Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
I getting my KProstaff restrung and wanted to try Roger's stringing setup. I need to know what to tell the stringer how to string my racket and with what? Thanks. Cannot wait to try it afterward. This is going to be fun!
If you want to be precise.... get Wilson's Champion's Choice gut/Lux combo. Gut in the mains. Strung around 22 kgs, 48.5 lbs. Check out this pic of Federer's BLX90 (from TTW member Fabfed) and note the position of his string savers, power pads, and tie-off holes for the crosses......
Don't get the Champion's Choice. The gut in that set is of lower quality than the gut that comes in a full set. It's basically the equivalent of Babolat's Tonic+ line. If you want Fed's real setup, get the gut and rough separate.If you want to be precise.... get Wilson's Champion's Choice gut/Lux combo. Gut in the mains. Strung around 22 kgs, 48.5 lbs. Check out this pic of Federer's BLX90 (from TTW member Fabfed) and note the position of his string savers, power pads, and tie-off holes for the crosses......
Why dont you call him and ask again then? because one of you are wrong..Well, Roger Federer says he strings at 52-56 pounds, depending on court and environment.
But, hey, what does he know about his own racquet?
48/45lbs vs team 17g (wilson premium) and alu power rough 17g. Power pads, with string alings, 4th and 6th cross down, 5 on each.
48/45lbs Wilson Natural Gut 16 (P1 leather) and alu power rough 17. Power pads, with string savers, 4th and 6th cross down, 5 on each.
Not babolat gut? or is wilson gut the same stuff from the same factory? also not the powerpads mate
Well...
there's pictures on the P1 website that shows Wilson gut, but Nate Fergy says it's VS team??
but VS team only comes in 17 gauge.
and that's from Nate Ferguson not Ron Yu so...
anyway since there's so much things AGAINST Federer using VS team, and there's photo evidence he uses Wilson gut, then I say Wilson gut.
oh.. and why not power pads??
did he stop using them??
Well...
there's pictures on the P1 website that shows Wilson gut, but Nate Fergy says it's VS team??
but VS team only comes in 17 gauge.
and that's from Nate Ferguson not Ron Yu so...
anyway since there's so much things AGAINST Federer using VS team, and there's photo evidence he uses Wilson gut, then I say Wilson gut.
oh.. and why not power pads??
did he stop using them??
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why do you keep questioning Ron, he actually strings Fed's sticks and we are fortunate to get his feedback.
VS Team has not only come in 17 gauge(1.25mm). It has come in a variety of gauges. In our office we have packages of 1.22, 1.25, 1.27, 1.30, 1.35, and 1.40 gauges of VS Team.
Originally, VS Team was the designation Babolat used for gut that was earmarked for top juniors and professional players. It would come in a more nondescript white foil packaging. It was the same stuff as the consumer product, but just packaged differently with the term "Team" lasered on the string. I'm not sure exactly why they made this distinction, but it may be due to them wanting to make sure that gut earmarked for pro players didn't ultimately get sold somehow to the general public. Since pros used to get pretty significant discount on gut, Babolat may have been worried that some of it would be sold for a profit by someone else. After a while, Babolat changed VS Team packaging to basically look exactly the same as the retail packaging except in the place of the terms "Power" or "Touch", they would use "Team." VS Power was the retail name for 1.25mm and VS Touch for 1.30.
I'll have to check, but I believe we still get 1.30mm gut from Babolat for a couple of our Gold Service clients that say "VS Team." I do know that for a while I found it interesting that Lleyton Hewitt got gut labeled "VS Touch", but Marcos Baghdatis was getting gut labeled "VS Team" even though they were exactly the same stuff.
I would not be at all surprised if they made "VS Team" gut a variety of string gauges still. Its not hard to change the lasering on the string, and the slight change in packaging.
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why do you keep questioning Ron, he actually strings Fed's sticks and we are fortunate to get his feedback.
Amen to that. Ron, thank you so much for your continued participation on the boards. The vast majority of us really appreciate all your efforts.
Somebody find the off switch for this kid before he fails even more.
The VS Team gut is different from VS Touch and other VS guts because of the tolerance in the factory.
VS Touch 1.30 could be anywhere between 1.28 and 1.32 for example and the laser that measures it at the factory during the finishing process would accept it.
If the factory was making VS Team 1.30 that day then the tolerances on the laser were set to 1.30 exactly and reject anything above or below.
This margin of difference is not as important to a club player because they will not feel the difference between a 1.29 gauge and a 1.31 gauge where as a player will notice (normally).
This is the difference between the two.
Take care
VS Team has not only come in 17 gauge(1.25mm). It has come in a variety of gauges. In our office we have packages of 1.22, 1.25, 1.27, 1.30, 1.35, and 1.40 gauges of VS Team.
Originally, VS Team was the designation Babolat used for gut that was earmarked for top juniors and professional players. It would come in a more nondescript white foil packaging. It was the same stuff as the consumer product, but just packaged differently with the term "Team" lasered on the string. I'm not sure exactly why they made this distinction, but it may be due to them wanting to make sure that gut earmarked for pro players didn't ultimately get sold somehow to the general public. Since pros used to get pretty significant discount on gut, Babolat may have been worried that some of it would be sold for a profit by someone else. After a while, Babolat changed VS Team packaging to basically look exactly the same as the retail packaging except in the place of the terms "Power" or "Touch", they would use "Team." VS Power was the retail name for 1.25mm and VS Touch for 1.30.
I'll have to check, but I believe we still get 1.30mm gut from Babolat for a couple of our Gold Service clients that say "VS Team." I do know that for a while I found it interesting that Lleyton Hewitt got gut labeled "VS Touch", but Marcos Baghdatis was getting gut labeled "VS Team" even though they were exactly the same stuff.
I would not be at all surprised if they made "VS Team" gut a variety of string gauges still. Its not hard to change the lasering on the string, and the slight change in packaging.
The VS Team gut is different from VS Touch and other VS guts because of the tolerance in the factory.
VS Touch 1.30 could be anywhere between 1.28 and 1.32 for example and the laser that measures it at the factory during the finishing process would accept it.
If the factory was making VS Team 1.30 that day then the tolerances on the laser were set to 1.30 exactly and reject anything above or below.
This margin of difference is not as important to a club player because they will not feel the difference between a 1.29 gauge and a 1.31 gauge where as a player will notice (normally).
This is the difference between the two.
Take care
What about going back and reading Ron's post concerning Lleyton and Marcos to answer that question.
Interesting that Hewitt (as per your and Ron's posts) would get the "lower quality" (from a gauge consistency perspective) gut and Baghdatis the "higher quality" one...
Hmmmm maybe Hewitt didn't "care" and Baghdatis felt the difference ??
I don't understand why people are attacking me, I believe him, I'm going to admit I was completely wrong, and to kiteboard, I saw it off of collinthestringer's website. But that is wrong as Ron You said.
Thanks Ron
Sorry all
missed an e should have read note
ahh right thanks then its the same stuff anyway is it not?
I tend to believe what Ron says as well. He tends to know what he is talking about......
Well, I know that Babolat said that the Team gut had a tighter tolerance, but when I worked for Jay's Custom Stringing, we would check every single set of string when we received it in the office. We would take the string out of Babolat packaging, and then use a micrometer to check the gauge. Even with the Team gut, it would vary a few of millimeters. We would then repackage each set of gut, and mark the exact diameter on the new package. In this way we could make sure we would take the same diameter string to each event for a particular player. If a player used 1.30mm gut, we might take all 1.29 to one event, and then to the next event take all 1.31. It kept things very consistent for the player.
??vast??
Dude I love the guy for posting 10+ lines of
Stop flaming me, I believe a guy who strung his racquets
I bet if we strung everyone's racket here with every variation of gut mentioned above, nobody that posts here would be able to tell the difference.
So the question then becomes..........why is everyone so interested in such exact specifics?
I bet most people here couldn't hit inside the baseline with a 48/44 lb gut/poly K90.
Hey RJYU,
Have you strung for Novak Djokovic?
If so can you please provide me with some of his most common tensions.
Cheers.