How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?
I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?
How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?
I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?
I could partner with you, which ought to help.
Depends ... I have a buddy that was a top 4.5 had his knees replaced and two discs fused. He sat out 2 years, has gone 2-12 in the three years since and is still a 4.5.
How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?
I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?
Try not to win more than 1 game per set or you probably wont get bumped down.
I have not won a match in 3 yrs and still stuck at 5.0
How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?
I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?
Assuming that you've actually been playing matches during that time, that's just ridiculous.
why not improve your game and start winning matches?
What a waste of time. How did you end up at a level so far above your ability that you'll waste yours and other peoples time for a season or two just to change it?
It would be interesting to see/know the actual record of the OP to see if 4.5 is really a level so far above their ability, or if this is another case of someone just wanting to win every match which they are unable to do at 4.5.
OP, care to share a link to your status on TennisLink or let us know your record the past 3 years?
I hope you are not playing doubles..I feel for your team mates
Didn't he file for a medical appeal? Maybe he should have just sat out one more year so his computer rating was no longer valid and then he could have self-rated all over again.
Assuming that you've actually been playing matches during that time, that's just ridiculous.
How many matches do I have to lose to move from let's say 4.5 to 4.0?
I am planning on a 0-8 record this year for the 18 and over leagues. Is that enough?
6-0 sets dont count towards your rating. 6-1 is the worst score you can lose by. Also if you play 6 matches or more you cant appeal.
This is the strangest bump I've ever seen:
http://tennislink.usta.com/Leagues/...751BE093F705A46B6A59780F4E0D&par2=2012&par3=0
0-6 and gets bumped? Really?
Jlyon posted his name a couple of months ago. I looked him up and he is not lying about this.
However, if I remember correctly he plays in a small league and probably only plays a few matches a year.
Not so strange when you look at the details.
First, he only played 2 adult matches so those aren't used and he get a mixed exclusive rating from the 4 mixed matches. And yes, he lost all 4, but they were all close, including 2 where he won a set and was even or just -1 on game differential.
But the kicker is that he was playing 8.0 mixed as a 4.0 with a 3.5 partner. Given this, and especially if the partner wasn't a strong 3.5, they were likely supposed to lose these 8.0 matches, probably by more than they did. So their very competitive results against likely stronger opponents indicated he was playing better than his rating and he got bumped.
I understand how the math actually works, but it's still a flaw when the formula bumps you for losing every match. One of the adult losses is to me. The guy is an average 4.0 who drew a couple short straws in adult play (I was 14-2 at 4.0 and the other guy is actually a 4.5 player who was sandbagging last year). He could easily compete in 4.0, but the system has just pretty much excluded him from playing adult again (unless they grant an appeal since he would have to self-rate again with an M-rating for adult).
I understand how the math actually works, but it's still a flaw when the formula bumps you for losing every match. One of the adult losses is to me. The guy is an average 4.0 who drew a couple short straws in adult play (I was 14-2 at 4.0 and the other guy is actually a 4.5 player who was sandbagging last year). He could easily compete in 4.0, but the system has just pretty much excluded him from playing adult again (unless they grant an appeal since he would have to self-rate again with an M-rating for adult).
Not so strange when you look at the details.
First, he only played 2 adult matches so those aren't used and he get a mixed exclusive rating from the 4 mixed matches. And yes, he lost all 4, but they were all close, including 2 where he won a set and was even or just -1 on game differential.
But the kicker is that he was playing 8.0 mixed as a 4.0 with a 3.5 partner. Given this, and especially if the partner wasn't a strong 3.5, they were likely supposed to lose these 8.0 matches, probably by more than they did. So their very competitive results against likely stronger opponents indicated he was playing better than his rating and he got bumped.
Does that mean this player is still a self-rated 4.0 as far as same-sex league play is concerned?
Does that mean this player is still a self-rated 4.0 as far as same-sex league play is concerned?
Thanks to you both. I was just curious how this situation would be handled since the player had apparently already self-rated at 4.0 and played two matches in addition to the 4 8.0 mixed matches.
That is an odd quirk of the system. I didn't realize there was such a connection between a mixed exclusive rating and a subsequent adult same sex rating.
The real question is, if he self-rates for adult, regardless of whether he appeals down to 4.0 or not, do the two matches played last year count toward a dynamic rating? In other words, he should have some kind of dynamic rating from the two adult matches, so if he plays one more adult match, do those three adult matches then generate a YE C rating and therefore bypass the mixed results that generated a 4.5M rating? If so, even if he tries to appeal and is denied, he could conceivably sign up for 4.5 adult, play one match and get thrashed (he would even have to throw it - he's not a 4.5 player...), and hope that the three adult matches override the mixed ratings and bump him back down to 4.0.
Except that the OP is apparently a woman (I forensically analyzed some previous posts), I agree 100%. I guess MTFU still applies even then.For days I've been thinking about posting a long-winded comment about how the OP should take the opportunity to test himself, up his game, learn from superior opponents, and so on. But, I realized that all my thoughts on the subject could be better summarized in four letters: MTFU.
Seriously.
Great question and one I don't have the answer for nor have I seen folks speculate on the answer. So hopefully someone will in response to this!
My assumption has been that the 2 matches from last year don't count and he really starts this year with a new self-rating, i.e. no dynamic rating. But I could be wrong.
A similar question is, once you have a YE C rating, do you start the next year with that rating alone or does your history (past 3 dynamic ratings) carry over for averaging purposes to calculate your new rating? I've also assumed the history doesn't carry over but could be wrong here too.
Answers or educated guesses welcome.
This thread is a testament to why USTA is a joke. If you play to your actual rating eventually you will run into sandbaggers that pull this crap... And for what? For a chance to make it to Disticts or Sectionals to play against OTHER teams stacked with sandbaggers? It's pathetic.