M1000 Monte Carlo - Grigor Dimitrov vs. [3] Rafael Nadal

Well, what's gonna happen?

  • Dimitrov in 2

    Votes: 3 5.2%
  • Dimitrov in 3

    Votes: 10 17.2%
  • Nadal in 2

    Votes: 35 60.3%
  • Nadal 3

    Votes: 10 17.2%

  • Total voters
    58

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
The Dimitrov backhand held up really well, but one of the reasons why is because he was willing to back up 10-12 feet behind the baseline and let the ball drop more before he hit it back. Fed doesn't back up as far against Nadal which leads to shanks and leaving the ball weak in the middle of the court. If he can move that much backward and forward without cramping he matches up well with Nadal with the strength of his forehand (heaviness) and gets some cheap points on his serve. Dimitrov is also able to hit his backhand high and heavy back off that Nadal forehand with big net clearance which gives him a chance to stay in the point while keeping Nadal from attacking. Fed doesn't play that ball off his own backhand high and heavy enough to neutralize the Nadal forehand.

I haven't yet caught the highlights, but I am equally curious to know how Dimi's 1HBH stood up to Nadal's FH attack. Some interesting points there, thanks.
 

eliars

Hall of Fame
Your first paragraph, spot on. I think we're singing from the same hymn sheet, but have crossed wires. The shot I refer to as (subjectively) ugly is his effective forehand that clears the net and kicks like a mule. It works very well for him, so why not use it? On occasion, yes, he moonballs, that was my point also.

The remaining paragraphs... Thank you for taking the time to eloquently write up your opinion on his level of play/tactics upon return recently. I haven't seen many of his matches, so it's good to see someone who has write how/why they think he's doing what he's doing. Your points a and b are very plausible and make sense.

You're welcome. Glad we can have a proper discussion :)
 

Legend of Borg

G.O.A.T.
The Dimitrov backhand held up really well, but one of the reasons why is because he was willing to back up 10-12 feet behind the baseline and let the ball drop more before he hit it back. Fed doesn't back up as far against Nadal which leads to shanks and leaving the ball weak in the middle of the court. If he can move that much backward and forward without cramping he matches up well with Nadal with the strength of his forehand (heaviness) and gets some cheap points on his serve. Dimitrov is also able to hit his backhand high and heavy back off that Nadal forehand with big net clearance which gives him a chance to stay in the point while keeping Nadal from attacking. Fed doesn't play that ball off his own backhand high and heavy enough to neutralize the Nadal forehand.

So basically, Fed is really stubborn?
 

Marius_Hancu

Talk Tennis Guru
Dimitrov's BH slice on clay yesterday was really knifed low, better than Federer's in matches with Nadal, as several times Nadal failed to process it
 

VAMOSDNA

Banned
Zeballos/Nadal was a really awesome match but its a shame it was in the final of a 250 tourny. This one, because it was in Monte Carlo, is a slight favorite because I love the way Dimitrov plays contrasted to Rafa.

I agree, it is the perfect contrast. Fedal is being replaced by Dimidal. Hope they meet at the slams like Fedal did.
 

Leelord337

Hall of Fame
I agree, it is the perfect contrast. Fedal is being replaced by Dimidal. Hope they meet at the slams like Fedal did.

I sure hope so too. Dimitrov reminds me of a young/ (less finely tuned) Federer in ways. He comes up with ridiculous shots but seems more slap happy. The backhand is similar but I think Dimitrov gets a bit more topspin off that side than Roger. Some of those topspin backhands were kicking crazy high to Rafa, lol.
 

tusharlovesrafa

Hall of Fame
I sure hope so too. Dimitrov reminds me of a young/ (less finely tuned) Federer in ways. He comes up with ridiculous shots but seems more slap happy. The backhand is similar but I think Dimitrov gets a bit more topspin off that side than Roger. Some of those topspin backhands were kicking crazy high to Rafa, lol.

LOL yeah,that was insane,never seen anyone with a one hander get that much depth and kick of the surface specially against rafa.But I don't think he has the FOREHAND that fed possessed,may be we need to wait then see.:)
 
LOL yeah,that was insane,never seen anyone with a one hander get that much depth and kick of the surface specially against rafa.But I don't think he has the FOREHAND that fed possessed,may be we need to wait then see.:)

not fair critique though, prime Fed forehand is GOAT forehand, can't expect the kid to have that shot down to a T. His forehand is great though, and he can definitely rip it.

Actually his serve, forehand and backhand are all solid.
 

WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
Dmitrov's movement and forehand are sh*t compared to young Fed's, but I'm still a fan.

I don't think he's that similar to Fed. People really reached with that one, although I'd have to see him play on HC and grass. Not as bad as the Gasquet comparisons though.
 

VAMOSDNA

Banned
Dimi's retrieving skills were excellent in the Nadal match, until the cramps.

He's not a clone of Federer. But he's an extremely talented single-hander, so the comparisons are unavoidable.
 
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