10 best seasons, which was the best?

[FedererWinsWimbledon2014]

Here are the top 10 best seasons (11 in total due to tie)

All the greats are in there. Shows you how good Lendl is that he has 3 SEASONS in the top 10. A lot of big names don't make it in there yet Lendl has THREE.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Laver's is the best. Outside of his:

1. Federer - 2006
2. Connors - 1974
3. Djokovic - 2011
4. McEnroe - 1984
5. Federer - 2004

 

[Djokovic2011]

If we take competition into account then surely Djokovic's 2011> any other season in history.

 

[Mayonnaise]

If we take competition into account then surely Djokovic's 2011> any other season in history.

I don't think the OP is asking us to rank the years from weakest to strongest

 

[Djokovic2011]

I don't think the OP is asking us to rank the years from weakest to strongest

Peak Nadal, near peak Federer, close to peak Murray. That comp was tough. It was REAL tough baby!

 

[triforce defender]

McEnroe's 84. He was virtually invincible that year. Had he not blown a 2-set lead in the FO final, there wouldn't even be a debate.

 

[uliks]

Djokovic 2011. It's not even close...

 

[Mayonnaise]

Peak Nadal, near peak Federer, close to peak Murray. That comp was tough. It was REAL tough baby!

One-leg Nadal, grandpa Federer, and no-Slam-until-Djokovic-lost Murray is not tough competition. Please.

 

[Mayonnaise]

McEnroe's 84. He was virtually invincible that year. Had he not blown a 2-set lead in the FO final, there wouldn't even be a debate.

If Federer hadn't blown the 1-set lead in the FO final, he'd have won all 4 Slams + WTF in the same year. McEnroe just has 2 Slams in his best year. No contest. Federer has this.

 

[jhhachamp]

You forgot Laver. I picked Federer's 2006 as 2nd best.

 

[Djokovic2011]

One-leg Nadal, grandpa Federer, and no-Slam-until-Djokovic-lost Murray is not tough competition. Please.

Nadal was 25 and at his peak that year and Federer played close to his peak in several matches also. Murray wasn't quite at 2.0 but he was still tougher than anyone between 03-07. You know all this of course. :wink:

 

[Mayonnaise]

Nadal was 25 and at his peak that year and Federer played close to his peak in several matches also. Murray wasn't quite at 2.0 but he was still tougher than anyone between 03-07. You know all this of course. :wink:

That's like saying, Djokovic, Nadal, and Murray were at their peak in 2007

 

[Djokovic2011]

That's like saying, Djokovic, Nadal, and Murray were at their peak in 2007

I don't know how anyone could argue that Nadal wasn't at his peak in 2011. And I never said that Fed was at his peak that year, only that he showed it in several matches(RG, USO for instance). Like I've said before, focus on the performance rather than the age of the player.

 

[Mayonnaise]

I don't know how anyone could argue that Nadal wasn't at his peak in 2011. And I never said that Fed was at his peak that year, only that he showed it in several matches(RG, USO for instance). Like I've said before, focus on the performance rather than the age of the player.

Nadal's peak was from early 2008 to early 2009.

While he was probably better on Hardcourts in late-2010 to 2011, he was much better on Grass/Clay in 2008.

And :lol: at Federer being at his peak in several matches. It's not physically possible to return to your peak for a few matches in your 30s, when you have a peak like 24-25 Federer had. His backhand has lost its explosiveness since 2006, and while his forehand in 2011 wasn't bad, his movement was nowhere near close to his peak.

 

[eldanger25]

Probably Fed's 2004-06, Borg's two, and 1974/84/2011 in some order.

2005 Fed was maybe his peak level play, but 3/4 of his losses came at the 4 majors plus YEC. Tour was on the whole weaker in '06. I think his 2004 campaign is slightly underrated, what an amazing season.

As far as the other seasons go, Borg in 1979-80 was unreal - Channel Slam plus Masters both years, multiple long winning streaks. Connors 20-0 at the majors in 1974. Mac's 1984 just unreal, probably that RG choke away from being conclusively the best.

2011 was the best first half of a tennis season ever probably. 3 titles during the second half of the year (two of 'em majors) is no small feat, but that fall season was a total dud relative to other great campaigns.

I slightly preferred Lendl's 1987 to his 1986 (74-7 versus 74-6, for comparison) due to quality of title match victories at the big events (pushing Wilander around all year after Mats had beaten him in a few slam finals earlier in their careers), but he was a beast in 1985-86 for sure.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Nadal's peak was from early 2008 to early 2009.

While he was probably better on Hardcourts in late-2010 to 2011, he was much better on Grass/Clay in 2008.

If Djokovic hadn't been so great in 2011, that year would've also been part of Nadal's peak on grass and clay.

 

[Mayonnaise]

If Djokovic hadn't been so great in 2011, that year would've also been part of Nadal's peak on grass and clay.

How? 2008 Nadal didn't drop sets at the French Open to Isner. 2008 Nadal didn't go to the 5th set at Wimbledon to players like Haase and Petzschner.

And, you know, that reminds me. If Federer had won the 2008 Wimbledon and the 2009 Australian Open, 2008-2009 would also be considered a weak era by Djokovic/Nadal fans :lol:

 

[Praetorian]

Peak Nadal, near peak Federer, close to peak Murray. That comp was tough. It was REAL tough baby!

I didn't know Djokovic only played those 3 dudes all year. I learned something new.

 

[Djokovic2011]

I didn't know Djokovic only played those 3 dudes all year. I learned something new.

Exactly. Think of all the other top players he had to face as well as those three!

 

[eldanger25]

If Djokovic hadn't been so great in 2011, that year would've also been part of Nadal's peak on grass and clay.

Maybe. I think Nadal's true "peak" play on clay was over before that (helped in no small part by Novak grounding him down physically during the 2009 CC season, particularly that Madrid SF).

Nadal's 2011 Wimbledon included maybe his easiest first week draw of any of his Wimbledon campaigns - given what Isner nearly did to him during first week RG that year, I wouldn't have been surprised to see him crash out early at Wimbledon had he come across some bigger hitters that year in the first three rounds.

Still, I agree with you that 2011 was part of his Wimbledon prime, if not "peak."

 

[Federer20042006]

2011 Federer for Djokovic? Please. And the fact is, he was a lucky swing down 2 match points away from losing to him twice in slams that year.

He also ran out of gas after winning that US Open.

It was impressive how he was able to kick Nastall's *** and win so many matches he should have lost, but there's no way it compares to Federer's 06 season. Federer reached 16 of 17 finals that year in the tournaments he entered. 3 of his 5 losses were to Nastall on clay...and in one of them, he had match points in a best of 5 (Rome).

 

[eldanger25]

Probably Fed's 2004-06, Borg's two, and 1974/84/2011 in some order.

2005 Fed was maybe his peak level play, but 3/4 of his losses came at the 4 majors plus YEC. Tour was on the whole weaker in '06. I think his 2004 campaign is slightly underrated, what an amazing season.

As far as the other seasons go, Borg in 1979-80 was unreal - Channel Slam plus Masters both years, multiple long winning streaks. Connors 20-0 at the majors in 1974. Mac's 1984 just unreal, probably that RG choke away from being conclusively the best.

2011 was the best first half of a tennis season ever probably. 3 titles during the second half of the year (two of 'em majors) is no small feat, but that fall season was a total dud relative to other great campaigns.

I slightly preferred Lendl's 1987 to his 1986 (74-7 versus 74-6, for comparison) due to quality of title match victories at the big events (pushing Wilander around all year after Mats had beaten him in a few slam finals earlier in their careers), but he was a beast in 1985-86 for sure.

Alongside Ivan's 1987, I'll add Nasty's 1973, Connors's 1976, Pete's 1994, and Nadal's 2008/10/13 as honorable mentions.

 

[Noleberic123]

1. Djokovic-2011

2. Federer-2006

 

[Gonzo_style]

Peak Nadal, near peak Federer, close to peak Murray. That comp was tough. It was REAL tough baby!

No, Ljubicic and skinny guys like Baghdatis and Nalbandian were stronger competition

 

[90's Clay]

None of the above. Laver's '69 season.. Clearly.

 

[borg number one]

It depends on if you're focusing on just majors or tournaments throughout the year. Borg's 1978-80 included three channel slams in a row but you could choose 1979 for him. I'd go with Rod Laver in 1969.

 

[Mayonnaise]

No, Ljubicic and skinny guys like Baghdatis and Nalbandian were stronger competition

Nadal was around in 2006, making 2 Slam finals. Why do you ignore him, troll? :lol:

 

[Gonzo_style]

Nadal was around in 2006, making 2 Slam finals. Why do you ignore him, troll? :lol:

Nadal was 20-years old, troll! Tell me Federear results in 2001

 

[triforce defender]

Andre Agassi 1997 :razz::razz:

 

[The Green Mile]

Just out of curiosity, what was Pete's greatest season with % and Win/loss?

 

[tacou]

Fed '06. It is enhanced by his insane 2004 and 2005 records.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Nadal was 20-years old, troll! Tell me Federear results in 2001

Federer in 2001 wasn't a Slam champion

But he did beat Sampras at Wimbledon.

Nadal in 2006 was already a Slam champion and the world #2.

 

[Gonzo_style]

Federer in 2001 wasn't a Slam champion

But he did beat Sampras at Wimbledon.

Nadal in 2006 was already a Slam champion and the world #2.

He was non-factor outside of clay, he was #2 with his best results on clay mostly...

 

[Mayonnaise]

He was non-factor outside of clay, he was #2 with his best results on clay mostly...

Yes, the guy that made the Wimbledon final was a non-factor off clay :lol:

Please, you're embarrassing yourself. I know you started watching Tennis in 2011, but that's no excuse

 

[eldanger25]

As I said earlier, I think Fed 2004 is slightly underrated relative to his '05 and '06 campaigns.

Among a million other reasons, Fed 2004 was great because that's where he just shut the door on his generational peers. It was like whack-a-mole: Hewitt/Nalby/Ferrero/Safin back-to-back-to-back in Australia, Hewitt/Roddick at SW19, Hewitt at the US Open (plus a big win over Agassi), Safin/Hewitt at the YEC. Big win over pre-yips Coria at the old Hamburg clay masters event as well.

That Fed intimidation factor was born in '04. Got a lot of nostalgia for that season, even if I didn't always root for him in all of those matches.

 

[AssaultJoker]

Fed's 06 season is garbage compared to Djokovic 11.

Djoko at AO11 semifinals/finals faced Federer/Murray.

Federer at AO06 semifinals/finals faced Kierfer/Baghdatis.

Djoko at USO11 semifinals/finals faced Federer/Nadal.

Federer at USO06 semifinals/finals faced Davydenko/Roddick.

Don't compare Federer's kindergarten competition during his imaginable prime to Djokovic's competition in 2011 season.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Fed's 06 season is garbage compared to Djokovic 11.

Djoko at AO11 semifinals/finals faced Federer/Murray.

Federer at AO06 semifinals/finals faced Kierfer/Baghdatis.

Djoko at USO11 semifinals/finals faced Federer/Nadal.

Federer at USO06 semifinals/finals faced Davydenko/Roddick.

Don't compare Federer's kindergarten competition during his imaginable prime to Djokovic's competition in 2011 season.

2011 Djokovic lost to grandpa Federer at a Slam in 2011. What's more, it was at Grandpa Federer's worst Slam :lol:

2006 Federer only lost to Clay GOAT on Clay

3 Slams, 1 Slam final, WTF > 3 Slams, 1 Slam semifinal

 

[eldanger25]

Fed's 06 season is garbage compared to Djokovic 11.

Djoko at AO11 semifinals/finals faced Federer/Murray.

Federer at AO06 semifinals/finals faced Kierfer/Baghdatis.

Djoko at USO11 semifinals/finals faced Federer/Nadal.

Federer at USO06 semifinals/finals faced Davydenko/Roddick.

Don't compare Federer's kindergarten competition during his imaginable prime to Djokovic's competition in 2011 season.

Novak went a whopping 6-5 after the 2011 US Open. Couldn't get out of the round robin portion of the YEC. One of the greatest seasons of all time, but not better than some of Fed or Borg's campaigns, among others.

 

[Gonzo_style]

Yes, the guy that made the Wimbledon final was a non-factor off clay :lol:

Please, you're embarrassing yourself. I know you started watching Tennis in 2011, but that's no excuse

Exactly, good point, inexperienced 20-years old clay courter Nadal who previously played only ten matches on grass ( before Wimbledon 2006) shows how strong was that season.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Exactly, good point, inexperienced 20-years old clay courter Nadal who previously played only ten matches on grass ( before Wimbledon 2006) shows how strong was that season.

Better than peak Djokovic losing to a grandpa on his worst surface :lol:

 

[Djokovic2011]

2011 Djokovic lost to grandpa Federer at a Slam in 2011. What's more, it was at Grandpa Federer's worst Slam :lol:

2006 Federer only lost to Clay GOAT on Clay

3 Slams, 1 Slam final, WTF > 3 Slams, 1 Slam semifinal

Fed played as well in that RG match as he did at his very peak. Novak also won 5 Masters titles in 2011 and won his first 41 matches of the season. That has to count for something too, as well as going 12-2 v Nadal/Federer/Murray.

 

[Gonzo_style]

Better than peak Djokovic losing to a grandpa on his worst surface :lol:

yes, bad loss against 31-years old African, no doubt about that.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Fed played as well in that RG match as he did at his very peak. Novak also won 5 Masters titles in 2011 and won his first 41 matches of the season. That has to count for something too, as well as going 12-2 v Nadal/Federer/Murray.

WTF + Slam Final > Slam Semifinal + Master

Also, 92-5 > 70-6

 

[triforce defender]

Better than peak Djokovic losing to a grandpa on his worst surface :lol:

1984 McEnroe is still the best!

 

[Gonzo_style]

WTF + Slam Final > Slam Semifinal + Master

Also, 92-5 > 70-6

helps when you play against Ljubicic

 

[Noleberic123]

Fed played as well in that RG match as he did at his very peak. Novak also won 5 Masters titles in 2011 and won his first 41 matches of the season. That has to count for something too, as well as going 12-2 v Nadal/Federer/Murray.

Mayo thinks Federer isn't allowed to occasionally play his best due to his advanced age. Which is ridiculous I know

 

[Djokovic2011]

WTF + Slam Final > Slam Semifinal + Master

Also, 92-5 > 70-6

Oh I agree that Fed's 2006 was better statistically but if we're considering competition I think the general consensus would be Nole's 2011> Fed's 2006. I've seen many Federer fans themselves admit that 06 wasn't a very strong year in terms of comp.

 

[Mayonnaise]

Better to beat Ljubicic than to lose to grandpas :lol:

 

[Djokovic2011]

Mayo thinks Federer isn't allowed to occasionally play his best due to his advanced age. Which is ridiculous I know

Hello my friend! Yeah, Mayo is way too focused on players' ages. It's almost as if he believes that as soon as a player reaches 30 he becomes a "grandpa" and can no longer keep the ball in the court which is utter nonsense of course.

 

[Noleberic123]

Mayo or whatever is an Indian clown who spends most of his free time on this forum, 50 posts per day LOL is that a record?

actually a few weeks ago, I had 160+ posts in 1 day

I had nothing else to do that day lol