Mitchell Frank had knee surgery and will be out until January.
http://www2.cavalierinsider.com/spo...k-out-several-months-after-knee-s-ar-2109065/
http://www2.cavalierinsider.com/spo...k-out-several-months-after-knee-s-ar-2109065/
And I don't put frank in the same league of lock status as Johnson, not even close, just ask @theotherkobe
With a game very dependent on his mobility and outlasting others, this may be a big big deal
He was pretty much unbeatable at #3. If Ohio State didn't suck on the big stage and had played UVA in the final, Frank would've outlasted Kobelt.
A meniscal tear is not great, but with proper rehab, a full recovery is almost guaranteed, especially with someone as young as Mitchell.
In the end, this type of injury should have no long-lasting ramifications. Mitchell should return to full strength and be ready for the ITA Team Indoors in February. If anyone wants to discount a guy like Frank already, you will end up regretting it come next year.
Other teams already had more than a fighting chance, don't think UVA was even my favorite for the ACC title - but I'm biased no doubt
For a team that hasn't lost to an ACC opponent in 6 or 7 years and returns 5 of their top 6 from last year's NCAA finalist.
To say they are not even the favorite in their own conference,
That's almost Fedace level bias
He was pretty much unbeatable at #3. If Ohio State didn't suck on the big stage and had played UVA in the final, Frank would've outlasted Kobelt.
not sure operative treatment and recovery of this injury is as simple as you say - a lot depends on how big the tear is and whether it's just at the periphery of the cartilage that heals much more easily
either way, no not a devastating injury and not discounting him, he'll be back playing high level tennis in a handful of months, but you never know how much of an impact even a little bit of nagging pain can have on a guy with his style of game...we shall see
or i just realize that duke wasn't far behind UVA last year (cunha losing to jenkins was the difference b/t a 4-3 win and a 4-3 loss in the regular season meeting), returns 5 of 6 as well, and gains much more in redlicki and semenzato than they lose in an often-injured wietoska
get over yourself - that trophy case is still empty - you're not the powerhouse usc is, duke isn't afraid (not that they're afraid of usc either, beating them twice in the last three years)
I made no mention that Duke is far behind UVA...Duke and UVA certainly had some competitive matches this year and they should be closer next year...It's very possible Duke may beat UVA next year.
My point was simply about the ACC for next year. If one team has a very long conference winning streak and returns nearly everyone, it's pretty reasonable to say that they remain the Conference favorite going in to the season. At least, until someone else proves they can win the conference
A similar example would be nationally last year. Coming into the 2012 spring, USC returned nearly everyone from a team that had won multiple titles. Certainly other teams could potentially beat the Trojans. However, SC had to be considered the favorite until someone proved differently. Only a very biased observer would have argued otherwise.
i'm confused by a few things in your post - starting with this [i've edited some of your comments together a bit for brevity, let me know if you think i took anything out of context]:
if Duke isn't far behind UVA, is it really fedace-like bias for someone to suggest that Duke might be the conference favorite? seems to me if two teams are quite close and either could possibly beat the other then different people might have differing rational opinions on which is more likely to pull off a conference title...no?
i disagree with your premise that a team that has success in a conference or nationally and returns most players automatically is the favorite until proven otherwise...i've seen plenty of years of college basketball where a great team gets surpassed from one year to the next despite retaining most players (whether by recruiting - I have a lot of faith in redlicki and semenzato making both big singles and big dubs impacts next year - or by players getting better - aka tahir looking awesome this summer compared to being an okay bottom of the lineup player last year)
and i can't tell you how many posts i've seen on thesabre.com in recent years predicting a national championship (sure, plenty telling these people to hold their horses on those predictions also) - were all these UVA posters exposing their fedace-level irrationality by not predicting the returning three-time champs to defend their title?
**edit - as a more concrete example - Clark predicted a lopsided victory for UVA over two-time defending champs USC before that title match in 2011 - is he just one of many fedace-like UVA fans? - not my opinion but it follows from your argument - i didn't know your opinion of him was that low...**
whatever, i indicated in my initial post that i had a bias in this game of choosing the ACC favorite for next year, but your argument that UVA is the only rational choice seems to fly in the face of your initial comments i quoted above and thousands of UVA tennis message board posts during the past few years
sorry for not bowing down to the almighty UVA ACC win streak and upsetting you...boland didn't bow down to Duke's streak of championships when he started building UVA into a top tier program - that's not a winner's attitude
MJ-
this is the type of post that is well thought out, thank you. perhaps still harsh, but most of us understand it is hard for you.
i would guess most poster would like to hear you sound a bit mote like this (mature), rather then spouting off like FedAce or slashing back at folks you disagree with.
You are learning, slowly learning.
BTW, how is school going?
thanks for entertaining us while he [fedace] has been gone
i'm confused by a few things in your post - starting with this [i've edited some of your comments together a bit for brevity, let me know if you think i took anything out of context]:
if Duke isn't far behind UVA, is it really fedace-like bias for someone to suggest that Duke might be the conference favorite? seems to me if two teams are quite close and either could possibly beat the other then different people might have differing rational opinions on which is more likely to pull off a conference title...no?
i disagree with your premise that a team that has success in a conference or nationally and returns most players automatically is the favorite until proven otherwise...i've seen plenty of years of college basketball where a great team gets surpassed from one year to the next despite retaining most players (whether by recruiting - I have a lot of faith in redlicki and semenzato making both big singles and big dubs impacts next year - or by players getting better - aka tahir looking awesome this summer compared to being an okay bottom of the lineup player last year)
and i can't tell you how many posts i've seen on thesabre.com in recent years predicting a national championship (sure, plenty telling these people to hold their horses on those predictions also) - were all these UVA posters exposing their fedace-level irrationality by not predicting the returning three-time champs to defend their title?
**edit - as a more concrete example - Clark predicted a lopsided victory for UVA over two-time defending champs USC before that title match in 2011 - is he just one of many fedace-like UVA fans? - not my opinion but it follows from your argument - i didn't know your opinion of him was that low...**
whatever, i indicated in my initial post that i had a bias in this game of choosing the ACC favorite for next year, but your argument that UVA is the only rational choice seems to fly in the face of your initial comments i quoted above and thousands of UVA tennis message board posts during the past few years
sorry for not bowing down to the almighty UVA ACC win streak and upsetting you...boland didn't bow down to Duke's streak of championships when he started building UVA into a top tier program - that's not a winner's attitude
**edit - as a more concrete example - Clark predicted a lopsided victory for UVA over two-time defending champs USC before that title match in 2011 - is he just one of many fedace-like UVA fans? - not my opinion but it follows from your argument - i didn't know your opinion of him was that low...**
Just to set the record straight........(an hour later)...................Stanford loss?
get over yourself - that trophy case is still empty - you're not the powerhouse usc is, duke isn't afraid (not that they're afraid of usc either, beating them twice in the last three years)