D
decades
Guest
RN didn't look good at all against TH. very vulnerable.
Talker
Hall of Fame
Djokovic is in Nadal's way if he makes it past Federer.
There's nothing I can see that Nadal has changed to bother Djokovic either.
He can still beat Djokovic if he's at his best though.
Djokovic won't have the problems of the past with endurance and heat, his game looks as good as last year and may even be a touch better as he has the confidence at a higher level than this time last year.
There's nothing I can see that Nadal has changed to bother Djokovic either.
He can still beat Djokovic if he's at his best though.
Djokovic won't have the problems of the past with endurance and heat, his game looks as good as last year and may even be a touch better as he has the confidence at a higher level than this time last year.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Nadal tends to get better with ever match in slams. This may well be his 2nd best start to an AO. He looks sharper than he looked at the beginning of last year's AO, that is for sure. Either way, Haas has a high kicking ball which pushes Nadal back. Not many players can do that. Yet Nadal won with a lopsided scoreline and broke Haas at will.
FlamEnemY
Hall of Fame
Yeah, a better one.
nadalwon2012
Banned
True, or at least in the case of Tomic.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
This is by far Djokovic's best major and by far Nadal's worst. Unless Novak loses focus (again) as he did in the Wimbledon and US finals, Rafa won't win more than 3 games per set.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
A one handed backhander like Haas has no chance against the great Nadal.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Nah, tennis doesn't work like that. Every match-up is completely unique. The surfaces in each specific match-up effect the match-up in different ways. For example, Djokovic needed a 3rd set tie-breaker to beat Nadal at Miami (and needed a deciding set to beat Nadal at Indian Wells) but beat Nadal in straight sets on clay at Rome and Madrid. Then they met at Wimbledon and Nadal breadsticked Djokovic. Djokovic won the match, but it had back-n-forth breaks. All this defies the fact that Nadal's best surface is clay.
Someone watching these matches would have presumed that Djokovic's best surface was clay, and Nadal's worst surface was clay. And it's true that at the moment, in this match-up Djokovic has more time on clay to take charge of the point against Nadal. Also, Nadal's serve is more vulnerable on clay. Whereas when Nadal plays other guys on clay, they are hurt by Nadal's topspin and are unable to flatten-out the high-bouncing/spinning ball, unlike Djokovic.
This current surface dynamic wasn't always the case, as Djokovic wasn't always confident enough to take Nadal's high balls on the rise on clay. So Djokovic in the past wasn't as competitive on clay vs Nadal. Meanwhile, in the past Nadal wasn't as good on hardcourts compared to today. So even within the surface variables within a match-up you have timeline variables concerning the players development on each surface.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Haas' backhand actually has a lot of kick on it, unlike Federer's. Not saying Haas' backhand is a weapon vs Nadal, it just isn't the liability that we sometimes see when Federer plays Nadal. Of course, Haas has been lacking match practice, so nothing in his game was at prime level. But his backhand did pin Nadal back further than most one-handed backhands tend to.
Fedex
Legend
Would that be Stefan Lazar Hrebeljanovic.
Lawn Tennis
Semi-Pro
People, people! Why are we posting this here. ESPN3.com allows us the ability to watch every single match the day after, and now you've spoiled it for a lot of us!
Can the mods move this to "Pro Match Results"? I know it doesn't say Nadal won his first or second round match, but saying that Nadal looks unstoppable kinda gives it away.
Can the mods move this to "Pro Match Results"? I know it doesn't say Nadal won his first or second round match, but saying that Nadal looks unstoppable kinda gives it away.
Fedex
Legend
I think if you visit a tennis forum it will be nigh on impossible to avoid the results.
Stay well clear until you've seen the match.
It's the only sure way I'm afraid.
C
celoft
Guest
I concur.
There was no Djokovic 2.0 in 2010 and that is why Nadal won 3 slams by not necessarily playing GOAT tennis, he was better in 2008/early 2009.
Djokovic 2.0 is like an upgraded and improved version of Nadal which means Djokovic 2.0 is a better player than Nadal. It's like Murray is a better version of Simon, hence the owning.
Nadal playing at the same level of 2010 that won him 3 slams is not enough to beat Djokovic 2.0 who does everything Nadal does better. Plus Nadal has no variety or surprise tactics to trouble Djokovic 2.0 like Federer and Murray can.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Last year, Nadal breadsticked Djokovic at Wimbledon, won a set at the US Open (and had 2-0 leads in 2 other sets), and earlier in the year lost in a tight tie-breaker 3rd set at Miami. Clearly, Nadal can reach the level to get on top of Djokovic, just not for long. Nadal must keep the level up for longer, and he can. And as I said earlier in the thread, don't assume that Djokovic's best surface vs Nadal is the same as his best surface vs other players. Anyone watching Nadal vs Djokovic in 2011 would have assumed clay was Nadal's worst surface (and Djokovic's best surface)-
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
lmao @ epic NadFans.
Backing main Man Djokovic.
The Machine.
This Brah can do everything.
Text book strokes.
Nadal has gimmicky strokes its apparent.
Nadal is pumped and gearing up for another peak year, retards.
If Djokovic can stop him again he is EPIC.
Backing main Man Djokovic.
The Machine.
This Brah can do everything.
Text book strokes.
Nadal has gimmicky strokes its apparent.
Nadal is pumped and gearing up for another peak year, retards.
If Djokovic can stop him again he is EPIC.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Uhm...don't you mean if Nadal can stop Djokovic? Last I checked, it's Djokovic handing out breadsticks and bagels throughout the tour while being far and away the world #1 whereas Nadal is needing an MRI to see if his knee is cracked just from sitting on a chair. :lol:
swordtennis
G.O.A.T.
lol did not think of it the other way around.
Gotta give Nadal props for his achievements and GS experience.
More than Djokovic at this point.
This injury thing has been going on since Nadal came on tour lol.
He is always running around like a jackrabbit tho never tiring.
I want to see Djokovic beat Nadal again at a GS that will solidify his #1.
nadalwon2012
Banned
Djokovic is pretty much doomed if Nadal wins this AO. All the people who diss Nadal to death will be doomed too 
and threads will be bumped like crazy :shock:
and threads will be bumped like crazy :shock:
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is pretty much doomed if Nadal wins this AO. All the people who diss Nadal to death will be doomed too
By your bitter self, no doubt. But I guess since nadal isn't winning it...
nadalwon2012
Banned
I'll be bumping the bitter, I'll be about as far from bitter as a person can be. I'll be a 'winner'.
Clarky21
Banned
Nadal will not win one slam this year much less multiple slams. Fed's slam count is safe and sound at least where Nadal is concerned.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Noel is putting in the effort. Don't worry.
But we just have to be careful that Noel doesn't win all 4 slams in a year or he'll overshadow Rafa's greatness.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Clearly, Nadal had a phenomenal 2011, towering over his competitors.
Clearly, and without any doubt he has AO in his suitcase.
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