Not only is choosing this particular range very convenient, but it's also disingenuous to ignore how far each player went:
Federer / Djokovic
2012 FO: SF vs Djokovic / F vs Nadal (Champion)
2012 W: W / SF vs Fed (Champion)
2012 USO: QF vs Berdych / F vs Murray (Champion)
2013 AO: SF vs Murray / W
2013 FO: QF vs Tsonga / SF vs Nadal (Champion)
2013 W: 2R vs Stakhovsky / F vs Murray (Champion)
2013 USO: 4R vs Robredo / F vs Nadal (Champion)
2014 AO: SF vs Nadal / QF vs Wawrinka (Champion)
In each of the last 8 slams, Djokovic either won or lost to the eventual champion. Make of that what you will.
Not only is choosing this particular range very convenient, but it's also disingenuous to ignore how far each player went:
Federer / Djokovic
2012 FO: SF vs Djokovic / F vs Nadal (Champion)
2012 W: W / SF vs Fed (Champion)
2012 USO: QF vs Berdych / F vs Murray (Champion)
2013 AO: SF vs Murray / W
2013 FO: QF vs Tsonga / SF vs Nadal (Champion)
2013 W: 2R vs Stakhovsky / F vs Murray (Champion)
2013 USO: 4R vs Robredo / F vs Nadal (Champion)
2014 AO: SF vs Nadal / QF vs Wawrinka (Champion)
In each of the last 8 slams, Djokovic either won or lost to the eventual champion. Make of that what you will.
But it's all about titles, no?
It's like how Federer's 11 consecutive AO semi-finals (this will be unmatched forever) or other crazy slam consistency streaks are simply ignored (especially by Fed-haters)...
No one cares about runner-ups, no?
They'd rather have 1 slam and the rest 1st round defeats than 0 slams and 50 runner-ups, no?
But it's all about titles, no?
It's like how Federer's 11 consecutive AO semi-finals (this will be unmatched forever) or other crazy slam consistency streaks are simply ignored (especially by Fed-haters)...
No one cares about runner-ups, no?
They'd rather have 1 slam and the rest 1st round defeats than 0 slams and 50 runner-ups, no?
In the last 8 slams, Nadal has played in 6, and won 3.
this argument will never count so don't even start.
this argument will never count so don't even start.
^^^ But Nadal won 3 slams in 2010 on clay, grass, hardcourt. The most difficult calendar year feat since Laver.
And GOAT doesn't even exist, anyway.
AO and USO are basically a different surface. They don't play the same.
You can't talk GOAT about players that haven't ended their careers .
Nobody is talking about goat here. You are the only one who mentioned goat here.
^ Sort of :lol:
Nobody has done it EVER in the history of mankind, except for one guy - Nadal.
^^^ But Nadal won 3 slams in 2010 on slow clay, medium clay, fast clay. The most difficult calendar year feat since Laver.
I fixed it for you.
OK. Yeah, Nole is praised as a tough competition for today. But besides great 2011, he wasn't so tough. Rafa/Murray/Fed all beat him.
Ironically in his best level in 2011, old Fed was giving him the most trouble.
Also, Djokovic's "2011 level" was partially dependent on others. Nadal was better in 2010, 2012 and 2013. Nadal's 2011 Roland Garros was so bad he was taken to 5 sets by Isner.