What is the percentage probability of Djokovic winning 4 slams in row?

What is the percentage probability of Djokovic winning 4 slams in row?

  • 0%

    Votes: 27 19.4%

  • 10%

    Votes: 27 19.4%

  • 20%

    Votes: 26 18.7%

  • 30%

    Votes: 6 4.3%

  • 40%

    Votes: 9 6.5%

  • 50%

    Votes: 9 6.5%

  • 60%

    Votes: 8 5.8%

  • 70%

    Votes: 9 6.5%

  • 80%

    Votes: 4 2.9%

  • 90%-100%

    Votes: 14 10.1%
  • Total voters
    139
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Alchemy-Z

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I remember Djoker winning the Aussie and then comming back the next year only to fold in the quarters. Sure he is playing with confidence better than he use to but that's alot of pressure and even Fed/Rafa couldn't pull it off and they are far cooler customers than even Prime Djoker. I really think Murray is the dark horse everyone keeps looking to Fed and Rafa ( but their current aging bodies/mental blocks and pressure to challenge Novak makes it tough)

Murray has had back to back final results at the AO and made the SF of every grand slam last year. so he's got the momentum without the pressure.
 
DjokovicForTheWin

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nadalwon2012 said:
Relatively speaking, the Australian Open is not even relevant to me. I only care about Roland Garros. It would be a complete bonus if Nadal wins any events this year apart from Roland Garros. And I think he will win many more events, but just saying, RG is the only essential event.
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Ahhh ok, already making pre-emptive excuses regarding your imminent departure in 3 weeks :). Smart!
 
Talker

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I figure it's one out of ten, he has a better chance than Fed had and needs two more.
It depends where Fed ends up in the RG draw also.
 
5555

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Tony48 said:
Interesting. What page is this except from? I can't find it.
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"The Grand Slam, which traditionally consists of winning all four major tournaments in one calendar year, has been achieved only by Don Budge in 1938, Maureen Connolly in 1953, Rod Laver in 1962 and 1969, and Margaret
Court in 1970. In 1982 the ITF redefined the Grand Slam as four consecutive victories that could span two calendar years"
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20088137,00.html
 
kiki

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5555 said:
"The Grand Slam, which traditionally consists of winning all four major tournaments in one calendar year, has been achieved only by Don Budge in 1938, Maureen Connolly in 1953, Rod Laver in 1962 and 1969, and Margaret
Court in 1970. In 1982 the ITF redefined the Grand Slam as four consecutive victories that could span two calendar years"
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20088137,00.html
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Who cares what the ITF says or not? the Gran Slam will always be winning the big 4 in the same calendar year.
 
jackson vile

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kiki said:
Who cares what the ITF says or not? the Gran Slam will always be winning the big 4 in the same calendar year.
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They had to make is easier, also consider the Serena slam and when Rafa had the possibility of achieving 4 consecutive slams. Dig that post back up and all these same ****s will be arguing for you.
 
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TMF

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5555 said:
Who cares what you say?
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Only kiki and a few Laver fans care. But really, who cares what they say.

jackson vile said:
They had to make is easier, also consider the Serena slam and when Rafa had the possibility of achieving 4 consecutive slams. Dig that post back up and all these same ****s will be arguing for you.
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Wrong.
Even the ****s that were trying to say Nadal slam is equal to a calendar slam. Evena a good nadal fan(Mustard) believe they are equal except the calendar slam looks "neater".
 
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Fate Archer

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I think he has a very good chance, as good as there ever been on the men's side since Laver.

Rumour has it that Novak believes he can have an even better year than last year (according to tenis.com editors).

The event which is most likely to be the missing link though is Wimbledon at this point, IMO.

Federer would have a very good chance of stoping Novak there, perhaps Murray too.

It will be on Wimbledon where Novak will have to play his best tennis I think.
 
tennis_pro

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I wanna see how he deals with pressure going for his 4th major in a row (yea nobody's beating him in australia - let's face it). Really interesting times...
 
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tennis_pro said:
I wanna see how he deals with pressure going for his 4th major in a row (yea nobody's beating him in australia - let's face it). Really interesting times...
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Huge pressure considering it would mean the Career Slam as well.
 
kiki

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TMF said:
Only kiki and a few Laver fans care. But really, who cares what they say.



Wrong.
Even the ****s that were trying to say Nadal slam is equal to a calendar slam. Evena a good nadal fan(Mustard) believe they are equal except the calendar slam looks "neater".
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Gran Slam, in spite of the jealous of you *******s, will remain a private property of Mr Rod Laver in the open era...and Mr Donald Budge, and, again, Rod Laver in the pre open era...the greatest achievement that Federer would possibly give all those slams won in that weak era...
 
TennisFan3

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Djokovic said that he plans to have even a better year in 2012 than he did in 2011.

He said he's looking to improve his game, will be more aggressive and will avoid mistakes of the past.

I think he is the clear favorite in every slam. Still winning 4 in a row is always hard to do.

I would put Djokovic's chances of winning the calender slam at approximately 40%. Clearly these are the best odds since a long long time..
 
FlashFlare11

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I honestly believe Novak has a very good chance at winning the calendar slam. He's, so far, the only player in recent history that is virtually unopposed across all surfaces. Federer had Nadal stopping him on clay every year. Nadal had so many different people stopping him on hard courts. Djokovic, seems to me, the one who can win against anyone (barring another amazing performance/lack of mental lapse from Federer) on any surface.
 
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Fate Archer

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5555 said:
International Tennis Federation sets the rules what is the "Grand Slam". Therefore, it's fact that the Grand Slam can span two calendar years.
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Well, there will always be controversy on the definition of one calls a true Grand Slam though, even more so because it wasn't the ITF who coined the term but tennis jornalist Bud Collins in 1933.

But it seems like they have the copyrights now, lol.

The Grand Slam as the ITF defines is what is popularly known to tennis fans as a Non calendar Year Grand Slam. Still a huge accomplishment, but the true holy grail of men's tennis is still the Calendar Year Grand Slam, for many reasons.

My opinion, but probably reflects what many other tennis fans think too.
 
kiki

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5555 said:
International Tennis Federation sets the rules what is the "Grand Slam". Therefore, it's fact that the Grand Slam can span two calendar years.
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Gran Slam has never been invented by the ITF (They´d never have enough talent to do so).It was invented in 1938 by US sports journalist Allison Danzig and he said it was winning the big 4 in the same year.It was first used for golf (PGA,Masters;USO,BO) and then translated into tennis.

The day this change it applies to golf, then we may do it to tennis.But, not yet.
 
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kiki said:
Gran Slam has never been invented by the ITF (They´d never have enough talent to do so).It was invented in 1938 by US sports journalist Allison Danzig and he said it was winning the big 4 in the same year.It was first used for golf (PGA,Masters;USO,BO) and then translated into tennis.

The day this change it applies to golf, then we may do it to tennis.But, not yet.
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The reason that the source for the definition of "winning the Grand Slam" has to directly or indirectly come from the ITF and not some other source is because it's a registered trademark of the ITF. So since the ITF literally owns the term "Grand Slam", its real definition is whatever they say it is.

"The Grand Slam® tournaments..."
http://beta.itftennis.com/about/grand-slams/overview.aspx
 
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kiki

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5555 said:
The reason that the source for the definition of "winning the Grand Slam" has to directly or indirectly come from the ITF and not some other source is because it's a registered trademark of the ITF. So since the ITF literally owns the term "Grand Slam", its real definition is whatever they say it is.

"The Grand Slam® tournaments..."
http://beta.itftennis.com/about/grand-slams/overview.aspx
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If Allison Danzig, back in the 30´s had known how much used the term he invented would be, he´d certainly have sold the trademark for a big bunch of money to the ITF.The ITF is unable to have any creative idea...remember the Gran Prix run by ITF in the 70´s and 80´s...? well, they took it from car racing.

In anycase, the sense of a Gran Slam is winning the big 4 the very same year...and that is also the case for Golf, too ( the first time the term GS was used it was linked to the golf, I think Jones or Snead run at the big 4 and then adapted into tennis)
 
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Kiki - While I agree with you, that the true GS is the CYGS. But why do you keep calling it Gran Slam, instead of Grand Slam?
 
kiki

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Hitman said:
Kiki - While I agree with you, that the true GS is the CYGS. But why do you keep calling it Gran Slam, instead of Grand Slam?
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my bad...in Europe we call it Gran Slam, probably making a mistake.In anycase, as far as I get understood, it´s OK¡¡:)
 
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TMF

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kiki said:
my bad...in Europe we call it Gran Slam, probably making a mistake.In anycase, as far as I get understood, it´s OK¡¡:)
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Then next time spell it out correctly instead of keep repeating the same mistake on purpose.:twisted:

GRAND SLAM​
 
5555

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kiki said:
If Allison Danzig, back in the 30´s had known how much used the term he invented would be, he´d certainly have sold the trademark for a big bunch of money to the ITF.The ITF is unable to have any creative idea...remember the Gran Prix run by ITF in the 70´s and 80´s...? well, they took it from car racing.
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The term "Grand Slam" is a registered trademark of the ITF. Period.
In anycase, the sense of a Gran Slam is winning the big 4 the very same year...and that is also the case for Golf, too ( the first time the term GS was used it was linked to the golf, I think Jones or Snead run at the big 4 and then adapted into tennis)
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Since the ITF literally owns the term "Grand Slam", its real definition is whatever they say it is. Period.
 
kiki

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5555 said:
The term "Grand Slam" is a registered trademark of the ITF. Period.

Since the ITF literally owns the term "Grand Slam", its real definition is whatever they say it is. Period.
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I won´t discuss it, I just don´t care, to me a GS is 4 the same year.In any case, winning the 4 one after the other, still counts as much as the GS.No distinction, since it is the same difficult.It would be stupid to downgrade somebody for not doing it in the same year, but still in 12 months.
 
kiki

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TMF said:
Then next time spell it out correctly instead of keep repeating the same mistake on purpose.:twisted:

GRAND SLAM​
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Thank you teacher, with you around, I won´t have to bother checking out at Google Translator...
 
kragster

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The first page of this thread has a pointless argument and the last page of this thread also does.

Can we discuss the actual intent of the topic?

Anyway looks like Nole has a pretty good shot and getting 4 in a row which would be a tremendous achievement since only one other man has done it. I would rate his chances of winning the FO as 40% (40% rafa, 20 % Fed).

I do have a feeling though that we might get trolled and Murray might win the FO lol.
 
RAFA2005RG

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History is repeating itself. Rafa was going for his 4th slam in a row, but Djokovic won the 2011 AO (Djokovic's preferred slam) to halt the streak. Now Djokovic is going his 4th slam in a row, but Rafa won the 2012 RG (Rafa's preferred slam) to halt the streak. Will be interesting to see if Rafa is going for his 4th slam in a row at next year's AO.
 
RAFA2005RG

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It's an interesting question, considering these 2 facts:
a) Nadal has only lost 1 match at Roland Garros.
b) Djokovic has never beaten Federer at Roland Garros.
 
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RAFA2005RG said:
History is repeating itself. Rafa was going for his 4th slam in a row, but Djokovic won the 2011 AO (Djokovic's preferred slam) to halt the streak. Now Djokovic is going his 4th slam in a row, but Rafa won the 2012 RG (Rafa's preferred slam) to halt the streak. Will be interesting to see if Rafa is going for his 4th slam in a row at next year's AO.
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I can't believe I missed the whole of the French Open for this year. :cry:
 
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kragster said:
The first page of this thread has a pointless argument and the last page of this thread also does.

Can we discuss the actual intent of the topic?

Anyway looks like Nole has a pretty good shot and getting 4 in a row which would be a tremendous achievement since only one other man has done it. I would rate his chances of winning the FO as 40% (40% rafa, 20 % Fed).

I do have a feeling though that we might get trolled and Murray might win the FO lol.
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Lendl won his first slam at RG. ;-)
 
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RAFA2005RG said:
You haven't, but its safe to assume the result, same every year except for 09.
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Isn't it dangerous to assume though? While Nadal is my pick, if I had to put money on it, nothing should be taken for granted. He might go in as a juggernaut and destroy everyone. He might go in with an injury, poor preparation and have low confidence.
 
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Hitman said:
Isn't it dangerous to assume though? While Nadal is my pick, if I had to put money on it, nothing should be taken for granted. He might go in as a juggernaut and destroy everyone. He might go in with an injury, poor preparation and have low confidence.
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It's only dangerous if you put a lot of money on it. And I don't bet, so no danger obviously.
 
FlashFlare11

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RAFA2005RG said:
You haven't, but its safe to assume the result, same every year except for 09.
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That's highly foolish. There is a player that can beat Nadal on any surface and has done so seven times, across all surfaces. Nadalwon2012 did the same thing in assuming Nadal was going to beat Djokovic in the AO final. Now, I doubt there's a poster on this forum who has any respect (or even cares, for that matter) for anything he has to say. I wouldn't make such bold predictions if I were you.
 
RAFA2005RG

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FlashFlare11 said:
That's highly foolish. There is a player that can beat Nadal on any surface and has done so seven times, across all surfaces. Nadalwon2012 did the same thing in assuming Nadal was going to beat Djokovic in the AO final. Now, I doubt there's a poster on this forum who has any respect (or even cares, for that matter) for anything he has to say. I wouldn't make such bold predictions if I were you.
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Well its not Soderling. Rafa has thrashed him twice at Roland Garros since 09. And Djokovic can't even make a Roland Garros final.
 
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RAFA2005RG said:
Well its not Soderling. Rafa has thrashed him twice at Roland Garros since 09. And Djokovic can't even make a Roland Garros final.
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Yeah, and he couldn't beat Rafa in a final...until he did so 7 times in a row. So yes...continue on with your delusions about what Djokovic can't do. If this is the last pathetic stand of hope you have to clutch on to in order to convince yourself that Djokovic hasn't transformed into a seemingly invincible tennis player, then by all means proceed. You'll look like a fool when Djokovic does, but since he was proving you wrong left and right last year, I'm already sure that know what it feels like.
 
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