Pancho Segura (1921-2017)

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
https://twitter.com/JimmyConnors/status/932290195394666496

One of the great underrated players in the games long history, notable for everything from his diminutive stature to the two handed forehand, to having won the US Pro on 3 different surfaces (something his great protege did at the USO!) and a man without whom we may never have gotten the gift of Connors. What a good long life he lived Farewell.
 
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KG1965

Legend
Now. finally the media reconstruct his great story, his great titles, his great matches against Kramer, Rosewall, Hoad and others.
Where were the great experts?
It's the fault of the great experts if a few fans knows Pancho Segura. The great Pancho Segura.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 

thrust

Legend
Now. finally the media reconstruct his great story, his great titles, his great matches against Kramer, Rosewall, Hoad and others.
Where were the great experts?
It's the fault of the great experts if a few fans knows Pancho Segura. The great Pancho Segura.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
In reality, as great as Segura was, had his greatest success at a time when practically no one paid attention to the pro tour. Unfortunately, he never won a regular slam, which did not help is reputation. No doubt he was one of the great characters and court tacticians of the game.
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
NYT obit: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/...-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well

Pancho Segura, who surmounted a sickly and impoverished childhood in Ecuador to become one of the world’s leading tennis players in the mid-20th century, died on Saturday at his home in Carlsbad, Calif. He was 96.

The cause was complications of Parkinson’s disease, said his son, Spencer.

Displaying a blistering two-handed forehand, a keen sense of court strategy and a crowd-pleasing flair, Segura flourished in the two decades preceding the open era, first as an amateur and then as a member of Jack Kramer’s pro tour. He was later the mentor to a teenage Jimmy Connors and coached him when he competed in Grand Slam events of the 1970s.

Arriving in the United States in 1940 with little knowledge of English — his legs bowed by a childhood case of rickets — Segura was recruited by the University of Miami’s tennis coach, the prominent amateur player Gardnar Mulloy. He won the N.C.A.A. singles tennis championship each year from 1943 to 1945. He reached the singles semifinals of the United States Nationals in Forest Hills, Queens, every year from 1942 to 1945.

Segura turned pro in 1947 and barnstormed around the world with Kramer and figures like Pancho Gonzalez, Bobby Riggs, Tony Trabert and the Australians Lew Hoad, Ken Rosewall and Frank Sedgman. He won the prestigious U.S. Pro Tennis Championships singles title each year from 1950 to 1952.

He was inducted into the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport, R.I., in 1984.

Writing in Tennis magazine in 1973, Kramer called Segura’s forehand and Don Budge’s backhand “the two strokes I regard as the greatest in the history of tennis.”

“I played with the speed of a bullet,” Segura told The San Diego Union-Tribune in 1987. “Great eyes, great hands, great under pressure. I was a fighter, a killer. I hated to lose to anyone. My concentration was so intense. I could do anything with the ball.”

Francisco Olegario Segura was born on June 20, 1921, the eldest of 10 children of Domingo Segura and his wife, the former Francisca Cano. She gave birth to him aboard a barge on a river while trying to reach a hospital in Guayaquil, Ecuador, from the family home in Quevedo.

In addition to rickets, he also had malaria as a child, but doctors said that tennis would strengthen him.

He began playing while a ball boy at an exclusive club in Guayaquil, getting the job through a wealthy businessman who employed his father as a caretaker.

As a youngster, Segura was too small (he grew to 5-foot-6 and 150 pounds or so as a pro) and too weak to use the orthodox one-handed forehand so he developed his two-fisted shot.

He was a prominent player in South America before winning national collegiate titles at Miami. In addition to his strong showings at Forest Hills in the forerunner of the United States Open, Segura won the United States clay-court championship and the national indoor championship in the mid-1940s.

Playing on Kramer’s tour before the arrival of open tennis in 1968 brought huge paydays for pros, Segura’s largest prize money for a single event was $5,000, as he recalled it. He won that when he bested Gonzalez in Australia.

“I beat Gonzalez, 13-11, in the fifth in Sydney, but on the tour I made $300 a week and had to drive 500 miles every night,” he said.

But he played with royalty and with celebrities in settings he could hardly have imagined while growing up in Ecuador.

“I played on islands that were specks in the Indian Ocean,” he told The Los Angeles Times in 1991. “I played for the sheikh of Kuwait and I played at midnight in Madrid for $1,000. Errol Flynn used to send a car to pick me up.”

After leaving the pro tour in 1962, Segura became a teaching pro at the Beverly Hills Tennis Club and what is now the Omni La Costa Resort & Spa, in Carlsbad, near San Diego. He lived at the resort.

In the late 1960s, Segura honed Connors’s game at the request of his mother, Gloria, who had played in the United States Nationals in the mid-1940s and was coaching her son, but took him to the Los Angeles area so he could work with Segura.

“He would draw plays on napkins,” Connors once remembered. “Like he’d say, ‘When you hit a good return, move here,’ and he’d draw an arrow.”

“He is the player I always wanted to be,” Segura told The New York Times in 1977.

In his 2009 memoir, “As It Was,” Mulloy wrote, “In my humble opinion, Segura is the most astute authority on tennis other than myself!”

In addition to his son, from his marriage to his first wife, the former Virginia Smith, which ended in divorce, Segura is survived by his second wife, the former Beverley Moylan; his daughter, Maria Segura, from that marriage; his sisters Catalina, Olivera and Eleanor Segura; a brother, Andres, and four grandchildren.

Segura became an American citizen in 1991. In his late 80s, reflecting on his life, he reveled in the possibilities that tennis held even for a poor youngster like himself.

“It’s a great test of democracy in action,” he told ESPN. “Just you and me, baby. Doesn’t matter how much you have, or who your dad is, or if you went to Harvard or Yale or whatever. Just you and me.”
 

KG1965

Legend
In reality, as great as Segura was, had his greatest success at a time when practically no one paid attention to the pro tour. Unfortunately, he never won a regular slam, which did not help is reputation. No doubt he was one of the great characters and court tacticians of the game.
I think you hit the target.
The Pro Tours did not interest the media despite big names.
Media seemed to be interested in slam amateurs despite empty seedings.
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
NYT obit: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/...-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well

Pancho Segura, who surmounted a sickly and impoverished childhood in Ecuador to become one of the world’s leading tennis players in the mid-20th century, died on Saturday at his home in Carlsbad, Calif. He was 96.

The cause was complications of Parkinson’s disease, said his son, Spencer.

Displaying a blistering two-handed forehand, a keen sense of court strategy and a crowd-pleasing flair, Segura flourished in the two decades preceding the open era, first as an amateur and then as a member of Jack Kramer’s pro tour. He was later the mentor to a teenage Jimmy Connors and coached him when he competed in Grand Slam events of the 1970s.

Arriving in the United States in 1940 with little knowledge of English — his legs bowed by a childhood case of rickets — Segura was recruited by the University of Miami’s tennis coach, the prominent amateur player Gardnar Mulloy. He won the N.C.A.A. singles tennis championship each year from 1943 to 1945. He reached the singles semifinals of the United States Nationals in Forest Hills, Queens, every year from 1942 to 1945.

Segura turned pro in 1947 and barnstormed around the world with Kramer and figures like Pancho Gonzalez, Bobby Riggs, Tony Trabert and the Australians Lew Hoad, Ken Rosewall and Frank Sedgman. He won the prestigious U.S. Pro Tennis Championships singles title each year from 1950 to 1952.

He was inducted into the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport, R.I., in 1984.

Writing in Tennis magazine in 1973, Kramer called Segura’s forehand and Don Budge’s backhand “the two strokes I regard as the greatest in the history of tennis.”

“I played with the speed of a bullet,” Segura told The San Diego Union-Tribune in 1987. “Great eyes, great hands, great under pressure. I was a fighter, a killer. I hated to lose to anyone. My concentration was so intense. I could do anything with the ball.”

Francisco Olegario Segura was born on June 20, 1921, the eldest of 10 children of Domingo Segura and his wife, the former Francisca Cano. She gave birth to him aboard a barge on a river while trying to reach a hospital in Guayaquil, Ecuador, from the family home in Quevedo.

In addition to rickets, he also had malaria as a child, but doctors said that tennis would strengthen him.

He began playing while a ball boy at an exclusive club in Guayaquil, getting the job through a wealthy businessman who employed his father as a caretaker.

As a youngster, Segura was too small (he grew to 5-foot-6 and 150 pounds or so as a pro) and too weak to use the orthodox one-handed forehand so he developed his two-fisted shot.

He was a prominent player in South America before winning national collegiate titles at Miami. In addition to his strong showings at Forest Hills in the forerunner of the United States Open, Segura won the United States clay-court championship and the national indoor championship in the mid-1940s.

Playing on Kramer’s tour before the arrival of open tennis in 1968 brought huge paydays for pros, Segura’s largest prize money for a single event was $5,000, as he recalled it. He won that when he bested Gonzalez in Australia.

“I beat Gonzalez, 13-11, in the fifth in Sydney, but on the tour I made $300 a week and had to drive 500 miles every night,” he said.

But he played with royalty and with celebrities in settings he could hardly have imagined while growing up in Ecuador.

“I played on islands that were specks in the Indian Ocean,” he told The Los Angeles Times in 1991. “I played for the sheikh of Kuwait and I played at midnight in Madrid for $1,000. Errol Flynn used to send a car to pick me up.”

After leaving the pro tour in 1962, Segura became a teaching pro at the Beverly Hills Tennis Club and what is now the Omni La Costa Resort & Spa, in Carlsbad, near San Diego. He lived at the resort.

In the late 1960s, Segura honed Connors’s game at the request of his mother, Gloria, who had played in the United States Nationals in the mid-1940s and was coaching her son, but took him to the Los Angeles area so he could work with Segura.

“He would draw plays on napkins,” Connors once remembered. “Like he’d say, ‘When you hit a good return, move here,’ and he’d draw an arrow.”

“He is the player I always wanted to be,” Segura told The New York Times in 1977.

In his 2009 memoir, “As It Was,” Mulloy wrote, “In my humble opinion, Segura is the most astute authority on tennis other than myself!”

In addition to his son, from his marriage to his first wife, the former Virginia Smith, which ended in divorce, Segura is survived by his second wife, the former Beverley Moylan; his daughter, Maria Segura, from that marriage; his sisters Catalina, Olivera and Eleanor Segura; a brother, Andres, and four grandchildren.

Segura became an American citizen in 1991. In his late 80s, reflecting on his life, he reveled in the possibilities that tennis held even for a poor youngster like himself.

“It’s a great test of democracy in action,” he told ESPN. “Just you and me, baby. Doesn’t matter how much you have, or who your dad is, or if you went to Harvard or Yale or whatever. Just you and me.”

ibbi, Thanks for this article.

Pancho once gave me an autograph. He was the only player to write down also the year when he did (1979 at Wimbledon).

Since a longer time I considered Segura as one of the most underrated players, together with Karel Kozeluh, Nüsslein, Kovacs, Riggs, Rosewall and Roche.
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
NYT obit: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/...-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well

Pancho Segura, who surmounted a sickly and impoverished childhood in Ecuador to become one of the world’s leading tennis players in the mid-20th century, died on Saturday at his home in Carlsbad, Calif. He was 96.

The cause was complications of Parkinson’s disease, said his son, Spencer.

Displaying a blistering two-handed forehand, a keen sense of court strategy and a crowd-pleasing flair, Segura flourished in the two decades preceding the open era, first as an amateur and then as a member of Jack Kramer’s pro tour. He was later the mentor to a teenage Jimmy Connors and coached him when he competed in Grand Slam events of the 1970s.

Arriving in the United States in 1940 with little knowledge of English — his legs bowed by a childhood case of rickets — Segura was recruited by the University of Miami’s tennis coach, the prominent amateur player Gardnar Mulloy. He won the N.C.A.A. singles tennis championship each year from 1943 to 1945. He reached the singles semifinals of the United States Nationals in Forest Hills, Queens, every year from 1942 to 1945.

Segura turned pro in 1947 and barnstormed around the world with Kramer and figures like Pancho Gonzalez, Bobby Riggs, Tony Trabert and the Australians Lew Hoad, Ken Rosewall and Frank Sedgman. He won the prestigious U.S. Pro Tennis Championships singles title each year from 1950 to 1952.

He was inducted into the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport, R.I., in 1984.

Writing in Tennis magazine in 1973, Kramer called Segura’s forehand and Don Budge’s backhand “the two strokes I regard as the greatest in the history of tennis.”

“I played with the speed of a bullet,” Segura told The San Diego Union-Tribune in 1987. “Great eyes, great hands, great under pressure. I was a fighter, a killer. I hated to lose to anyone. My concentration was so intense. I could do anything with the ball.”

Francisco Olegario Segura was born on June 20, 1921, the eldest of 10 children of Domingo Segura and his wife, the former Francisca Cano. She gave birth to him aboard a barge on a river while trying to reach a hospital in Guayaquil, Ecuador, from the family home in Quevedo.

In addition to rickets, he also had malaria as a child, but doctors said that tennis would strengthen him.

He began playing while a ball boy at an exclusive club in Guayaquil, getting the job through a wealthy businessman who employed his father as a caretaker.

As a youngster, Segura was too small (he grew to 5-foot-6 and 150 pounds or so as a pro) and too weak to use the orthodox one-handed forehand so he developed his two-fisted shot.

He was a prominent player in South America before winning national collegiate titles at Miami. In addition to his strong showings at Forest Hills in the forerunner of the United States Open, Segura won the United States clay-court championship and the national indoor championship in the mid-1940s.

Playing on Kramer’s tour before the arrival of open tennis in 1968 brought huge paydays for pros, Segura’s largest prize money for a single event was $5,000, as he recalled it. He won that when he bested Gonzalez in Australia.

“I beat Gonzalez, 13-11, in the fifth in Sydney, but on the tour I made $300 a week and had to drive 500 miles every night,” he said.

But he played with royalty and with celebrities in settings he could hardly have imagined while growing up in Ecuador.

“I played on islands that were specks in the Indian Ocean,” he told The Los Angeles Times in 1991. “I played for the sheikh of Kuwait and I played at midnight in Madrid for $1,000. Errol Flynn used to send a car to pick me up.”

After leaving the pro tour in 1962, Segura became a teaching pro at the Beverly Hills Tennis Club and what is now the Omni La Costa Resort & Spa, in Carlsbad, near San Diego. He lived at the resort.

In the late 1960s, Segura honed Connors’s game at the request of his mother, Gloria, who had played in the United States Nationals in the mid-1940s and was coaching her son, but took him to the Los Angeles area so he could work with Segura.

“He would draw plays on napkins,” Connors once remembered. “Like he’d say, ‘When you hit a good return, move here,’ and he’d draw an arrow.”

“He is the player I always wanted to be,” Segura told The New York Times in 1977.

In his 2009 memoir, “As It Was,” Mulloy wrote, “In my humble opinion, Segura is the most astute authority on tennis other than myself!”

In addition to his son, from his marriage to his first wife, the former Virginia Smith, which ended in divorce, Segura is survived by his second wife, the former Beverley Moylan; his daughter, Maria Segura, from that marriage; his sisters Catalina, Olivera and Eleanor Segura; a brother, Andres, and four grandchildren.

Segura became an American citizen in 1991. In his late 80s, reflecting on his life, he reveled in the possibilities that tennis held even for a poor youngster like himself.

“It’s a great test of democracy in action,” he told ESPN. “Just you and me, baby. Doesn’t matter how much you have, or who your dad is, or if you went to Harvard or Yale or whatever. Just you and me.”

ibbi, Thanks for this article.

Pancho once gave me an autograph. He was the only player to write down also the year when he did (1979 at Wimbledon).

Since a longer time I considered Segura as one of the most underrated players, together with Karel Kozeluh, Nüsslein, Kovacs, Riggs, Rosewall and Roche.
 

Ivan69

Hall of Fame
Now. finally the media reconstruct his great story, his great titles, his great matches against Kramer, Rosewall, Hoad and others.
Where were the great experts?
It's the fault of the great experts if a few fans knows Pancho Segura. The great Pancho Segura.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
I need to mention his 35 years career. He stopped playing at 53. Amazing!
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
One of the all-time greats is Pancho Segura. My fondest memory of him is from when I watch the 1976 US Open final, him cheering on Jimmy Connors against Bjorn Borg.
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
One of the all-time greats is Pancho Segura. My fondest memory of him is from when I watch the 1976 US Open final, him cheering on Jimmy Connors against Bjorn Borg.

Did you mean to write this in the style of Yoda?

Edit: actually, Yoda would have said "one of the all-time greats, Pancho Segura is..."
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Fascinating...of course, some of the references are questionable, like losing to Kramer at Wimbledon in 1950...not sure what that match is supposed to be.
Segura must have been thinking about the semi-finals he lost to Kramer in 1949 at both Wembley and the Slazenger at Scarborough, probably at Wembley where Kramer just edged Segura in a close five setter.

That slip shows that some pros regarded Wembley as the pro Wimbledon, a point which I have made on other threads.
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
Segura must have been thinking about the semi-finals he lost to Kramer in 1949 at both Wembley and the Slazenger at Scarborough, probably at Wembley where Kramer just edged Segura in a close five setter.

That slip shows that some pros regarded Wembley as the pro Wimbledon, a point which I have made on other threads.

Dan, In contrary: You use to downgrade Wembley as non-major...
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
Segura must have been thinking about the semi-finals he lost to Kramer in 1949 at both Wembley and the Slazenger at Scarborough, probably at Wembley where Kramer just edged Segura in a close five setter.

That slip shows that some pros regarded Wembley as the pro Wimbledon, a point which I have made on other threads.
I am not saying that I agree with that, I disagree with many things that the old pros would casually state, especially when Gonzales and Segura claimed that Cleveland was the U.S. Pro in 1951, which was very odd.

But if we insist, against all evidence, that Cleveland was the REAL U.S. Pro in the fifties, (yes! there are some people who actually still believe that), then the same case should be made for Wembley as the Wimbledon Pro, and Rosewall should be awarded six Wimbledon Pro titles, to go along with Gonzales' 8 U.S. Pro titles....fair is fair.
 

thrust

Legend
I am not saying that I agree with that, I disagree with many things that the old pros would casually state, especially when Gonzales and Segura claimed that Cleveland was the U.S. Pro in 1951, which was very odd.

But if we insist, against all evidence, that Cleveland was the REAL U.S. Pro in the fifties, (yes! there are some people who actually still believe that), then the same case should be made for Wembley as the Wimbledon Pro, and Rosewall should be awarded six Wimbledon Pro titles, to go along with Gonzales' 8 U.S. Pro titles....fair is fair.
I'll go with that-LOL!
 
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