Volkl Organix X10 Mid

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Hominator

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Heads up - just got word that the X10 mid is in development. Prototypes currently being tested. Final specs still under consideration.

For those of you who are interested in this frame, what would you like to see?

I'll start: personally, I'd like the hoop to be stiffer, to minimize the flutter in the upper hoop upon contact. I'm thinking the Organix material in the right places should accomplish this. Also hope it retains the same head shape with wider shoulders (lower hoop).

Can't wait to try this one out - I've been waiting for this one for almost 2 years...
 
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Korso

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Nice! I would definitely like to see more stability in the upper hoop without the use of lead tape.
 
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jhusein said:
Agree with the above. Any one knows when this long awaited O-X10 Mid would be released! Thanks.
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This is just a guess, but based on playtesting and production timelines, not until sometime in 2013, but it's definitely coming.

Hasn't Volkl traditionally launched their new frames in Spring...?
 
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Hominator

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Pics of the X10 mid posted with permission from Volkl. Head shape is nearly identical to that of the PB10 mid.

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drummerdan

drummerdan

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I want to get my hands on one of those frames. It's hard to imagine that the Mid10 can be improved. LOVE mine!
 
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Hi I'm Ray

Professional
The PB10 Mid is gonna be hard to top. Nice black pj on the new version, though not liking the white parts too much.
 
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Hominator

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While the accents look white, they're actually silver.

Also, the flutter from the upper hoop - a common complaint of the PB10 mid - is completely gone now.

And of course, the feel of the frame is different from the PB10 mid because of the Organix material. The Organix makes it feel more "modern."
 
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jayserinos99

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Hominator, so the feel of the x10mid is very similar to the x10mp or is the feel like a pb10mid but w/o the upper hoop looseness/flutter?
 
Meaghan

Meaghan

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Hom, have the kept the same mold as the pb? The x10 mp I love but I wish it still had the c10 skinny throat.......
 
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Hominator

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jayserinos99 said:
Hominator, so the feel of the x10mid is very similar to the x10mp or is the feel like a pb10mid but w/o the upper hoop looseness/flutter?
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The new X10 mid doesn't have the same softer flex or wobble as the PB10 mid, due to the Organix at the poles. It still feels soft, but not "flexible soft," if that makes sense.
 
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drummerdan said:
How do you define "modern"? Is it due to the stiffness?
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The frame is overall stiffer and has less dwell time than the PB10 mid, due to the Organix. With the X10 mid, balls hit above the sweetspot towards 12:00 come off with a lot of bite and good power, where the PB10 mid would flutter a bit, if you didn't lead it at 10/2.

To me, a modern feel is a quick response off the string bed. In contrast, a more traditional feel has more dwell time. The stick is also very stable with little need for additional lead tape.
 
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Hominator

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Meaghan said:
Hom, have the kept the same mold as the pb? The x10 mp I love but I wish it still had the c10 skinny throat.......
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I think so. It seems to me that they pretty much kept the same mold as the PB10 mid, except for the slight Organix bulges in the hoop and the vibration system near the handle. Here's a better pic of the throat for you:

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Meaghan

Meaghan

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Hominator said:
I think so. It seems to me that they pretty much kept the same mold as the PB10 mid, except for the slight Organix bulges in the hoop and the vibration system near the handle. Here's a better pic of the throat for you:

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Thanks H,
The hoop on the mp is superb imo but I do miss the manoeuvrability the thinner volkl throats provide, esp at net when weighted up. I expect this will be some racket, have you hit with it yet?
 
drummerdan

drummerdan

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Hominator said:
To me, a modern feel is a quick response off the string bed. In contrast, a more traditional feel has more dwell time. The stick is also very stable with little need for additional lead tape.
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Yeah, this is how I define the "modern" racquet, too. All of us who play the PB10 know about the "flutter". And coming from a stiff racquet it's a little weird but we also know how great this stick is to play. I love it and would like to see it slightly stiffer so this new model might be awesome.

Any specifics as to when it might be out?
 
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Samuka said:
Hi Hominator !

The big question: have you decided to change to organix? :confused:

Cheers
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I think it's inevitable that I'll get a few to mess around with, but I'm very happy with my Dunlop 3.0 F Tours. I've been training more seriously for tournaments this coming year, so I need to just stick with one frame.

...for now :)
 
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Benske

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I am a current pb10 user. If this racquet adresses the upper hoop flutter; this will be my number 1 option to switch to. Otherwise, this is a big enough annoyance for me that i am looking to switch sooner rather than later. Hopefully an early 13 entry?

Anyone have any other worthy considerations? vcore89, blade93?

5.0 all-court, heavy spin, 1hbh.

Cheers.
 
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Benske said:
I am a current pb10 user. If this racquet adresses the upper hoop flutter; this will be my number 1 option to switch to. Otherwise, this is a big enough annoyance for me that i am looking to switch sooner rather than later. Hopefully an early 13 entry?

Anyone have any other worthy considerations? vcore89, blade93?

5.0 all-court, heavy spin, 1hbh.

Cheers.
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Have you tried a little lead at 10/2 on each side of the frame?

I had the same complaint, but just a very little amount of lead tape at those points completely solved the problem. I was very surprised that such little weight could change the feel so dramatically.
 
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Benske

New User
Hom,
Thanks. Yes I have tried 10 and 2, 3 and 6. Current setup is tape from 10 to 2 counter weighted in the handle... Seems to be best setup for me so far.
 
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Korso

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Benske said:
I am a current pb10 user. If this racquet adresses the upper hoop flutter; this will be my number 1 option to switch to. Otherwise, this is a big enough annoyance for me that i am looking to switch sooner rather than later. Hopefully an early 13 entry?

Anyone have any other worthy considerations? vcore89, blade93?

5.0 all-court, heavy spin, 1hbh.

Cheers.
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I switched briefly to the Vcore89 but ended up coming back to the PB10 mid. I hit my one handed backhands better with the Vcore89 but never could really dial in my forehand enough to be a consistant weapon. The Vcore89 is still a great racket and I hit with it from time to time.
 
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Hominator

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Volkl Organix 10 Mid Prototypes

I received the two X10 mid prototypes this weekend from one of the Volkl playesters in the US and took them for a hit. My thoughts on the sticks forthcoming, but in the meantime, please enjoy the pics:

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jankustra

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I can not wait to test it! volkl PB10mid is best racket ever... new type looks very nice(volkl on side have to be white for me...) but I will test new frame before buy one...
 
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corners said:
Looks to be a box beam from the pics. Interesting. Head shape looks roughly the same though.
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It's actually not a box beam - it has the same frame shape as th PB10 Mid, with the exception of the Organix at the poles. Head shape is identical to the PB10 Mid.
 
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Sage said:
Does anyone know the exact date when this will available at TW?
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Just learned that TW will likely have this for pre-sale sometime late next week. Release date should be sometime between then and February 1st.

Hitting with the stick again tonight before I post my thoughts on the frame.
 
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BoingTennis

New User
Great early surprise for 2013 :)

BTW, seems like the Organix Mid is considerably lighter and more head heavy than the PB10M.

I wonder how that's gonna change the characteristic compared to the PB10M
 
Matchball

Matchball

Semi-Pro
It seems like they wanted to open up the frame specs to more people. Looking forward to some comments - especially a comparison with PB 10.
 
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APG

Rookie
Hominator said:
Just learned that TW will likely have this for pre-sale sometime late next week. Release date should be sometime between then and February 1st.

Hitting with the stick again tonight before I post my thoughts on the frame.
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Hominator,
What is your take on the X10 Mid?
Will look forward to your observations.
I was also curious about your Volkl play testers impression. Does it string tight like the X10325.
 
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MesQueUnClub

MesQueUnClub

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Current PB10 mid user. I would love to hear hominator's comparison of the 2 racquets as well...atleast some early impressions
 
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