JRS - i've definitely been impressed with the way you played with the PrestigePro.
~~~
this broken FXP prestige mid feels so good, possibly because it has a strange weight and swingweight.
the FXPmid = 12oz strung and feels like 320sw or less in 5/8 grip
when i bought a MG prestige mid to try to replicate it before, it was like 12.5oz and swung like a club.
i may need TW to weigh every prestige they have to find a bizarre light one... or i just forget about it since i never play anymore. i can use the broken prestige to shovel snow instead.


can someone list the equipment of TWMAC. curious to know wut everybody is currently using. werd.
~~~~~ Racquet ~~~ gripsize ~~mods ~~~~~~ Strung weight ~~~~~ Strings ~~~~ Tension
auzzie can update and post his changes daily. :p
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I wish I could limit it to one set of specs... REALLY WISH

JRstriker12 said:
- I really should sell my PDR's and pick up another PPMG.... I keep eyeing the new Speed Pro IG though.....

Auzzie, Tennismonkey, Schap - any suggestion on doing the sell/trade thing??? How much do you think I could get for my PDR's - they are pretty well used, but still good IMHO.
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I have been looking at Speed MP's pretty closely too... I'm surprised I have never tried the frames (beside the Speed Pro).

PDR's can get a bit of money. Try posting and see if there are any responses. I sold my PDR's over a year ago pretty easily.

datsveryinterestin said:
if you listen real hard, you can hear a little boy let out a spanish cry when you cut a POGLB down to 27". true story
~~~.
i think the 10grams of tape i added to the handle of my extremes was throwing the balance off. interestingly, i slapped it on the end of my raquet and TW university says it gives me the ultimate auz-beater!
~~~:)
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yeah but poglb's at 27.25' feel SOOOO good...

your frames were sweet- hope you don't mess with them too much...
 
downs_chris

downs_chris

Professional
auzzieizm said:
Yeah I could tell mid way through the first of the 15 (or however many) tiebreakers we played that the wrist wasn't holding up. I'm surprised you were able to even compete!! And to go for as long as you did.

yeah but poglb's at 27.25' feel SOOOO good...
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yeah, i probably should've stopped, but i didn't realize that until after we finished...oh well...

do you need a 27.25" POGLB? i have one that's out of place in my bag...haha
 
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