Dunlop AG 200 & arm problems

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wrm12

New User
Hi,
Has anyone experienced shoulder/elbow issues after using a Dunlop AG 4D 200 Tour racquet? I switched to one about 6 months ago and got a partial tear in my rotator cuff. I'm wondering if that might be a possible cause. It has a light poly and synthetic strings strung at 58 lbs. I had been playing with a PK MP Redondo before.

Thanks!
 
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floridatennisdude

Hall of Fame
Too heavy or too light can cause shoulder problems. It is a good reason to demo racquets about every 2 years max, if you are a competitive player. As your body changes, you should re-evaluate if the weight, stiffness, flex point and other things are still ideal for your game and your body.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
If you work to swing it fast, it's too heavy for your body.
I have 2 Mfil200's and one Aero. The lighter ones come out low 12's, too heavy for this 5'11" and 149 lbs.er.
So I play with Aero500's, and try to be careful NOT to swing too fast.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
Shows how long you have been thinking of tennis. Arm problems were prevelent in the days of WOOD rackets, 14 oz and 50 flex.
Some players get arm problems from too heavy rackets, some from too light a racket, some from too stiff, and some from too SOFT.
Every player is different.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

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This is my current frame, i dont recognize anything of the things you stated.
 
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Say Chi Sin Lo

G.O.A.T.
Shows how much you been thinking of tennis and fitness. If I have problems with my body and particularly my arm. I'll look into my strokes, fitness, and whether or not I have adequate rest.

The last thing I'll look into is my equipment.

But yeah, every player is different. Some like to put their faith and glory in equipment, some don't.

Equipment doesn't cause an overuse/chronic injury, it can make it worse and/or hinder the healing process. The injury started elsewhere.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
Once again, shows how much you know about human frailty, tennis elbow, wrist, and shoulder problems.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

Guest
This is my current frame and I dont recognize anything of the things you said
 
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Say Chi Sin Lo

G.O.A.T.
LeeD said:
Once again, shows how much you know about human frailty, tennis elbow, wrist, and shoulder problems.
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Well, being I never had wrist and tennis elbow. MAYBE I don't. But having come back from two shoulder surgeries, maybe I do know a little about "human frailty". I think I know a thing or two about rotator cuff problems, and overall fitness, stroke mechanics, and etc. My post didn't even mention you, anything else you want to say while you're purposely going after me?

Point is, equipment does not cause injuries. Accidents, bad mechanics, joint imbalance/fitness, and overuse/inadequate rest do. Equipment can certainly make it worse, but it doesn't start the injury.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
You are so off base you barely warrant an answer. I know of easily 20 college top Div1 players with shoulder and arm problems from playing tennis, using rackets from stiff thru medium in flex.
I'll bet there are literally thousands of 5.0 + players suffereing arm and elbow problems right now
The human body is not made to pummell tennis balls for 4 hour sessions, 6 days a week, for multiple years, plain and simple.
 
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Say Chi Sin Lo

G.O.A.T.
LeeD said:
You are so off base you barely warrant an answer. I know of easily 20 college top Div1 players with shoulder and arm problems from playing tennis, using rackets from stiff thru medium in flex.
I'll bet there are literally thousands of 5.0 + players suffereing arm and elbow problems right now
The human body is not made to pummell tennis balls for 4 hour sessions, 6 days a week, for multiple years, plain and simple.
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Correct, and I agree. At that rate, fatigue and inadequate rest are certainly factors. Which I included in my previous posts. Now what does equipment have to do fatigue and etc.? That was the root of my posts. But hey you seem to enjoy attacking people, so keep doing what you do. You have your opinion, I have mine.

Equipment (in this case, Dunlop AG 200) does not cause an injury. Other factors have to happen first. Equipment can certainly make the initial injury worse/hinder the healing process.
 
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wrm12

New User
Thank you all for your opinions. In my case I 've been using 12 ounces flexible racquets for many years with no problems. It just happened after I switched. However it could be other factors involved that I might be overlooking.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
I switched from ChangExtendeds to TTLongbody's to Mfil and Aero 200's to Aero500's with no arm or shoulder problems.
 
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floridatennisdude

Hall of Fame
Say Chi Sin Lo said:
Correct, and I agree. At that rate, fatigue and inadequate rest are certainly factors. Which I included in my previous posts. Now what does equipment have to do fatigue and etc.? That was the root of my posts. But hey you seem to enjoy attacking people, so keep doing what you do. You have your opinion, I have mine.

Equipment (in this case, Dunlop AG 200) does not cause an injury. Other factors have to happen first. Equipment can certainly make the initial injury worse/hinder the healing process.
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You haven't figured out who LeeD is yet?

Go to YouTube...Dos Equis Most Interesting Man
 
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Fuji

Legend
wrm12 said:
Hi,
Has anyone experienced shoulder/elbow issues after using a Dunlop AG 4D 200 Tour racquet? I switched to one about 6 months ago and got a partial tear in my rotator cuff. I'm wondering if that might be a possible cause. It has a light poly and synthetic strings strung at 58 lbs. I had been playing with a PK MP Redondo before.

Thanks!
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It's definitely a possibility that it caused a bit of harm actually. From my experience, the flex plays a roll, and so does stringbed stiffness, but the balance is what I noticed most on my shoulder if I'm switching between frames. Too HL and I'm over swinging on my serve, too HH and it feels like my shoulder is getting ripped out of it's socket.

Unless your 200 has the same balance as your Redondo to which you were used to, then I'm not sure.

-Fuji
 
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Pacific lefty

Rookie
Triad technology

As eveyone has seen in my shoulder thread, I suffered from impingement and had the SAD surgery. In the past I used Head and Prince racquets. My original shoulder injury occurred in Oct 2010 after playing for over a year with a light, oversized racquet using the Wilson Triad technology. This is advertised as being very low in stiffness and arm friendly. I am convinced though, that it was bad serving technique which led to the original problem, and playing too long without breaks in between. Changed to Pacific Finesse which is smaller but very light, and still wondering should I add some weight to it...
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
Weight...
On serves, I think a light 10 oz racket is OK, not great, for flat serves. Maybe 11 is better, but 12.5 is too heavy FOR ME to swing at max speed.
On groundies, it totally depends how fast the incoming ball happens to go. I play 4.0, and the incoming ball is seldom fast, except for first serves. I can block first serves, so overall, the incoming ball is slow, so either a light or heavy racket works, but a light racket is easier for me to swing.
Now for you guys who face 130 mph serves and 90 mph forehands, a little heavier racket should work better.
 
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