Serena playing untouchable tennis for a while now

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LanceStern

Professional
  • Untouchable serve
  • Huge power off both wings
  • Amazing angles (especially the backhand)
  • Great defense (not fastest runner but great slider)
  • Calm (I don't mind grunting, but she doesn't grunt either)
  • DEMOLISHING everyone's second serve. It's hard to watch sometimes
  • Variety of shots (loopers, flat bombs, drop shots, slices)

It's pure joy to watch highlights of her clay court season on Youtube. since Charleston now into Madrid it's great.

I just really hope she practices hard and efficiently on French Open clay because it's so different and slows down her serve a lot. hope she keeps working on the angles and movement. I would love to see her get the french open title this year

Best woman to watch
 
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wy2sl0

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I think everyone knows that if she put hard time in, and was on 90% of the time she could have beat Graf's record for GS's especially in an era with Woz lol.

She is on another level physically. Although she has problems mentally.
 
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LanceStern

Professional
wy2sl0 said:
I think everyone knows that if she put hard time in, and was on 90% of the time she could have beat Graf's record for GS's especially in an era with Woz lol.

She is on another level physically. Although she has problems mentally.
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And for goodness sakes she walked through Sharapova and Azarenka.
 
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SerenaSlam01

Rookie
I've seen the highlights and I have to say she is on another level physically but it isn't what is winning her these matches.

Her timing is impeccable and she isn't muscling the ball. Whenever she muscles that ball its so ineffective. She looks relaxed and her timing is what is making her spray these winners left and right.
 
cluckcluck

cluckcluck

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LanceStern said:
  • Untouchable serve
  • Huge power off both wings
  • Amazing angles (especially the backhand)
  • Great defense (not fastest runner but great slider)
  • Calm (I don't mind grunting, but she doesn't grunt either)
  • DEMOLISHING everyone's second serve. It's hard to watch sometimes
  • Variety of shots (loopers, flat bombs, drop shots, slices)
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It's easy when you only play competitively part time, the rest of the WTA is on a full time schedule, where Williams plays a handful of tournaments. So she comes in rested. If she were to be on the same schedule as Azarenka or Stosur she wouldn't be as dominate.
 
DRII

DRII

G.O.A.T.
LanceStern said:
And for goodness sakes she walked through Sharapova and Azarenka.
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Thats because they do not match up well against Serena; neither can play great defense nor have overly offensive serves (Sharapova did at one point).

Kivitova is the only player of the new top girls that can challenge Serena offensively. She has a capable enough serve not to be put on defense by Serena's return, and off the ground she matches Serena in power and has better ball direction and placement. However, Kivitova still can be mentally fragile. Much like Lindsay Davenport, if she is not hitting the ball near perfect on every shot (both are one the few players who are capable of such), she can become frustrated. Serena often lulls her game until she starts to time the ball well again...

Once a point gets started, i think Azeranka has an advantage over Serena off the ground. Azeranka takes the ball earlier than any of the women and robs her opponents of time. But her serve can be a weakness...
 
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decades

Guest
most of the time she wins despite her poor fitness. can you imagine how scary it will be when she is fit, like she seems to be heading to?
 
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BeHappy

Hall of Fame
Serena is just the last one standing. Venus, Davenport, Henin, Mauresmo, Pierce, Capriati... they're all done now, she's winning by default. Just like Clijsters was for a while.
 
DRII

DRII

G.O.A.T.
BeHappy said:
Serena is just the last one standing. Venus, Davenport, Henin, Mauresmo, Pierce, Capriati... they're all done now, she's winning by default. Just like Clijsters was for a while.
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Yep...

very true.

Venus is only good for 2 or 3 matches as of right now. But, if you're unlucky enough to draw her on her first match -- she can dismiss anyone (like the 6-0 set Venus took off of Kivitova at Miami)!
 
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NadalAgassi

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It is funny that while Kvitova might be the only top player who has the game to challenge Serena she cant even get past early rounds now. She is even trailing freaking Wozniacki in Race points.
 
wrxinsc

wrxinsc

Professional
^ lapdog's comment notwithstanding, she is playing awesomely of late.

me, family and friends saw her mow down her opponents in Charleston, it was a thing to behold. That har tru surface there played like clay for everyone but her. She was murdering the ball. It was ball homicide.

The buzz around the family circle was that she was playing with new strings [for her] allowing her to take big cuts. IDK> seemed like that could be true watching her in person.
 
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LanceStern

Professional
wrxinsc said:
^ lapdog's comment notwithstanding, she is playing awesomely of late.

me, family and friends saw her mow down her opponents in Charleston, it was a thing to behold. That har tru surface there played like clay for everyone but her. She was murdering the ball. It was ball homicide.

The buzz around the family circle was that she was playing with new strings [for her] allowing her to take big cuts. IDK> seemed like that could be true watching her in person.
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One of the commentators mentioned that as well. Either way she's doing crazy!

I share the same feeling that if a rally can really get started that Azarenka could beat Serena off the ground if not just for her superior movement.

I also feel when we hit super slow clay at the French Open Wozniacki could tire Serena out or defend until she gets the error, because the clay may neutralize some of Serenas' winners. Here's hoping she's practicing movement, fitness and ball control the coming weeks (although she's got it great right now)
 
mellowyellow

mellowyellow

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decades said:
most of the time she wins despite her poor fitness. can you imagine how scary it will be when she is fit, like she seems to be heading to?
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Look at it from the other side, her fitness is not in question but her unrealistic for a woman bulk, is going to be hard to keep going for extended matches. Plus she is black, generally they lack endurance as muscle fiber is 70-80% fast twitch. She is easily 190lbs. She is as tall as Paes and definitely much thicker in many areas. Paes is listed as 175lbs.
 
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1970CRBase

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LanceStern said:
One of the commentators mentioned that as well. Either way she's doing crazy!

I share the same feeling that if a rally can really get started that Azarenka could beat Serena off the ground if not just for her superior movement.

I also feel when we hit super slow clay at the French Open Wozniacki could tire Serena out or defend until she gets the error, because the clay may neutralize some of Serenas' winners. Here's hoping she's practicing movement, fitness and ball control the coming weeks (although she's got it great right now)
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Neither Woz nor Aza are anything like good clay courters let alone great ones. Combined, they have 5 clay WTA to match Serena's 5 clay WTA. Neither have Serena's record at the French where Serena has 5 qf, 1 sf and 1 win and Woz and Aza have never been past qf with 3 qf between them.
 
firepanda

firepanda

Professional
Oh I don't know... I reckon Federer, maybe Nadal could beat her...

But yes, if she plays like this she'll demolish Wimbledon and probably the French as well.
 
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bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
I love that she's focused on showing her talent. I love that she's on this streak.

But, to me, it's a waste if she doesn't finish this off with a French Open and/or Wimbledon title. It's been so long since we've Serena play dominant tennis for consecutive months, that I'm not completely confident that she can keep this up. But, she really seems to have changed gears so it's looking good.
 
Tanya

Tanya

Hall of Fame
bluetrain4 said:
But, to me, it's a waste if she doesn't finish this off with a French Open and/or Wimbledon title. It's been so long since we've Serena play dominant tennis for consecutive months, that I'm not completely confident that she can keep this up. But, she really seems to have changed gears so it's looking good.
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You're right, it's a little like last summer when she went undefeated until facing Sam Stosur in the USO final... I just hope that she doesn't blow it again. I was so disappointed last time.
 
Russeljones

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Agree with everything excep the "slide" comment. Serena's movement is still poor. Doesn't detract from her incredible form though, which is mostly down to a superb 1st serve and very good mentality.
 
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NadalAgassi

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bluetrain4 said:
I love that she's focused on showing her talent. I love that she's on this streak.

But, to me, it's a waste if she doesn't finish this off with a French Open and/or Wimbledon title. It's been so long since we've Serena play dominant tennis for consecutive months, that I'm not completely confident that she can keep this up. But, she really seems to have changed gears so it's looking good.
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I wouldnt say a waste as she is greatly upping her non slam record which she has been criticized for in the past. I do really hope she wins 1, 2, or even 3 slams this year though. She definitely has the potential.

It is funny but after Henin won that first French in 2003, it felt like that was almost the write off slam for Serena as Henin was so dominant there, and Serena even seemed to give up on it for awhile, but since Henin's first retirement it has felt like the French has almost been hers to lose every year since (including during Henin's brief abysmal comeback attempt), and that she has lost it mostly due to nerves each time.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
tennisconsultcom said:
Serena wasn't sharp today. There are no any chances for winning in singles in Paris after she lost.
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She didn't need to sharp today because she still had the match in her racket. It was handed to her but she still find ways to skrew up.

Serena is not playing untouchable tennis, but unacceptable !!
 
ben123

ben123

Professional
i regret that serena is out because i dont want to see shriekarenka or screamapova winning this lol
 
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tistrapukcipeht

Professional
LanceStern said:
  • Untouchable serve
  • Huge power off both wings
  • Amazing angles (especially the backhand)
  • Great defense (not fastest runner but great slider)
  • Calm (I don't mind grunting, but she doesn't grunt either)
  • DEMOLISHING everyone's second serve. It's hard to watch sometimes
  • Variety of shots (loopers, flat bombs, drop shots, slices)

It's pure joy to watch highlights of her clay court season on Youtube. since Charleston now into Madrid it's great.

I just really hope she practices hard and efficiently on French Open clay because it's so different and slows down her serve a lot. hope she keeps working on the angles and movement. I would love to see her get the french open title this year

Best woman to watch
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Whenever it came down to the FO she went down in flames.

First off, Razzano has a big hear.

Second off, the stats of the match showed:

Serena win more points on her 1st serve(68% againbst 60%), had more aces (8 against 4 from Razzano), hit 39 winners (9 more than Razzano), won more points when receiving (43% against 42% from Razzano), broke serve 4/16 against 4/10 from Razzano, won more point at the net (61% against 55%), plus won easily some hindrance points, due to the cramping from her opponent, who was also double faulting a lot at the end, with all of this Razzano still beat her.

Razzano made less UE (36 against 47 from Serena), still won 5 more points than Serena all match long and and again cramping, giving points away, double faulting she still won despite of Serena playing a better match with faster serves by 15KM, hitting more aces, less double faults, and all others, so congrats to Razzano really, who went out there didn't get intimidated and won the match on her racquet.
 
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tistrapukcipeht

Professional
Well, Razzano hit 36 herself, so it wasn't that much apart plus on clay UE happen more.

Serena played a good match, she played the best she could yesterday, she tried really hard, but Razzano was the better player at the end, no excuses. Many of her UE were forced errors, I saw some of them when she tried to rip some 2nd serves and somtimes being moved from one side to the other out of position making UE.
 
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analysis_king

Rookie
BlueClayIsRealClay said:
Serena is the most overrated champion in the history of tennis
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that is flat out incorrect. serena is probably the most dominant female player in the last 10-15 years. however her game is terrible to watch. just flat out power. one of my favorite moments in tennis has to be watching justine henin at the 2007 US Open. the tiny diminutive belgian girl with none of the physical gifts that serena (and venus) had, controlling and negating their power with european flair and grace.
 
TERRASTAR18

TERRASTAR18

Hall of Fame
hcb0804 said:
She kept calling "hindrance" on Razzano, giving her point penalties for making far less noise than Azerenka or Sharapova make every time they hit a ball.
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it's called enforcing the rules, it's no different than when serena got penalized, razzy can control her mouth. it's unfortunate but she was still doing it.
 
TERRASTAR18

TERRASTAR18

Hall of Fame
tistrapukcipeht said:
Well, Razzano hit 36 herself, so it wasn't that much apart plus on clay UE happen more.

Serena played a good match, she played the best she could yesterday, she tried really hard, but Razzano was the better player at the end, no excuses. Many of her UE were forced errors, I saw some of them when she tried to rip some 2nd serves and somtimes being moved from one side to the other out of position making UE.
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not really serena blew the match and her strokes broke down.....razzy i believe played solid aggressive tennis but nothing spectacular.
 
hcb0804

hcb0804

Hall of Fame
TERRASTAR18 said:
it's called enforcing the rules, it's no different than when serena got penalized, razzy can control her mouth. it's unfortunate but she was still doing it.
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Then enforce the rules on everyone. Sharapova and Azerenka, even Nadal and a lot of others make far more noise on every shot they hit. They should then lose every point by your reasoning. Razzano wasn't doing anything worse than a lot of players.......Serena included.
 
TERRASTAR18

TERRASTAR18

Hall of Fame
hcb0804 said:
Then enforce the rules on everyone. Sharapova and Azerenka, even Nadal and a lot of others make far more noise on every shot they hit. They should then lose every point by your reasoning. Razzano wasn't doing anything worse than a lot of players.......Serena included.
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fine....but don't strategically b.... about it, because none of you had a problem when serena recieved it at the us open because it wasn't like razzano did it every point she did it on and off and the ref didn't penalize her everytime. she gave warnings and replayed the point unlike with serena.
 
hcb0804

hcb0804

Hall of Fame
TERRASTAR18 said:
fine....but don't strategically b.... about it, because none of you had a problem when serena recieved it at the us open because it wasn't like razzano did it every point she did it on and off and the ref didn't penalize her everytime. she gave warnings and replayed the point unlike with serena.
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I'm watching Djokovic & Kavcic right now and they are both making much louder noise on every shot than what Razzano got point penalties for yesterday.

Now watching Errani & Porky Oudin; Errani should be penalized every point if Razzano was yesterday.
 
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heftylefty

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
analysis_king said:
that is flat out incorrect. serena is probably the most dominant female player in the last 10-15 years. however her game is terrible to watch. just flat out power. one of my favorite moments in tennis has to be watching justine henin at the 2007 US Open. the tiny diminutive belgian girl with none of the physical gifts that serena (and venus) had, controlling and negating their power with european flair and grace.
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Are you referring to the same Henin that quit in a final of AO?
 
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Soianka

Hall of Fame
tistrapukcipeht said:
Well, Razzano hit 36 herself, so it wasn't that much apart plus on clay UE happen more.

Serena played a good match, she played the best she could yesterday, she tried really hard, but Razzano was the better player at the end, no excuses. Many of her UE were forced errors, I saw some of them when she tried to rip some 2nd serves and somtimes being moved from one side to the other out of position making UE.
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This is total nonsense.

Serena was up 5-1 then 5-3 in the tie-breaker and then made 3 errors in a row and let the 4th point go thinking the ball was out.

She saved 7 match points in the 3rd and had 5 break point chances, most often making an unforced error on her break points.

She played like absolute crap until 5-1 in the 3rd.

As usual, the match was on Serena's raquet. If her 1st serve percentage was a little higher and she didn't look like she was about to have a nervous breakdown, Razzano would not have had a chance.

Get real.
 
vandre

vandre

Hall of Fame
on the bright side, she now has more time to practice on the grass before wimbledon. what am i saying, she doesn't practice!
 
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