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any good skiers here? how difficult is it compared to tennis?
Very few people die or get crippled for life playing tennis.
Same with Corbet's.
In my opinion, the snow conditions are usually so bad, it's not worth wasting the lift ride to ski it.
Normal conditions = 5.5+ to actually "ski" it....powder/spring conditions = 4.5.
Dat the one up in Canada? The 100' wide entry into a freefall around 100'?
I've never skied out of California.
Biggest drop would be from top of Chute75 at Squaw on skis.
On snowboard, the rock drop at DonnerSkiRanch, directly below what was then called Chair 3, that goes from the lodge to the top.
i have read a "normal" can ski it with some instructions. how likely is serious injury for a normal skier?
no deaths so far
i have skied front front at stowe. i turn right much better than turning left. do u think i can make it? i m worried about the first left turn.
Chute 75 is arguably the steepest sustained pitch at SquawValley. Not OlyLady, not Headwall, not Westface, not GraniteChief.
The drop in from the top, not the W side, is usually more than 40' air time.
Is Squaw supposed to be steep.
30 degrees? That's like the top of ShirleyLake! Even Exhibition, where they hold all sorts of bump contests, is around 35 degrees sustained, and it's NOTHING near Chute75.
That was why I put ski in quotes. Most people who are relatively competent skiers will be able to get down it and this time of year it isn't a mandatory air (dependent on the season's snowfall). If you aren't airing it, you've got a short steep icy patch to side slip down, followed by a very quick turn (still on ice), followed by a few more icy turns where you are scrubbing speed until it flattens out and gets in the sun. Most people fall in the first 2-3 turns because of the ice and steepness, but it opens up immediately after the first turn and all that happens is you take a long ride down the ice followed by a hike back up to get your skis. There is always a chance if injury, but odds are it will be to your pride from a large group of people seeing it happen and groaning as you slide.
Like I said before, I don't think it's worth skiing it, but it will be a thrill and you can check it off you bucket list. You should still go to the top and look over the edge and stop below it to watch the carnage......always a good time.
Wait for fresh snow. Its not that bad. Slide in, you will hit the bad snow first, then you are in the clear. If you are a weekend warrior/ out of shape skip it.
I hit it on a epic first tram day at jackson. It was like butter. Out west it is similar to main chute at squaw palisades. Although corbets has a much longer, steeper runout.
Chute 75 is arguably the steepest sustained pitch at SquawValley. Not OlyLady, not Headwall, not Westface, not GraniteChief.
The drop in from the top, not the W side, is usually more than 40' air time.
Is Squaw supposed to be steep.
30 degrees? That's like the top of ShirleyLake! Even Exhibition, where they hold all sorts of bump contests, is around 35 degrees sustained, and it's NOTHING near Chute75.
If you can ski east coast ice you can ski corbets. You wont hit the rocks.
Chute 75 is just a basic run at squaw. Its steep at the top. Thats it.
Tennis is harder than skiing. Skiing is 99 percent balls.
Lee, I'm sorry but this is just bad information
you are not really risking anything in tennis. how is it harder?
i feel that unless you can ski something like corbet you cant really call yourself a skier. its not for ego, pride, bucket list etc
Dat the one up in Canada? The 100' wide entry into a freefall around 100'?
I've never skied out of California.
Biggest drop would be from top of Chute75 at Squaw on skis.
On snowboard, the rock drop at DonnerSkiRanch, directly below what was then called Chair 3, that goes from the lodge to the top.
no shame in wimping out on corbets. i wussed out too. literally talked trash all trip up to jackson and no one, i mean no one, from my group actually did it. stood there for a good 20-30min watching yard sales and took the trail down. there's supposed an even steeper chute in jackson which a waiver is needed.
Corbet's Couloir is not in Canada, it is at Jackson Hole. It's not really death-defying, just looks that way from the top. However, anyone can be badly injured if they ski into the rocks at speed. just sayin'... :twisted:
Corbets (and Jackson in general) is awesome. Much better conditions this year than in CA where the epic drought has kept me from getting a decent powder day yet.
I live on KT22, of course, its the mother ship. My favorite run is the nose to fingers.
Fingers are awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MIKhbc_-jmM#t=25
Chute 75 has a nice fall line and you can pop a nice air into it in a few spots but nothing too big. Just down the traverse at dead tree is where a bigger drop in air can be found. But oh man on a pow day 75 is where I go first, such a long sustained fall line pitch. I also like the alternates, more than Chute 75 as seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3xMa6yEraSI#t=77
Corbets would be more comparable to Granite Chief Peak, direct chute. I wimp dropped into here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3xMa6yEraSI#t=32
Palisades / Chimney at Squaw are a little more gnar in my opinion.
http://youtu.be/oxl5uLoH0TA
But anyone getting to experience any of the above is pretty lucky.
But, 40 degrees is not a whole lot scarier than 35 degrees.
But, 1,500 feet is a whole lot more daunting than merely 150'.
Sounds plausable, but it's not.... SpacemanSpiff.
Think of this.... 1 60 drop, sheer with rocks all the way down until the landing.
But the landing is perfect easy deep snow, within 2 blocks of the lodge, perfect gradual flattenning, and directly under a beginner level chair.
This describes the jump at DonnerSkiRanch in California. Is it hard?
I say, a 12' sheer drop out in the backcountry is much harder, where nobody normally ski's or board's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evBZfdT1LgU
is this chimney? that just jumping off a cliff and landing. thats not really skiing. idk
did u ski corbet?
I once had a yard sale at WestFace, after telling my bud it's really easy after the first 3 turns. Second turn, right ski released, ski stoppers, and I slid, bounced, cartwheeled, and pogo sticked almost all the way down to the flatter bottom, MountainRun, about 800' below my lost ski..... Long crawl half way up, to meet my sideslipping, ski saving bud in the middle.
Are you sure you actually ski/snowboard?
Read what your wrote again, or for the first time.
Yes, a big drop right into your lodge, with an easy landing, is much safer and more comfortable than a backcountry 12' drop off a rock where no one else has jumped. In the backcountry, not only are you on your own, but you haven't dropped that jump lately, so you don't know the landing.
Yes, I skied from top of SugarBowl's new 2 chairs down to almost DonnerLake. That requires at least 7 big blind drops. Of course, with 6 other guys who have done it before.
That was WAAAAAYYY heavier than going the 60'er under chair 3 at DonnerSkiRanch, because at Donner, at least 20 guys were making the drop, always a line of 3-5 guys, during a snowboard trade show in '95 and lots of snow that year.
You're assuming that I'm dumb enough to jump off a rock/cliff without knowing what's beneath it.
I ski in the Alps, and anyone who's skied the Alps will know that they can kill you in a hurry, even within the resort boundaries. Because of that, I only drop off rocks/cliffs if I know that the landing is safe, regardless of whether or not I'm within the resort boundaries. So, given that I'll only jump something if I know the landing is safe, the 12' drop is always easier than the 60' drop.
Now, if you're going to blindly jump off stuff without scoping out the landing, then it's probably a good idea to stay close to the resort base. Like I said before, it's a shorter ride in the patroller's sled when you're already close to the bottom.
But if you actually want to talk about skiing/boarding rather than blindly jumping off stuff, then a steep slope is a steep slope regardless of how long it is or where it is. The only thing that really matters is the snow condition. If you really know how to ski/board steeps, then the only reasons that the length of a slope should be a cause for concern are if you think you don't have the stamina or if you're pressed for time (i.e., need to get somewhere in a hurry). Other than that, it shouldn't matter to you if it's 10 turns or 50 turns.
would it make a difference if the steep was really narrow like at corbet?
You're assuming that I'm dumb enough to jump off a rock/cliff without knowing what's beneath it.
I ski in the Alps, and anyone who's skied the Alps will know that they can kill you in a hurry, even within the resort boundaries. Because of that, I only drop off rocks/cliffs if I know that the landing is safe, regardless of whether or not I'm within the resort boundaries. So, given that I'll only jump something if I know the landing is safe, the 12' drop is always easier than the 60' drop.
Now, if you're going to blindly jump off stuff without scoping out the landing, then it's probably a good idea to stay close to the resort base. Like I said before, it's a shorter ride in the patroller's sled when you're already close to the bottom.
But if you actually want to talk about skiing/boarding rather than blindly jumping off stuff, then a steep slope is a steep slope regardless of how long it is or where it is. The only thing that really matters is the snow condition. If you really know how to ski/board steeps, then the only reasons that the length of a slope should be a cause for concern are if you think you don't have the stamina or if you're pressed for time (i.e., need to get somewhere in a hurry). Other than that, it shouldn't matter to you if it's 10 turns or 50 turns.
Not totally unarguable.
The length of a steep slope actually does matter a bit, especially in hard fast snow condition, the kind where if you fall, you start sliding down the hill. The less length you have to slide, the less potential danger there is for tumbling or hitting obstacles. Therefore a steep slope is less dangerous the shorter it is, due to reduced potential energy.
PS, starting to get excited about a potential snowfall event in the sierra 1 week out! Bring it, I still have to get 10 days this winter to cover my season pass!
Most of the drops are around 40'. One guy took off higher.
But, 40 degrees is not a whole lot scarier than 35 degrees.
But, 1,500 feet is a whole lot more daunting than merely 150'.
Anyone here ski Squaw? You can attest to what I say.
Jumping off the bridge between Headwall and Cornice, taking the E side, is an easy 20' drop into MOGUL's.
The drop into Siberia from the top of Headwall chair, bit of a hike W, can be anything from 10' to well over 50'.
Sorry, I haven't skied since '84 or so, before those new steeper runs at Squaw were opened.
So, is using a 160 cm ski, at 5'11" and 148 lbs. ,old school thinking?
Hows about, in 1973, my backup powder skis were Head 170's, as wide as today's shovels, and wider in the waist than anything made for hardpack today.
Main pow ski was HauteRoutes, of course, 187's, that also worked great for mogul skiing, if it wasn't icy.
My SolomonScreams ARE about 5 years old, new enough for me.
My SolomonScreams ARE about 5 years old, new enough for me.
Geez, for the 3rd time, my 2007 SolomonScreams are 170 cm...
Do you even know what year it is?