mixedmedia
Professional
Okay, thanks for that info. Was tension maintenance better or worse than Scorp, or was it hard to tell? I really wish WC made a round version of B5E...
A couple string tests
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Up&comer
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Truthfully, I think b5e is just about the same as scorpion, albeit more spin. That's what it feels like, at least to me. Tension seems to hold about the same.
mixedmedia
Professional
Good to know. I could use a bit more spin. I might have to try it as a cross after I try the TS Storm.
Up&comer
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Here we go.
Xcel premium strung at 56.
Stringing- easy. Really easy, actually. No problems, no friction, and no kinking.
Groundstrokes- nice. It has that x-1 effect where you get lots of controlled power. Great pop, nice spin, and flat shots are good as well.
Overall- 8/10
Serves- great. Like I said, this string has all sorts of controlled power. Flat and slice serves are awesome, but kicks lacked a little spin.
Overall- 9/10
Volleys- again, really good. Touch shots were great, crunched volleys were solid. Overheads were a little overpowered.
Overall- 8.5/10
Durability- average for a multi, maybe a little better
Overall- 6/10
Stiffness- 1 being softest, 10 being stiffest.
Overall- 2.5/10
This is truly a great multi. It has plenty of controlled power, holds tension pretty well, soft, and a good response and feel.
Overall- 9/10
Xcel premium strung at 56.
Stringing- easy. Really easy, actually. No problems, no friction, and no kinking.
Groundstrokes- nice. It has that x-1 effect where you get lots of controlled power. Great pop, nice spin, and flat shots are good as well.
Overall- 8/10
Serves- great. Like I said, this string has all sorts of controlled power. Flat and slice serves are awesome, but kicks lacked a little spin.
Overall- 9/10
Volleys- again, really good. Touch shots were great, crunched volleys were solid. Overheads were a little overpowered.
Overall- 8.5/10
Durability- average for a multi, maybe a little better
Overall- 6/10
Stiffness- 1 being softest, 10 being stiffest.
Overall- 2.5/10
This is truly a great multi. It has plenty of controlled power, holds tension pretty well, soft, and a good response and feel.
Overall- 9/10
Posture Guy
Professional
man, this is just a great thread. thanks to U&C for taking the time to write all this up and for others adding their feedback and suggestions. I'm learning a lot.
Definitely going to try the Pacific Classic/B5E setup.
Definitely going to try the Pacific Classic/B5E setup.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Its definitely in my top 5. I think Gamma Prof beats it by a slim margin.
Posture Guy
Professional
the multis I'm most interested in are from Technifibre. Their Multi Feel, and X-1 BiPhase. I want to try out both, especially the former.
Up&comer
Hall of Fame
The xcel broke this morning. 
Next will be full scorpion, then fxp tour (I think), then b5e mains and gut crosses.
To posture guy, x-1 is basically xcel premium with terrible tension maintenance.
Just talk to mikeler about multifeel. I don't have much experience with it and we have similar views on strings.
Next will be full scorpion, then fxp tour (I think), then b5e mains and gut crosses.
To posture guy, x-1 is basically xcel premium with terrible tension maintenance.
Just talk to mikeler about multifeel. I don't have much experience with it and we have similar views on strings.
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Posture Guy
Professional
yeah, I saw mikeler's post about multifeel, made me want to try it. If I'm remembering correctly, he was very positive about that string.
Up&comer
Hall of Fame
I'm interested in comparing Pacific ToughGut to Classic. Especially in terms of how long it lasts as a hybrid and the differences in feel and power. If it lasts significantly longer than the Classic (and it seems like it might), it might be worth it. Any chance you could try that out?
Up&comer
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Yeah, sure. Ive got 3 in front of you. (full scorpion, fxp your, and b5e mains with gut crosses.)
I'm losing track. I'll take more recommendations after these four.
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mikeler
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The xcel broke this morning.
Next will be full scorpion, then fxp tour (I think), then b5e mains and gut crosses.
To posture guy, x-1 is basically xcel premium with terrible tension maintenance.
Just talk to mikeler about multifeel. I don't have much experience with it and we have similar views on strings.
I liked X-1 better the first few hours.
Never used it, sorry.
Losing. Sorry, personal pet peeve.
Up&comer
Hall of Fame
I liked X-1 better the first few hours.
Never used it, sorry.
Losing. Sorry, personal pet peeve.
Agreed, me neither, and fixed it.
Up&comer
Hall of Fame
2 hitting sessions, so 4 and half hours give or take.
Not good at all.
As a hybrid lasts maybe double that time according to my limited experience with it using it as a cross. Softens the stringbed well; good multi cross.
Posture Guy
Professional
yeah, I love the way mikeler formats his review threads. makes it easy to zero in on strings of interest.
but even if U&C doesn't do that, this has been a terrific thread, but it will get unwieldy in a few months, I'd imagine.
but even if U&C doesn't do that, this has been a terrific thread, but it will get unwieldy in a few months, I'd imagine.
mikeler
Moderator
PVAudio does it a little bit different from me but either way, some kind of TOC would be great since this thread does seem destined for playtest greatness.
Posture Guy
Professional
yeah, both of you guys do a great job of indexing on the first page what's to come. Makes the thread useful once it gets over a 100 posts.
Up&comer
Hall of Fame
It's really not bad. That's about how long most multis last for me. I break strings quite often, unfortunately.
Up&comer
Hall of Fame
Zo twist (black) strung at 51/49
Stringing: like just about every geared poly in existence. It was like bhbr, except it didn't coil over itself as much.
Groundstrokes: Now i know people on this board aren't fans of gamma strings, but that will have no influence on this. The spin was very good. It was pretty low powered, and felt pretty consistent. It felt terrible though, it had a really harsh feedback, not like a really stiff string, but you know what I mean. It was a black code feeling.
Overall: 8/10
Serves: meh, not bad. Lacked a little pop, and they tended to have too much spin for the amount of power they produced.
Overall: 7/10
Volleys: not good. It had a strong, bad feedback. Really aggressive volleys were fine, but anything with touch was bad.
Overall: 5/10
Durability: About average for ploys. Didn't go dead too terribly quickly.
Overall: 8/10
Stiffness- On a scale of 1 being the softest, and 10 being the stiffest
Overall- 8.5/10
Overall, it's a pretty decent playing string, but it didn't feel very good. Not bad, not great either.
Overall: 7/10
Stringing: like just about every geared poly in existence. It was like bhbr, except it didn't coil over itself as much.
Groundstrokes: Now i know people on this board aren't fans of gamma strings, but that will have no influence on this. The spin was very good. It was pretty low powered, and felt pretty consistent. It felt terrible though, it had a really harsh feedback, not like a really stiff string, but you know what I mean. It was a black code feeling.
Overall: 8/10
Serves: meh, not bad. Lacked a little pop, and they tended to have too much spin for the amount of power they produced.
Overall: 7/10
Volleys: not good. It had a strong, bad feedback. Really aggressive volleys were fine, but anything with touch was bad.
Overall: 5/10
Durability: About average for ploys. Didn't go dead too terribly quickly.
Overall: 8/10
Stiffness- On a scale of 1 being the softest, and 10 being the stiffest
Overall- 8.5/10
Overall, it's a pretty decent playing string, but it didn't feel very good. Not bad, not great either.
Overall: 7/10
mikeler
Moderator
Tommy Haas or Robredo?
mixedmedia
Professional
Personally, I like them in chronological order, so we have a sense of what they are being compared to, surpassing, &c.
Up&comer
Hall of Fame
Haha.
http://www.tennisrecruiting.net/player.asp?sessionid=765898CC68D40FC1
His name is Tommy Paul.
I start in about 20 minutes.
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Up&comer
Hall of Fame
Thanks. I'll do that later.
mixedmedia
Professional
I think in the order you tried them is better...
mikeler
Moderator
Hmm, you may have a good point here. It's easy enough with CTRL-F to search for strings on the page so maybe the way you have it is best.
Posture Guy
Professional
as long as it's indexed in some fashion, I'm good. The order makes no difference to me.
mikeler
Moderator
Sounds like a good battle. You made him work in the 2 sets you lost which is a positive sign. Lately, I'd rather play well and lose then play like doo doo and win.
Anxious to see your results with FXP Tour. I have my racquet strung up but haven't been able to use it due to rain
Posture Guy
Professional
amen. I don't get much satisfaction from playing poorly and winning.
Up&comer
Hall of Fame
Doubles
Legend
Sounds like a good match. That's a good score to put up against someone who's a blue chip. On another note, let us know how FXP tour is I like the concept of a multi/poly blend, but those that I've tried have been rather lackluster...
Posture Guy
Professional
hey Doubles......nice Head stick, how about those strings?
sorry, couldn't resist (your tag line).
sorry, couldn't resist (your tag line).
Doubles
Legend
Black5Edge with Babolat Addiction crosses, though I might change the cross strings. I'm just too lazy to change my signature...
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
FXP Tour is a very unique string. Interested to hear your thoughts.
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Up&comer
Hall of Fame
For some reason that made me laugh. It just sounds like something you would say to an 8 year old.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Funny - I felt the same way after hitting with FXP Tour.
BUT...I used it in a full bed and thought it was definitely more
soft than stiff...but very MUTED. It doesn't give you a lot of
power and isnn't low powered either. The nice thing about it,
is that it doesn't have the "springi-ness" that multi's have, so it
never gets out of control on hard swings.
My main issue with it is the extremely "muted" feel on impact. Not sure if I like that or not.
mikeler
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