This is the second golden age of tennis

King of Aces · May 18, 2009

tennis has the highest anmount of fans in 15 years!

we have the greatest grass courter vs the greatest claycourter battling it out on every surface.

We have witness the greatest match of all time and the second greatst match of all time (2008 & 2007 wimbledons).

we also have a tough #3 and #4 seed.

This golden age is even more exciting than the Borg Mcenroe connors golden age.

vtmike · May 18, 2009

King of Aces said:
tennis has the highest anmount of fans in 15 years!

we have the greatest grass courter vs the greatest claycourter battling it out on every surface.

We have witness the greatest match of all time and the second greatst match of all time (2008 & 2007 wimbledons).

we also have a tough #3 and #4 seed.

This golden age is even more exciting than the Borg Mcenroe connors golden age.

I thought you said you were 17 years old...

Blade0324 · May 18, 2009

I'd say this is the first golden age. Yes there was some popularity in the past but the quality of tennis was no where near as good as today. It really started with Agassi and Samprass and has increased since then.

King of Aces · May 18, 2009

vtmike said:
I thought you said you were 17 years old...

No....78 years old....you guys said I was 17, I never did.

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bizarre_opinion · May 18, 2009

vtmike said:
I thought you said you were 17 years old...

i would question that too. He's got the sense of an 8 year old.

gj011 · May 18, 2009

You can see, what happens all the time here.

The OP posted a nice thread for a change, complementing all players.
Still, vtmike and similar trolls jumped immediately with personal attacks to ruin it.

betovanbuuren · May 18, 2009

yes it is.

veroniquem · May 18, 2009

I agree. Very exciting times for tennis now.

All-rounder · May 18, 2009

gj011 said:
You can see, what happens all the time here.

The OP posted a nice thread for a change, complementing all players.
Still, vtmike and similar trolls jumped immediately with personal attacks to ruin it.

Coming from the guy who does the same in federer threads

ronalditop · May 18, 2009

gj011 said:
You can see, what happens all the time here.

The OP posted a nice thread for a change, complementing all players.
Still, vtmike and similar trolls jumped immediately with personal attacks to ruin it.

what an hypocrite.

Blinkism · May 18, 2009

So this is a Nadal thread all of a sudden because the OP gives credit to how interesting and high-quality tennis is these days?

gj011 · May 18, 2009

All-rounder said:
Coming from the guy who does the same in federer threads

No I don't do the same. I express my opinion on Federer threads not insult and personally attack other posters. It is not my problem that you don't like my opinion.

If you are not biased you could at least admit that what vtmike did on this thread is not nice.

All-rounder · May 18, 2009

gj011 said:
No I don't do the same. I express my opinion on Federer threads not insult and personally attack other posters. It is not my problem that you don't like my opinion.

If you are not biased you could at least admit that what vtmike did on this thread is not nice.

what asking the OP if he was 17 years old?? its jus a simple question it could just be sarcasm you don't know, I think your looking to deep into this

vtmike · May 18, 2009

vtmike said:
I thought you said you were 17 years old...

gj011 said:
You can see, what happens all the time here.

The OP posted a nice thread for a change, complementing all players.
Still, vtmike and similar trolls jumped immediately with personal attacks to ruin it.

Getting very desperate are we? All I did is ask him how old he was since he claimed that the following is highest in the last 15 years...even the OP did not think it was a "personal attack" :roll:

I know it must have been frustrating to have been called out so many times but you have to learn to deal with the reality and get over it... :lol:

Jchurch · May 18, 2009

King of Aces said:
We have witness the greatest match of all time and the second greatst match of all time (2008 & 2007 wimbledons).

2008 yes. 2007 while good was no where near as good and is not the second best match of all time.

Blinkism · May 18, 2009

We've got a lot of great matches, just this year.

AO Semi-final Verdasco vs. Nadal
AO Final Nadal vs. Federer
Monte Carlo Nadal vs. Djokovic
Madrid Nadal vs. Djokovic

What are your favourites, guys? Wimby 2008 final was classic, ofcourse.

gj011 · May 18, 2009

vtmike said:
Getting very desperate are we? All I did is ask him how old he was since he claimed that the following is highest in the last 15 years...even the OP did not think it was a "personal attack" :roll:

I know it must have been frustrating to have been called out so many times but you have to learn to deal with the reality and get over it... :lol:

Your question was not so innocent. You came here to ruin the thread because you don't like the OP. There was no need for such reaction on the thread like this one.

I am just taking notice of patterns in your behavior since you ruin every thread you post on, and I couldn't care less about being "called out" by you or your troll friends.

gj011 · May 18, 2009

All-rounder said:
what asking the OP if he was 17 years old?? its jus a simple question it could just be sarcasm you don't know, I think your looking to deep into this

LOL simple question. Whatever. I guess it is too much to ask for an honest opinion from a Fed fanboy.

vtmike · May 18, 2009

^^^ Whatever helps you go to sleep at night... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

thalivest · May 18, 2009

vtmike said:
I thought you said you were 17 years old...

Grow up you pathetic troll. The OP started a nice thread which was fair to all players and you still look to cause trouble.

Deleted member 21996 · May 18, 2009

gj011 said:
You can see, what happens all the time here.

The OP posted a nice thread for a change, complementing all players.
Still, vtmike and similar trolls jumped immediately with personal attacks to ruin it.

??? im confused but isnt a 17 year old passing judgement on how good (bad) was the generation of Bjorn Borg, Jimmy Connors and Jmac...

how is that "complementing all players"?

how does one 17 year old kid have an opinion on what he knows not?

with that said,

OP: this is not more exciting than The late 70's (Borg etal.), the mid 80's (Lendl et al) or the early 90's... IMO.

gj011 · May 18, 2009

vtmike said:
^^^ Whatever helps you go to sleep at night... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Trying to change a subject, when you are exposed?

This is not about me sleeping at night, but about you intentionally destroying a nice thread only because you didn't like OP.

vtmike · May 18, 2009

gj011 said:
Trying to change a subject, when you are exposed?

This is not about me sleeping at night, but about you intentionally destroying a nice thread only because you didn't like OP.

BTW you started trolling in this thread you pathetic troll :lol:

All I did is ask the OP a simple question and you made personal attacks on me and insulted me along with your other green troll friends... :twisted: :lol:

bruce38 · May 18, 2009

Not as exciting as the early 80s IMO. But still it is a great time for tennis now.

gj011 · May 18, 2009

vtmike said:
BTW you started trolling in this thread you pathetic troll :lol:

All I did is ask the OP a simple question and you made personal attacks on me and insulted me along with your other green troll friends... :twisted: :lol:

No you started with trolling and personal attacks here and that is clear to anyone impartial.
Continued trolling will not help you to get away this time.

gj011 · May 18, 2009

King of Aces said:
tennis has the highest anmount of fans in 15 years!

we have the greatest grass courter vs the greatest claycourter battling it out on every surface.

We have witness the greatest match of all time and the second greatst match of all time (2008 & 2007 wimbledons).

we also have a tough #3 and #4 seed.

This golden age is even more exciting than the Borg Mcenroe connors golden age.

This is very exciting time indeed and we could call it the second or third or ... golden age, but I still don't think it is better than 70s and 80s.

vtmike · May 18, 2009

gj011 said:
No you started with trolling and personal attacks here and that is clear to anyone impartial.
Continued trolling will not help you to get away this time.

How old are you? .......... Oops did I just troll again? :roll: :lol:

Cesc Fabregas · May 18, 2009

My personal favourite era was early to the early to mid 90's Sampras, Agassi, Becker, Goran, Edberg, Courier, Chang, Bruguera, Muster etc so many different styles and great players.

GameSampras · May 18, 2009

Not quite. We need to see some new slam winners IMO. The field is getting deeper but many have yet to prove themselves when it matters most

GameSampras · May 18, 2009

Cesc Fabregas said:
My personal favourite era was early to the early to mid 90's Sampras, Agassi, Becker, Goran, Edberg, Courier, Chang, Bruguera, Muster etc so many different styles and great players.

The early-mid 90s was just unreal. So stacked and so many grand slam threats it was ridiculous. From 91-95 thereabouts. The late 90s it dropped quite a bit.

Cesc Fabregas · May 18, 2009

GameSampras said:
The early-mid 90s was just unreal. So stacked and so many grand slam threats it was ridiculous. From 91-95 thereabouts. The late 90s it dropped quite a bit.

Yeah great players on all surfaces

Clay- Courier, Muster, Bruguera, Agassi etc
Grass- Sampras, Edberg, Becker, Stich and Goran
Hardcourts- Sampras, Agassi, Edberg, Courier and Chang

Incredible depth.

GameSampras · May 18, 2009

Cesc Fabregas said:
Yeah great players on all surfaces

Clay- Courier, Muster, Bruguera, Agassi etc
Grass- Sampras, Edberg, Becker, Stich and Goran
Hardcourts- Sampras, Agassi, Edberg, Courier and Chang

Incredible depth.

Absolutely.. And the truth is when we havent seen anything like that since. Its been over a decade and the field has yet to achieve that type of talented depth.

Though I guess we may be headed in that direction. But still a long ways off. Its still a 2 man show I think as far as slams are concerned anyways. Djoker and Murray are close but not quite there yet to be considered legit champions. Both are still young and have a ways to go. Nadal has peak earlier. Whereas we may still have yet to see the best of Murray and DJoker

Cesc Fabregas · May 18, 2009

GameSampras said:
Absolutely.. And the truth is when we havent seen anything like that since. Its been over a decade and the field has yet to achieve that type of talented depth.

Though I guess we may be headed in that direction. But still a long ways off. Its still a 2 man show I think as far as slams are concerned anyways. Djoker and Murray are close but not quite there yet to be considered legit champions. Both are still young and have a ways to go. Nadal has peak earlier. Whereas we may still have yet to see the best of Murray and DJoker

We should thank god were not in the 04-07 era anymore you knew Federer was going to win worst era in tennis history.

jelle v · May 18, 2009

King of Aces said:
tennis has the highest anmount of fans in 15 years!

we have the greatest grass courter vs the greatest claycourter battling it out on every surface.

We have witness the greatest match of all time and the second greatst match of all time (2008 & 2007 wimbledons).

we also have a tough #3 and #4 seed.

This golden age is even more exciting than the Borg Mcenroe connors golden age.

I agree.. the allround level of play of today is just bizarre.. the only thing I regret is that Nadal is playing a slightly weaker clay era. As I said before, there is no doubt in my mind that he would still dominate in the clay court field of 10 - 15 years ago, but it would be nice to see him have a few more tough matches on clay. Imagine matches between Nadal and Bruguera/Muster/Kuerten/Corretja/Strong Ferrero/Healthy Coria/Berasategui/Carlos Costa and all the other strong clay courters from 10 - 15 years ago and add to that Federer and Djokkovic. I would think I had died and gone to tennis heaven..

GameSampras · May 18, 2009

Cesc Fabregas said:
We should thank god were not in the 04-07 era anymore you knew Federer was going to win worst era in tennis history.

Oh god what a joke that 04-07 era was. Dont even get me started. LOL. I could write a thesis on what kind of a joke that era was

Roddick?
Hewitt who was done after 05?
Safin who showed up once a decade?
Nalbandian who never showed up with his A game at the slams
Ljubecheech
Flake?
Brokeback 50 year old Agassi?
Pre Puberty Nadal

Ohhhh... what a joke

helloworld · May 18, 2009

King of Aces said:
we have the greatest grass courter vs the greatest claycourter battling it out on every surface.

You mean Sampras and Borg right??

Cesc Fabregas · May 18, 2009

GameSampras said:
Oh god what a joke that 04-07 era was. Dont even get me started. LOL

Roddick?
Hewitt who was done after 05?
Safin who showed up once a decade?
Nalbandian who never showed up with his A game at the slams
Ljubecheech
Flake?
Brokeback 50 year old Agassi?
Pre Puberty Nadal

Ohhhh... what a joke

Yep it was just the Fed show it go so boring tennis popularity went down hill.

Cesc Fabregas · May 18, 2009

helloworld said:
You mean Sampras and Borg right??

Lol he means the 4th greatest grass courter ever vs the 2nd greatest clay courter.

danb · May 18, 2009

"Golden age" is relative for each.
Personally I like(d):
Borg Mcenroe connors
Pete-Aggasii-Lendl-Becker-etc
and for sure I am in for the Fed-Rafa-Nole-Murray fireworks.

The biggest difference is that nowadays the surfaces are not very polarized as they used to. Plus new technology makes it harder to S&V. Both S&V and baseline bashing have their good and bad aspects. I just wish I'd see more S&V besides the baseline stuff these days. But then it would be perfect...

mtommer · May 18, 2009

I personally think if we could get just three or four more consistently good players, I define consistently good as a match between say number one and number six is a nail biter, we would have a great decade of tennis. As it is, I still think Murray and Djokovic still need to prove themselves just a little more (but this is iffy admittedly), Djokovic mentally at least. I really would have loved to see Tsonga and Gasquet at Murray's or Djokovic's level right now.

GameSampras · May 18, 2009

Well a "golden age" is a relative I suppose. Im just dont know how you can classify this era as a "golden age" when there are only essentially 2 players (excluding Djokers AO win over a year ago when Fed had mono) who can actually win a slam. What have the rest of the field actually proved outside of Fed-Nadal ? That they can win slams? No they havent.

King of Aces · May 18, 2009

GameSampras said:
Well a "golden age" is a relative I suppose. .

Really ??? You have a cousin named "Golde age"??

King of Aces · May 18, 2009

Jchurch said:
2008 yes. 2007 while good was no where near as good and is not the second best match of all time.

I agree. I thought the first Borg & mcenroe Wimbledon was the second greatest match of all time.

2007 Wimbledon Nadal and federer was the third greatest match of all time in my opinion.

People tend to forget how great that match was because 2008 overshadowed it. But make no mistake the 2007 Wimbledon was absolutely awesome and it made Time magazine as well!!

egn · May 18, 2009

Umm 1980s?

Borg
McEnroe
Connors
Lendl
Wilander
Becker
Edberg

One decade my dude of guys all battling. Slams where people were never of sure of who could be in the finals because along with those guys was a deep top 20 that consisted of guys like

Mecir
Cash
Noah
Young Agassi
Kriek
Tanner
Leconte
Villas

Don't forget the epic Davis Cup battles..the 80s produced some of the best tennis ever.

King of Aces · May 18, 2009

egn said:
Umm 1980s?

Borg
McEnroe
Connors
Lendl
Wilander
Becker
Edberg

One decade my dude of guys all battling. Slams where people were never of sure of who could be in the finals because along with those guys was a deep top 20 that consisted of guys like

mixing eras. For example Borg and Wilander played at different times. In fact Lendl and Borg barely played each other. And by the time od Edberg Connors was an old fart or completely retired ...mcenroe was a shadow of his former self.

Edberg was way after connors or Borg.

tons of confusion

Mecir
Cash
Noah
Young Agassi
Kriek
Tanner
Leconte
Villas

Don't forget the epic Davis Cup battles..the 80s produced some of the best tennis ever.

mecir, Kriek, Leconte---- losers

Noah...one slam wonder

Young Agassi......a bit lost.

Tanner.....loser (won the AO when no one played it)

Cash & Vilas....ok they were great.

Serve_Ace · May 18, 2009

How old is everyone?
I'm the best troll there is, no doubt

jimbo333 · May 18, 2009

gj011 said:
This is very exciting time indeed and we could call it the second or third or ... golden age, but I still don't think it is better than 70s and 80s.

I would agree

And there really needs to be a great US player to improve profile in the World as a whole. Now if Nadal became a US citizen......

King of Aces · May 18, 2009

jimbo333 said:
I would agree

And there really needs to be a great US player to improve profile in the World as a whole. Now if Nadal became a US citizen......

like Lendl.

egn · May 18, 2009

King of Aces said:
mixing eras. For example Borg and Wilander played at different times. In fact Lendl and Borg barely played each other. And by the time od Edberg Connors was an old fart or completely retired ...mcenroe was a shadow of his former self.

Edberg was way after connors or Borg.

tons of confusion

mecir, Kriek, Leconte---- losers

Noah...one slam wonder

Young Agassi......a bit lost.

Tanner.....loser (won the AO when no one played it)

Cash & Vilas....ok they were great.

I was not talking one era I was talking the 80s as a whole it was a transition that was amazing

you started with Borg, Connors McEnroe then went to McEnroe, Connors, Lendl then Wilander joined in, and then out of nowhere suddenly Borg and Edberg showed up to do damage. It was a constant transition of great players. With tons of great outside threats. Mecir is not a loser he was a strong force same goes for Leconte, Agassi at his youth added flair, you had Cash and Vilas the 80s was full of thriving tennis players and transitions from one field to the next, there was never a void there was always top players on the tour. Who made you confining golden age to a single era..an age is longer than an era? Besides Lendl and Borg met 10 times at least so to say they did not play much is a lie they played a good amount of times over a condensed period of times in atp play and exhibition play.

grafrules · May 18, 2009

The 80s was the best. McEnroe, Borg, Connors, Vilas to start the decade then McEnroe, Lendl, Connors, Wilander then Lendl, Becker, Edberg, Wilander.

This is the second golden age of tennis

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