Really interesting that Prince is back to string hole on the sides and port on the head. Guess they have been listening...
Are string grommets available for purchase to replace the port grommets for sides and top/bottom for the Rebel 98 similar to the exo3 Tour?
As far as I know, yes. I just got some for my Rebel 95s.
Directly from Prince (I'm a sponsored teaching pro).
When u get a chance, can u find out if they have the same hole grommet inserts for the 98? thanks
The review mentions it is similar to the Wilson Blade BLX 98. Has anyone played with both? I am thinking of getting one of these or the Rebel 98.
Preferred the Rebel 98. I found better control, spin, volleys and comfort with the Rebel 98. I feel BBlade is more powerful. Another important difference is the balance/weight distribution between the two frames. I'm not going to say one is "better" than the other but there is a difference and you will prefer one over the other.The review mentions it is similar to the Wilson Blade BLX 98. Has anyone played with both? I am thinking of getting one of these or the Rebel 98.
Between the XForce and the Rebel 98, can you say one is more powerful than the other?Personally I don't find it similar to the Blade at all. Much lighter and whippier. The Blade is also much stiffer feeling and heavier swingweight. Also, they both have different string patterns. I find the Rebel 98 similar to the Head Speed 300 and the Pacific XForce.
Preferred the Rebel 98. I found better control, spin, volleys and comfort with the Rebel 98. I feel BBlade is more powerful. Another important difference is the balance/weight distribution between the two frames. I'm not going to say one is "better" than the other but there is a difference and you will prefer one over the other.
Between the XForce and the Rebel 98, can you say one is more powerful than the other?
The XForce Pro is a little bit out of your spec range, I believe, but have you had a chance to ever hit with it?They both have a medium amount of power....about the same. But you need to swing each stick pretty fast to get depth.
The XForce Pro is a little bit out of your spec range, I believe, but have you had a chance to ever hit with it?
Jack, just had one additional question. Since people are asking for comparisons of the Rebel 98 to other racquets, just wondering your thoughts in relation to the Prestige S and the Yonex V Core 98? Thanks.
If you read my post again, you'll see I never assumed you hit with the Pro. Just asking if you had. Thanks for the input, though.Never said the Pro. The regular XForce.
If you read my post again, you'll see I never assumed you hit with the Pro. Just asking if you had. Thanks for the input, though.
Regarding some of these comparisons, I'm a little sceptical, or surprised that among racquets with the same size head, the stiffer one with a higher static weight and higher swing weight would be significantly lower powered than the lighter, more flexible one.
The listed swingweight for the Prestige S is only 315 while the Rebel is 325. I was considering your rankings and assumed the S had a higher SW, so that will something to do with the perceived power levels . If the head of the S is measured in the same method as the other Prestige's, it is closer to 95" rather than the Rebel's 98" so that may further explain the Rebel's higher power.The Prestige S is very low powered. All the TW reviewers made comments about the lack of power in their shots.. If you are skeptical, try it yourself. Of course these are all my personal opinions and what may be powerful to you, may not be to me.
The listed swingweight for the Prestige S is only 315 while the Rebel is 325. I was considering your rankings and assumed the S had a higher SW, so that will something to do with the perceived power levels . If the head of the S is measured in the same method as the other Prestige's, it is closer to 95" rather than the Rebel's 98" so that may further explain the Rebel's higher power.
From the reviews and feedback, I wouldn't expect anything spectacular from the Pres. S, but I'm still curious to try it.
If that is indeed the case, and I'm not saying it isn't, then I'd like to know which factors make the Rebel 98 so much more powerful than the PresS. I'm not trying to dispute what you said - I haven't tried the S yet - I suppose I'm speaking to the more general discussion of what makes a racquet powerful.You should know by now u cant go exactly by TW's swingweights. The Rebel is listed as 325, but FEELS much lighter...like around 310. The Prestige S is 315, but feels around 325.
If that is indeed the case, and I'm not saying it isn't, then I'd like to know which factors make the Rebel 98 so much more powerful than the PresS. I'm not trying to dispute what you said - I haven't tried the S yet - I suppose I'm speaking to the more general discussion of what makes a racquet powerful.
also want to add that i usually prefer multifilamint strings in my frames, which are stiffer frames than the prince rebel 98. in the prince, with it's lively stringbed i prefer a polyester full bed set up but drop the cross string tension by 3 lbs as i do with all my oval shaped frames. isospeed axon mono is a nice choice.
what tension is your full poly setup?
also want to add that i usually prefer multifilamint strings in my frames, which are stiffer frames than the prince rebel 98. in the prince, with it's lively stringbed i prefer a polyester full bed set up but drop the cross string tension by 3 lbs as i do with all my oval shaped frames. isospeed axon mono is a nice choice.
why drop crosses for oval frames? Would that mean for rounder frames you don't drop them at all?
Jack,
How do you compare the Rebel 98 with your DC Pro? As a former owner of the DC Pro, I would be really interested in your thoughts.
If u liked the DC Pro, go straight to the Rebel EXO3 Warrior 100. It's VERY similar and the specs are almost identical to the DC Pro. The Rebel 98 is much lighter feeling and less powered than the DC Pro. Also the hoops shapes are very different...the Rebel is oval/egg shaped and the SC Pro is rounder...so is the Warrior.
oval shaped frames by design tend to be control frames and not top spin monsters. prince calls the rebel 98 the player's tweener and that really describes what this frame is all about. the racquet has some pop and with it's higher swing weight, it will do some work for you. still, it is geared for those who have long fast swings and developed strokes.
i have 2 more of these puppies on the way.
for me it is what i was hoping for with a boris becker melbourne light. it has that nice ball cupping and lively response but still has precise control in a lighter package. it feels soft yet is solid. a modern fame with traditional feel.
the dunlop bio 300T is still my current favorite in this class and the 2 frames compare pretty well. the dunlop is more precise and the string bed is more consistent and less lively but the sweetspot is bigger on the rebel 98 and control is still very good. interesting in that i prefer a multi or gut in the dunlop but like a co-poly in the prince rebel 98. a poly firms up the string bed but you still feel the ball cupping if you stay in the mid to low tension range. the feel of the ball is more crisp on the dunlop bio 300T and you feel a little more connected to your shots.
i will continue to play test this frame over the next couple of months and experiment with different strings. prince has done a great job here and it sounds like all of their updates are a hit. i am actually glad that they are finally offering a 98" oval frame as the choice of 95" or 100" round kept me away. but i like what i found in this prince.
the only other frame that i am excited about this year is the volkl x9.
What has been your experience serving with this frame? I have been serving well on my flat serve 1st but have had some trouble dialing in the second when kicking it out wide. When I do get it dialed in, it usually is has good kick and ball action.
My London and Melbourne seem to offer more consistency on the second serve.
Update from my experience with the rebel 98... Like many racquets, the strings can make a big difference. I loved the demo, bought a new one, and didn't have the same great results, and even started having some arm problems. Turned out it was just the new poly strings at too high of a tension.
I waited a week, and even thought about selling or trading it. THANKFULLY I DIDN'T!! Played with it again twice yesterday (singles and doubles) and now that the tension has lowered, it plays like a totally different racquet (and like the demo I loved). Perfect control, very comfortable, and more power. No arm problems as all. I'm loving everything about it!!
String the rebel 98 with a soft poly at around 52, or a multi, and it really is the perfect lightweight players racquet with amazing control and a surprising amount of pop and forgiveness.