2013 Davis Cup Semifinal: CANADA vs SERBIA

Down_the_line

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2013 Davis Cup - World Group Semifinal
Canada vs. Serbia
September 13 - 15
Belgrade Arena - Belgrade, Serbia
Surface: Red clay, indoors

Head to Head: First meeting​


Team Canada:

Milos Raonic
-ATP singles rank: 11

Vasek Pospisil
-ATP singles rank: 41

Frank Dancevic
-ATP singles rank: 135

Daniel Nestor
-ATP doubles rank: 13


Team Serbia:

Novak Djokovic
-ATP singles rank: 1

Janko Tipsarevic
-ATP singles rank: 23

Dusan Lajovic
-ATP singles rank: 142

Nenad Zimonjic
-ATP doubles rank: 12
 
Down_the_line

Down_the_line

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I think Canada can definitely take 2 rubbers here: Raonic vs Tipsarevic and Nestor/Pospisil vs Zimonjic and whoever in doubles. It really will come down to, who can take that 3rd rubber?
 
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papertank

Hall of Fame
It will probably come down to if Vasek can beat Tipsarevic, which given both player's form right now is very possible. It would be the biggest win of his career. Novak should win both matches, and Raonic should beat Tipsarevic. The Canadians will be the favorite in doubles but not an overwhelming one.
 
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coolboarder

Rookie
Milos and Novak have never met and everybody assumes that Novak will win. How do we predict that Novak will win for sure? If there is history with the head to head, then it would be easier to predict the match. That is the best part of this is that the match is played on the tennis court, not on the paper. Upsets do happen and I think this could be one of them. My pet peeve of the prediction based on the rankings, not the h2h stats, even it is their first ever meeting.

Now, Novak will have the jet-lag and we are not so sure if Milos and Novak will actually have a match as the strategy from Serbia could be based on how Serbia play the tie and rest Novak on the day 1. If there is an upset on the day 1, you can bet that there will be likely dead rubber on day 3.
 
ilovetennis212

ilovetennis212

Professional
Novak will pull out his Davis cup matches if he is smart to defend titles in china and shanghai.
Novak won't be able defend his two titles in Asia and give no.1 ranking to rafa if Novak plays Davis cup matches.
 
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CDNguy87

Hall of Fame
coolboarder said:
Milos and Novak have never met and everybody assumes that Novak will win. How do we predict that Novak will win for sure? If there is history with the head to head, then it would be easier to predict the match. That is the best part of this is that the match is played on the tennis court, not on the paper. Upsets do happen and I think this could be one of them. My pet peeve of the prediction based on the rankings, not the h2h stats, even it is their first ever meeting.

Now, Novak will have the jet-lag and we are not so sure if Milos and Novak will actually have a match as the strategy from Serbia could be based on how Serbia play the tie and rest Novak on the day 1. If there is an upset on the day 1, you can bet that there will be likely dead rubber on day 3.
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Another important thing to consider is that Novak has a relatively weak record against big-servers. See for example his negative H2H against Roddick and his 2 upset losses the last couple of years to Isner.
 
ruerooo

ruerooo

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clayqueen said:
Nole and Raonic have never played each other. That should be interesting.
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There was an article heavily quoting Milos - I think "Amelie Mauresmo" (or the poster posing as her) posted it - all about how serious he was about "taking it to" Serbia, and how much he believed the Canadians had the team & tools to accomplish it.

I'm guessing he had to have interviewed for it before the US Open final, because Nole will be looking for something to obliterate.
 
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papertank

Hall of Fame
coolboarder said:
Milos and Novak have never met and everybody assumes that Novak will win. How do we predict that Novak will win for sure? If there is history with the head to head, then it would be easier to predict the match. That is the best part of this is that the match is played on the tennis court, not on the paper. Upsets do happen and I think this could be one of them. My pet peeve of the prediction based on the rankings, not the h2h stats, even it is their first ever meeting.

Now, Novak will have the jet-lag and we are not so sure if Milos and Novak will actually have a match as the strategy from Serbia could be based on how Serbia play the tie and rest Novak on the day 1. If there is an upset on the day 1, you can bet that there will be likely dead rubber on day 3.
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I just don't think Milos has the potential to take out Djokovic yet. Each time Isner has upset Djokovic his serve has played a big part but he also took it to Djokovic in rallies. Milos just isn't consistent enough to do that for an entire match against Djokovic, and his serve honestly hasn't looked as great this year as it has in other years so he can't solely rely on it. I'd love for Milos to get this upset, but I just don't see it.
 
Gonzo_style

Gonzo_style

Hall of Fame
ilovetennis212 said:
Novak will pull out his Davis cup matches if he is smart to defend titles in china and shanghai.
Novak won't be able defend his two titles in Asia and give no.1 ranking to rafa if Novak plays Davis cup matches.
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Disagree with this.
#1 is already lost, Nadal needs QF at Shanghai to replace Djokovic on #1.
For Djokovic, it would be better to skip Shanghai and Beijing and to focus on Davis Cup and WTFs.
I would suggest him to play a few matches in Paris as a warm-up for WTFs.
 
Strategy

Strategy

Semi-Pro
I'm happy to see Canada win but I think the run stops here. Unless Novak pulls out, I don't see them pulling off the upset. I can't even see Pospisil beating Tipsarevic..
 
JadeC

JadeC

Hall of Fame
Good. More tennis so I can forget about that US Open final. :(
Though I think Canada has a good chance of taking this tie.
 
ilovetennis212

ilovetennis212

Professional
Gonzo_style said:
#1 is already lost, Nadal needs QF at Shanghai to replace Djokovic on #1.
For Djokovic, it would be better to skip Shanghai and Beijing and to focus on Davis Cup and WTFs.
I would suggest him to play a few matches in Paris as a warm-up for WTFs.
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I don't think so.
Djokovic wants to defend points and win bercy if he can.
Novak knows he still has chance in indoors and he can end up YE no.1
 
ilovetennis212

ilovetennis212

Professional
Gonzo_style said:
#1 is already lost, Nadal needs QF at Shanghai to replace Djokovic on #1.
For Djokovic, it would be better to skip Shanghai and Beijing and to focus on Davis Cup and WTFs.
I would suggest him to play a few matches in Paris as a warm-up for WTFs.
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I don't think so.
Djokovic wants to defend points and win bercy if he can.
Novak knows he still has chance in indoors and he can end up YE no.1.
 
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Max G.

Legend
Right now, Djokovic is more than 3000 points behind Nadal in the Race.

Thats' a *huge* deficit. To make it up, he'd have to win both upcoming Masters events AND the WTF, with Nadal not even getting to the finals of them.

It seems fairly unlikely, and basically out of his hands - Nadal doesn't even have to win upcoming events, just make it to quarters and semis and stuff like that, to end as #1 no matter how well Djokovic does.
 
uncooling

uncooling

Semi-Pro
4-1 for Serbia.

It's played on clay after all, and Djokovic will play since he can earn some cheap points from Davis Cup. He already has some points from davis cup and without it, he would've fallen in his ranking a long time ago.
 
Chico

Chico

Banned
Djokovic was staying one more day in NY to attend his charity dinner on Tuesday night. So he will not be in Belgrade before late Wednesday or Thursday.

No way he will be ready and properly rested on Friday.
 
Nostradamus

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Can they just play this in Florida since Novak played the open and too tired to travel ? it is neutral site and should work for both nations.
 
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CDNguy87

Hall of Fame
Chico said:
Djokovic was staying one more day in NY to attend his charity dinner on Tuesday night. So he will not be in Belgrade before late Wednesday or Thursday.

No way he will be ready and properly rested on Friday.
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That's a good point. He'll definitely still be dealing with jet lag on Friday. But I'm still not convinced a mental midget like Popsicle is capable of beating even a badly jetlagged Djokovic, at least not on slow clay.

Serbia should be glad that Friday involves the #1 Singles player of each country against the other's #2. If Djokovic had to play Raonic on Friday, I think that could have been a major upset.
 
Chico

Chico

Banned
CDNguy87 said:
That's a good point. He'll definitely still be dealing with jet lag on Friday. But I'm still not convinced a mental midget like Popsicle is capable of beating even a badly jetlagged Djokovic, at least not on slow clay.

Serbia should be glad that Friday involves the #1 Singles player of each country against the other's #2. If Djokovic had to play Raonic on Friday, I think that could have been a major upset.
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Novak was also practicing on clay on Tuesday in NY (in Serbian):

http://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2013&mm=09&dd=11&nav_id=752299
 
Down_the_line

Down_the_line

Legend
The x-factor in this tie is obviously if Djokovic will play or not. If he does, tired or not, I think he'll be able to win his matches and help Serbia to win. If not, it becomes a very winnable tie for Canada.

Even though I'm cheering for Canada, I want Djokovic to play. Canada didn't have to face Nadal, Ferrer or Almagro, Lopez or Verdasco - Spain's top 5 players - in their win over Spain. I want them to beat a full Serbia team.
 
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tennis_think

New User
Could this year be similar to 2010 for Djokovic? Losing to Nadal in US Open final...possibly winning davis cup? what comes next...?
 
T-Noone

T-Noone

Professional
Chico said:
Djokovic was staying one more day in NY to attend his charity dinner on Tuesday night. So he will not be in Belgrade before late Wednesday or Thursday.

No way he will be ready and properly rested on Friday.
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Nah he'll be fine. He gets more motivated for this than anything.
 
Strategy

Strategy

Semi-Pro
Down_the_line said:
Even though I'm cheering for Canada, I want Djokovic to play.
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lol. Sorry, those do not go together. This is Canada's best chance at going far in who knows how long, every Canadian should be cheering against Novak playing. Even if its more legitimate to win with him in the lineup, its also way more unlikely.
 
Down_the_line

Down_the_line

Legend
For those in Canada, Sportsnet will be broadcasting both singles rubbers from 10am-4pm EST in all regions. Looks like Sportsnet One will also be showing taped footage of the Argentina/Czech Republic tie at 8pm EST.
 
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Marcel Granoller Bar

New User
Down_the_line said:
For those in Canada, Sportsnet will be broadcasting both singles rubbers from 10am-4pm EST in all regions. Looks like Sportsnet One will also be showing taped footage of the Argentina/Czech Republic tie at 8pm EST.
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The interesting thing about this tie is that both Raonic and Nestor-ovic are born in Serbia.
For Nestor, he was born in Belgrade itself, so its like a coming home party:)

As for Vasek, he could easily hop into Prague for the other semi-final for the
Czechs.
 
Chico

Chico

Banned
Marcel Granoller Bar said:
The interesting thing about this tie is that both Raonic and Nestor-ovic are born in Serbia.
For Nestor, he was born in Belgrade itself, so its like a coming home party:)

As for Vasek, he could easily hop into Prague for the other semi-final for the
Czechs.
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Raonic was born in Montenegro, but close enough :)

Also Dancevic's father is from Serbia - little northwest town called Apatin.
 
Down_the_line

Down_the_line

Legend
What's sad is this clay seems faster than the hard courts at the US Open. I realize it's indoors.

Djokovic breaks to go up 3-2.
 
Ironwood

Ironwood

Professional
We can't for a minute hope Vasek can take the opening match from Djokovic, but even if it's over in 3, as long as he can stand in there and push him a little, it may set him up well for what may be a crutial cross-over this weekend
 
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