The Church of Polystringism-- Alidisperanza's PT Thread

fgs

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i don't really think it is the multi - basically i play hybrids with mainly shaped polys and the mcs as cross most of the time and i do develop with this set-up considerable spin. i did try some fullbed polys and there was not more spin as compared to the hybrids.
i'm sure that the multi basically prevented the kevlar from sliding and a poly as a cross would have allowed for less friction, but i doubt that i would have liked the feeling of such a combination. in my young years i played very high tensions - 32kg in wooden sticks - but that was with gut. so it's not so much the stiffness of the stringbed that put me off, it's more the lack of response.
 

alidisperanza

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i don't really think it is the multi - basically i play hybrids with mainly shaped polys and the mcs as cross most of the time and i do develop with this set-up considerable spin. i did try some fullbed polys and there was not more spin as compared to the hybrids.
i'm sure that the multi basically prevented the kevlar from sliding and a poly as a cross would have allowed for less friction, but i doubt that i would have liked the feeling of such a combination. in my young years i played very high tensions - 32kg in wooden sticks - but that was with gut. so it's not so much the stiffness of the stringbed that put me off, it's more the lack of response.

Got it. See, I'm the reverse. The muted quality of the kevlar doesn't bother me at all so long as I still get the desired spin. I actually like the sheer neutrality, haha. For some reason when I play with Multi I feel as if the ball is sliding off the strings. Perhaps it's my style of stroke, or it's just in my head but I can't quite get past it.
 

fgs

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i think that my issue with kevlar comes from the fact that i tend to hit up around the sixth cross - so kevlar having a rather dead response would require me to swing for my life in order to get a decent ball over the net. the response outside the sweetspot is pretty dead, even with a softer cross as i had to play.
 

alidisperanza

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You see the pics I posted in your thread? Not too sure how I feel about the new cosmetics. I tried and I tried and I tried but they didn't want to release one to demo. I should have my hands on one by Jan
 

alidisperanza

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Some updates to the kevlar rig. Still good but once I got to hit at a more demanding pace against a much higher level player, I had to switch to a full bed of b7 to stay competitive.
 

swfh

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Well, so much for that idea, guess it will have to wait till the outdoor season.

Only two or three months to go until we start getting nice weekends here and there.

J

I suppose so. I'll work on getting a video of me playing in the coming months. Sandy really messed up my favorite clay courts and they need some serious work. Good news is that they might install lights for night tennis. I recall a day in the 60's around this time last year...

On a side note, how much crisper is BHS compared to BHBR. can anyone compare the spin potential?
thanks
 
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alidisperanza

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I suppose so. I'll work on getting a video of me playing in the coming months. Sandy really messed up my favorite clay courts and they need some serious work. Good news is that they might install lights for night tennis. I recall a day in the 60's around this time last year...

On a side note, how much crisper is BHS compared to BHBR. can anyone compare the spin potential?
thanks

I really didn't see the huge difference that some BH fans tout. Silver is a bit crisper, and more predictable than Blue. The best way I can describe it is that silver bites a bit more and gives a bit more of a linear shot. Blue pockets a touch better and gives you that extra "Hmm, that should have been out" factor. Personally, I liked Silver better than Blue but that's just me (Note, I also played them in 2 different frames). Generally though, I don't like surprises with my string bed. A perfect example would be Dunlop Black Widow. Fantastic spin potential, super comfortable. Horrific tension maintenance. From one play to the next it's drastically different.
 

alidisperanza

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*rattles chains* *makes ghost noises*

Hi guys! 3 years of law school, a torn achilles, some dusty racquets and way too many popped strings later and it seems like I'm back on the court! Any suggestions/ recommendations for new strings on the market?

-Ant
 

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*rattles chains* *makes ghost noises*

Hi guys! 3 years of law school, a torn achilles, some dusty racquets and way too many popped strings later and it seems like I'm back on the court! Any suggestions/ recommendations for new strings on the market?

-Ant

Wilson Revolve :)
 

alidisperanza

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Sorry guys, I wasn't able to get my hands on any PTP or revolve. I switched over to the dark side and am playing with 2012 Pure Drives now though so I should be getting more play time. Will place an order soon and add those to the list.
 

alidisperanza

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Hi all! Been playing enough again to warrant a review.

TOURBITE DIAMOND ROUGH 17

Frame: Graphene Prestige MP 18x20
String: TourBite Diamond Rough 17
Tension: 52/51


Stringing:
Nothing is hard to string anymore in the low 50lb range but jeez, this stuff makes a ton of noise as you're sawing, errr.. I mean gently guiding it through the crosses. I can see this being a pain in the butt in the high 50-60s range. Generally the stiff is pretty string and has decent coil memory. Heads up if you're in a rush, it'll catch on everything and anything and kink if your angles aren't obtuse.

Ground Strokes:

Nothing particularly impressive. For all the hoopla about diamond shape and textured string, I found the original TourBite to be much more effective. Granted, the string doesn't play badly but I really didn't see any benefits to playing with this string unless you're whipping the ball around at a high speed. For simple rallies/ warmup it felt boardy and fairly mute. I played a "zone" with light hitting and tried to focus on sharp cross court angles and didn't feel like I benefited from any of the tech. The only time I noticed a difference was after switching frames from Head Sonic Pro Edge back to the TBDR at full-swing.

Serves:
Again, nothing special. It does the job pretty nicely and will impart spin where you need it. Nothing really stood out though. One pro is that even after the strings started shifting, they still retained enough control to "go for it"

Volleys:

Sorry to be repetitive but extra-mediocre. Neither particularly good nor bad. Did the job when needed.

Serves:

Durability/Tension Maintenance:
This area is a bit of a conundrum to me nowadays. Tension maintenance I can still detect but I no longer pop strings at the rate I used to (2h poly). I haven't popped a string in approximately 8h of play. Strings started to lose the snap around the 4h mark but are still playable at the 8h mark. Tension has been fairly consistent over the life of the string but it's also a lot harder to detect in the 18x20 Prestige. After the 4h mark, I think the strings settled and haven't changed much. Likely will cut once my reel of BHB7 comes in.

Overall, I'm a bit disappointed. TourBite was a great string, just a bit too expensive for my taste. With all the "tech" in this string I expected a lot more. Fun playtest but definitely out of the rotation.

Groundstrokes: 3.5/5
Serves:4/5 Plus in spin serves, minus in flat. Decent feel which nets the extra .5
Volleys:3.5/5 Neither good nor bad. Does what it should
Spin:3.7/5 Above average but nothing to brag about.
Power:3/5
Comfort:4/5
Tension:4/5
 

alidisperanza

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HEAD SONIC PRO EDGE

Frame: Graphene Prestige MP 18x20
String: See above
Tension: 51


Stringing:
I've now strung this in multiple frames at both high and low tensions. The string is pretty slippery to the touch and moves nicely though crosses. Fairly stiff in the coils but surprisingly doesn't play that way. Overall an easy string to work with. Feels like a sharp board at 60lbs!

Ground Strokes:

I'd describe this string as powerful but mute. The pop and pocketing at 51lbs is fantastic yet there's absolutely no feel for me. There was no sense of whether the ball was going to land short, on the line or deep. Hitting flat with this stuff is fantastic and comfortable whether you're swinging half-speed or all out. Getting balls to dive is a bit tricky though. The ball feels like it's sliding more than biting coming off the string bed. I'm sure that I could solve this issue by bumping to 53lbs.

**Extra Notes** I strung this in a graphene speed at 58 for someone and advised that I had a hunch it would be too stiff and would cause discomfort. As a former chiropractor, he assured me he's never had issues and has "proper strokes". Sure enough he came back 3 weeks later asking for different strings with TE. Take his experience with a grain of salt. In my frame at 51 I didn't have this issue at all.

Serves:
Holy trampoline batman! The pocketing/pop is even more pronounced here. The ball jumps off the strings for flat serves and feels great. Spin serves are questionable. To me, the uncertainty element of not knowing where/how the ball is going to land with a slice or a kick serve is uncanny. If I can keep bombing flat serves, this string is a 10/10 but the second my percentage drops, I can see it become trouble.

Volleys:

This was definitely my favorite aspect of this string. Volleys feel great punching into the ball. Pocketing is top notch and the snap is an added bonus. As a player that has stone hands, touch and "cute" shots are not my forte so the lack of feedback isn't an issue. The string will also comfortably return hard balls that are off center without jarring your arm.

Serves:

Durability/Tension Maintenance:
At first the string played a bit stiffer which was ok but after an hour the bed settled consistently. Tension has been slowly but surely dropping and generally hitting feels more mushy/uncontrolled. I'm currently at about 6 hours on this set and I'm a bit more than halfway through notched. I'm also about ready to cut the strings more for the slow drop in tension and control than anything else. If I string up another set it'll be at 53#

Overall, I'm surprised to hear that there was such a difference in impression from 51 to 58lbs. My experience is that this is a flat-hitter's dream if you're not focused on dipping angles. So far it's been great for doubles and hitting practice but personally I'd like to have more feedback from the strings. If 53# solves this problem, It's def an enjoyable play.

Groundstrokes: 4/5-- definitely a flat, pace oriented string.
Serves:4/5 Bombs for flat +2. Spin is ok but unpredictable -1.
Volleys:3.5-4/5 Great pocketing. No feedback. +1 personally because it works for my style of playing
Spin:3.5/5 Where's the feedback?
Power: 4.5/5
Comfort: 4/5
Tension: 3.5/5
 
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alidisperanza

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Hi all, finally got back on court after some serious time off. Any new strings that are hot on the market?

Also curious to hear what polys/ hybrid setups people are playing in their Prestiges nowadays.
 

alidisperanza

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Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 17 x Kirshbaum Synthetic Gut 16

Frame: Graphene Prestige MP 18x20
String: see above
Tension: 48x50

This was a bit of a lark for me. I was lazy one night after stringing a full bed of BHB7 and threw the syngut in there. Turns out it plays well. My game has changed substantially in the past two years where I hit with a significantly less amount of spin and don't pop strings as often anymore. This combination plays nicely to that effect.

Stringing:
BHB7 is my current go-to. It's easy to string and doesn't cause problems unless you kink it. Not too bad on the fingers either with the edges. (Recently picked up a foot-long hanger of Gamma TNT Ruff and automatically cringed). Kirshbaum Synth is super easy too. A bit floppy and almost has a mild gummy texture to it. Not the best choice to push through blocked groms.

Ground Strokes:
Great ability to step into the ball with enough bite (when fresh) to keep the ball dipping to the baseline. I noticed more pronounced spin off a OHBH than on my forehand which was curious. Trajectory was decidedly lower than a full bed of poly but that was to be expected. Very nice feel and pocketing to the ball but definitely a little more mute than my preferred setup. Slices will stay low off the bounce but have a bit of a floating quality on the way there which gives your opponent more time to set up and adjust. I had a friend with a laser-drive slice hit a couple and he had a similar experience. Definitely not an offensive slice string but effective to change the pace of the game.

Serves:
I can't say I served overly much with this setup as my shoulder has been bothering me. From what I gathered, it's comfortable. Spin is moderate to average but you're not getting anything extra out of the string. Decent directional control but a bit mute for the scalpel prestige which is mildly unsettling.

Volleys:

"Bland" is the word I would choose. It's the steamed chicken and brown rice of the tennis world. No extra pop, no extra slice. It does what you ask it to do but won't make you go, "whoah, do that again!" Overall I noticed a drop in the depth of my volleys. When I'm in the zone (read-- have food and caffeine in my system) and moving my feet it's not an issue at all. But when I go King-slayer to Golden-hand Jamie, it really shows--opponents start scooping up the ball for an extra exchange. Sneaky, SNEAKY ability to hit drop volleys. What the hell, when did I learn to do those?


Durability/Tension Maintenance: Disclaimer-- I don't go through strings like a 13 year old with black-market cable and a tissue box anymore.

Overall I was surprised at the playability of this hybrid. I now play approximately 4h a week with an adult "zone" that ranges from 4.0-5.0; about 1h of cooperative doubles work and the rest as doubles live-ball games. I've logged about 9 hours on this stick and it held up admirably for a string job that cost me about $5. For the first 2h it was awesome and I was set and convinced it was a viable go-to. Aside from the lack of depth with the volleys I was happy to play with it. The real turning point came about 5-6 hours. It was still playable but didn't inspire the same confidence as fresh. After 6 I'd relegate it to a "hitting" stick if I had more than 2 prestiges in my current rotation. At 9h it's pretty notched and ready to cut. If I drill or hit singles, it'll pop. On the bright side, it doesn't feel like the frame got loose, just lost that magic quality.


Overall a happy play-test. I'd have no issue stringing it again but would definitely prefer a crisper cross. Since I'm not playing matches at the moment, it's viable for my personal needs. Ultimately though, I think that the Kirshbaum is a bit too mushy/soft for my taste . I'd like to see a bit more access to spin and punch on the volleys. Based on the way the frame feels and my observation of the string-bed, I think the snap-back of the mains dropped off around the 4h mark due to notching, and the general gumminess of the Kirshbaum. Very interested to see how this plays compared to the HEAD Syn PPS.

Recommendations: Medium spin-flat player that's looking for a comfortable hybrid on the cheap. Decent ball pocketing with slightly above average control. Could potentially be a good alternative to users who cross with multi.

Groundstrokes: 3.5-4/5
Serves: Not enough testing
Volleys: 3/5
Spin:3.5/5 Good directional control and depth when fresh. Nothing impressive, no dippers
Power: 3.5/5 Diminishing returns. You can swing out but there's definitely a terminal point. Never felt like I hit a blistering winner.
Comfort: 4.5/5
Tension: 4/5
 
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