The Green Mile
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It is true. I have seen him light one up after a match, still on court. There was a match with Murray where he did this. A couple other times, but the memory is quite vague right now. Don't know if he still smokes.
David Ferrer is FINNISH. He is 138th in the race.
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mike danny
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A very good player. He will be missed.
But it was frustrating to see him lose and choke to the Big 4 like clockwork.
See Paris 2013 vs Djokovic and Valencia 2014 vs Murray.
But it was frustrating to see him lose and choke to the Big 4 like clockwork.
See Paris 2013 vs Djokovic and Valencia 2014 vs Murray.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Actually WTF 2011. But Nole lost to Tipsarevic in that tournament too LOL.
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
Ferrer is the archetypical workhorse, "make the best out of your - relatively speaking - limited talent"-type of player and should get all kudos for that.
Yep, obviously in decline (and has been so for at least a year already), but do people seriously believe that a top athlete is capable of going on well after their thirties, especially with a grinding style of play? For those who still don't get it: having a career like Fed's, or even Nadal's, is the exception, not the rule...
So yep, he's on his way out, with some 25+ titles and a bucketload of cash under his belt.
I'm pretty sure he'll enjoy a fantastic retirement. Not something I am able to call 'sad' in any way or form.
Yep, obviously in decline (and has been so for at least a year already), but do people seriously believe that a top athlete is capable of going on well after their thirties, especially with a grinding style of play? For those who still don't get it: having a career like Fed's, or even Nadal's, is the exception, not the rule...
So yep, he's on his way out, with some 25+ titles and a bucketload of cash under his belt.
I'm pretty sure he'll enjoy a fantastic retirement. Not something I am able to call 'sad' in any way or form.
From what I've understood, David was (is?) a very 'incidental' smoker. And in contrary to current snowflake-millenial belief, one or two a day won't immediately kill one off...
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Ferrer is the archetypical workhorse, "make the best out of your - relatively speaking - limited talent"-type of player and should get all kudos for that.
Yep, obviously in decline (and has been so for at least a year already), but do people seriously believe that a top athlete is capable of going on well after their thirties, especially with a grinding style of play? For those who still don't get it: having a career like Fed's, or even Nadal's, is the exception, not the rule...
So yep, he's on his way out, with some 25+ titles and a bucketload of cash under his belt.
I'm pretty sure he'll enjoy a fantastic retirement. Not something I am able to call 'sad' in any way or form.
From what I've understood, David was (is?) a very 'incidental' smoker. And in contrary to current snowflake-millenial belief, one or two a day won't immediately kill one off...
I believe it would be fairer if you changed the word 'talent' with 'height' in your opening comment. Don't you think, certeris paribus, that he would have done even better if he was 6'1 or 6'2?
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What? Truth hurt or something?Oh dear.
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
He probably doesn't, but who knows, maybe after his more recent results, he's back on the wagon!
The winner of the French Open will be: David Ferrer!
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Ferrer was always the cool kid in the back of the class.
But like a 19-year old still hanging around school, I think that it's time to move on.
Federer and Del Potro
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Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
It does but sadly there was none to be found in your post. Not like it's the first time that's ever happened mind you.
jonestim
Hall of Fame
I am curious how much of his decline is due to age, and how much to the switch to Babolat. He dropped out of the top 10 almost immediately after the switch and has been seen nowhere near it since.
I'm not saying that his Pure Drive is a bad racquet, but maybe not a good match for him.
I'm not saying that his Pure Drive is a bad racquet, but maybe not a good match for him.
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So what, you think Ferrer is a great player?
Cedric Pioline must be vying for a place in your ATG list if that's the case.
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Still about as bad when it comes to actually playing tennis though.
Well at least Ferrer could make it past the 3rd round but still he didn't do well against any real top players.
Djokovic2011
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Yep, at his best I think he was. Show some respect.So what, you think Ferrer is a great player?
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At his best he was bending over for guys like your boy, how does that make him a great player?
mike danny
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Watch his matches against Djokovic in Paris 2013 and Murray in Valencia 2014. Both cringeworthy.
The guy choked like a mad man.
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http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/fedex-head-2-head/roger-federer-vs-david-ferrer/F324/F401
Guy had a chance at beating Federer once or twice too, but he ended up getting destroyed in the deciding sets.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Yeah he wasn't always the mentally strongest player against the Big 4 but I still think his game was underrated by many during his prime years.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
His peers called him the most underrated player a few years back...
Djokovic2011
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Tbh I've always found it strange that you dislike the guy so much. I would've thought he'd be one of your favourite players considering you're such a huge fan of Hewitt.
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He's like a worse version of Chang with less mental strength. It's an insult to even compare him to a guy like Hewitt who actually was mentally strong against the best players, taking out Federer multiple times, Nadal multiple times, and taking out Sampras in a Grand Slam final at the age of 20.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Hey, you have Dimitrov and Sampras fans who hate Roger, despite the resemblance in their games.
I'm sure there will be a player who will resemble Djokovic, but you won't be a big fan of him.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
And plus, Hewitt and Ferrer are fairly different players. Ferrer would have never had Hewitt's career in any era.
Djokovic2011
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I meant in terms of how scrappy they both are. I'm sure even Lleyton sees some of himself in David.
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Ferrer didn't have the variety Hewitt had during his best years. Hewitt was actually an accomplished volleyer and his lob was and still is arguably the best ever. Nothing in Ferrer's game is up for discussion in "best ever" arguments. He was just mediocre, sure he was a great fighter against lesser opposition but unlike Hewitt he couldn't bring it against the absolute best. So was Ferrer really THAT mentally strong? He had belief he could beat players worse than him but did he have belief he could beat the greatest of all time in guys like Djokovic and Federer? No way.
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
Funny that the toughest Ferrer played Federer were their two Cincinnati matches (2009 and 2014), even though you wouldn't have predicted that by their match-up.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Madrid 2010 was pretty tight too.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Lleyton himself has a lot of respect for David and what he was able to bring to the court. I could see it in his eyes after their AO encounter last year.
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And?
He's still Michael Chang if he gained about 10 to 20 pounds and was slightly slower.
Djokovic2011
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OK Saby.
KineticChain
Hall of Fame
poor daveed type writer broked. he cant afford modern goods anymores now that he out of top 20. he uses the globe to plan challengers tourny travel
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
28 inch SchlongBolat VS the Prince's 28 inch Warrior "Excalibur" is the reason.
The guy has not reached the 29 years old pitfall at 35 years most top players suffer
Im waiting for that new girl on Youtube to do a Ferrer statistics using the SCHLONGBOLAT
His footspeed looks the same but errors from his game and tempo looks like when Tsonga
changed from Head to Babolat and took him years to get anywhere close to that AO final and yet still in limbo
APD players that dont use excessive loop, dont have the heart of a lion and without the genius tennis brain of Nadal
just YOYO for every in Limbo hoping for that big Sweetspot and their game to come together once in a blue moon
Theres a reason Bryan brothers and Ferrer did so well with their control and reliable
Prince swords vs a lengthened racquet that is yet to overtake the top 10 vs the mainstay
of traditional box beamed frames for sheer number of users.
Michael Chang was unfortunate not winning another Slam after searching for more power
but he was a very gifted athlete with talent in spades unlike a Ferrer. However the hard
work both put in gave them their success as frustrating gatekeepers to the elite.
http://www.**************.org/imgb/32930/david-ferrer-goodbye-prince-he-is-practicing-with-a-babolat-racket.jpg
The guy has not reached the 29 years old pitfall at 35 years most top players suffer
Im waiting for that new girl on Youtube to do a Ferrer statistics using the SCHLONGBOLAT
His footspeed looks the same but errors from his game and tempo looks like when Tsonga
changed from Head to Babolat and took him years to get anywhere close to that AO final and yet still in limbo
APD players that dont use excessive loop, dont have the heart of a lion and without the genius tennis brain of Nadal
just YOYO for every in Limbo hoping for that big Sweetspot and their game to come together once in a blue moon
Theres a reason Bryan brothers and Ferrer did so well with their control and reliable
Prince swords vs a lengthened racquet that is yet to overtake the top 10 vs the mainstay
of traditional box beamed frames for sheer number of users.
Michael Chang was unfortunate not winning another Slam after searching for more power
but he was a very gifted athlete with talent in spades unlike a Ferrer. However the hard
work both put in gave them their success as frustrating gatekeepers to the elite.
http://www.**************.org/imgb/32930/david-ferrer-goodbye-prince-he-is-practicing-with-a-babolat-racket.jpg
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StrongerThanAll
Professional
not much worse than Novak or Andy in the race though....
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
new Ferrers come in pairs with D Goffin and D Schwartzman
they have close battles vs each other yet able to clean up the field of pretenders
both have been doing very well with Goffin pushing in form Nole in the past
they have close battles vs each other yet able to clean up the field of pretenders
both have been doing very well with Goffin pushing in form Nole in the past
Mainad
Bionic Poster
In Djokovic's case at least, he had the belief on 5 different occasions.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
You don't think #138 is much worse than #18 and #10? Ummm...okkaayyy.
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Not in Grand Slam matches.
StrongerThanAll
Professional
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
He got to number 3 in 2012, not exactly what you'd call a year of weak competition..
StrongerThanAll
Professional
I'm sure Daveeeeed with his millions of dollars enjoying a sweet retirement is going to worry about what Internet people Say about him.
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Vanilla Slice
Professional
David Ferrer is actually SPANISH
Druss
Hall of Fame
You are correct! 2012 was a very good year and I thoroughly enjoyed the tennis then. There was a gap however between the Big 3, Murray then everybody else (incl Ferrer). Back in 2004-09 there was more depth within the top 10. Just imagine having a bunch of 'Murrays' (pre-06 Hewitt, Roddick, Nalby, Davydenko), Agassi and peak Safin all playing in 2012... I'm pretty sure Daveed would not have got to No3.
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kimguroo
Legend
Another prince port player switched racket and playing horrible then retiring?
Just too bad to see Ferrer plays so badly and hard to believe he will be gone like this.
Since he is a professional player, he can't play for free using blacked out prince port racket. Sad to see prince just can't sign anyone nowadays.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Admittedly, Ferrer has had a decent career.
1 slam final, 4 slam semis, plenty of QF's.
1 masters title and 5 additional masters finals
1 WTF final
Career best seasons in 2012 and 2013 aged 30 and 31.
Qualified for the WTF 6 times.
My only wonder is what was Ferrer doing for most of his 20's? During 2003-2006 he was irrelevant. In 2007 he had a breakthrough season, but in 2008 and 2009 he regressed again.
Also him and Fed have never played slam matches, but it was mostly Ferrer's fault for that. They could have met at the 2007 USO, 2008 FO, 2011 FO and 2013 FO. Federer was responsible for 2013 FO, but the others were all on Ferrer.
1 slam final, 4 slam semis, plenty of QF's.
1 masters title and 5 additional masters finals
1 WTF final
Career best seasons in 2012 and 2013 aged 30 and 31.
Qualified for the WTF 6 times.
My only wonder is what was Ferrer doing for most of his 20's? During 2003-2006 he was irrelevant. In 2007 he had a breakthrough season, but in 2008 and 2009 he regressed again.
Also him and Fed have never played slam matches, but it was mostly Ferrer's fault for that. They could have met at the 2007 USO, 2008 FO, 2011 FO and 2013 FO. Federer was responsible for 2013 FO, but the others were all on Ferrer.
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