ronalditop
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I thought the match was gonna end something like 62 61. I'm glad Sakkari could won more than 3 games. She's improving.
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spystud
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Cross-posting this not for the match, but for the bolded.
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D-Lite
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Impressive feat. It seems the tour really are at her mercy. For my liking, she's not playing Sabalenka or Rybakina enough. When you combine tournament withdrawals, walkovers and surprise losses with their high seeds, the stars have to align for them to meet. I think Osaka will need to return to absolute top gear to be able to trouble Iga, and as we all know Gauff can only beat her when she's on top form and Swiatek has a bad day. It is also a shame Muchova fell of the face of the Earth last year with injury after some good results last year and actually taking Iga to 3 at RG. I really hope we can see some more challenges for her this year, as it's impressive but we all want some drama and close match ups.
AM75
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Iga‘s fanboys have no clue, really. Come to Wollerau and watch Hingis training (she does train still) in TC Ried. You‘ll be surprised how hard her strokes are and how good her topspin is.
Tennis evolves, and we don‘t know how good great players would be if they had today‘s racquets and strings. Hingis could definitely still compete and be good in doubles at least. She just choose not to.
Connor35
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When Naomi last played Iga before her break, Miami 2022, Iga bageled her in the final.
D-Lite
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Yeah Osaka was not at her peak at all, that's my point she needs to be red hot to take Iga out.
Connor35
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Yep. Iga has more 1000 titles than #2 Sabalenka, #3 Gauff and #4 Sabalenka combined.
Some people think of her as a clay court specialist, but she also has as many 1000-level *hard court* titles as #2, #3 and #4 combined.
robyrolfo
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First off, you really want to compare topspin rates between a player using modern equipment and strings, and players from 20 years ago? What? Not to mention that Seles was more of a flat hitter with her unique style. And for all the spin that Iga puts on the ball, what does it get her? Have you even seen her play lately? Most of her rally balls are harmless. They may have lots of spin, but if they land around the service line in the middle of the court (as most of them do), then they aren't going to trouble anyone. It only works because she occasionally hits one deeper or more angled (deliberately or not), but more often because her opponent is playing without a brain and simply tries to bash the ball harder than her.
More than that, I'd love to see how Swiatek is going to generate all that topspin when she is hitting a hard, low, angled slice that barely comes up off the ground. If you don't think Graf could completely disarm Swiatek with her amazing slice backhand, then you understand nothing.
And these comments on Swiatek's face? I don't even understand what you are talking about.
As for Serena's stats, people are welcome to talk about them, but they can't begin and end with the number of slams she has won. Because that is pretty much the only stat where she is superior to Graf and Navratilova (and not by much), while being vastly inferior in other stats.
Lastly, I'd suggest you work a bit on your reading comprehension. In CONTEXT, I was simply saying she is one of the greatest human beings to have ever played tennis. Not in general. But I guess you would need some critical thinking skills to grasp such a thing...
Another bad look for the WTA and the current level of play.
Yep. And all the complaints about equal match scheduling on the showcase courts. I'm fine with equal pay, because of the principle. But I have no issue with the men getting the big matches on the showcase courts right now.
That might change at some point in the future, and it wasn't always the case in the past, but today's WTA cannot guarantee an even semi-decent or competitive match in a big spot.
Exactly. They don't seem to understand how the sport works, and how good some of those great players really were. And they clearly don't understand what the equipment was like in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
Haha, I take things back - we really need that restraining order for you.
Yes, they clearly trouble no-one. You literally live in an alternate reality.
I'd love to see how Steffi is going to generate a hard, angled slice on clay off of much higher and pacier ball. As I said before you might have seen a clay court on a telly but you certainly never stood or play on one. You have no clue.
Below is your own quote about the way she looks. I know you spout a lot of rubbish and it seems like you don't really understand it yourself.
Nice try to spin on what you actually wrote but I'd be embarrassed too.
volleyandfun
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We have a new English teacher here. He/she is teaching you now how to read, and was teaching me before how to write.
Aussie Darcy
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robyrolfo
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Look at who Swiatek is playing lately, and now they are playing. Swiatek hits a weak 2nd serve, or an average rally ball that lands around the service line around the middle of the court, and what do most of her opponents do? They attempt to bash a ball right back at her, giving her yet another chance to try and hit a better shot. And on and on it goes. The moment she faces someone like Ostapenka, Sabalenka or Rybakina, when they are actually on their games, they immediately put Swiatek under pressure with some pace and/or angles that immediate scramble Swiatek's head.
And if you don't understand how Graf could easily use her slice against Swiatek, you have absolutely no understand of the sport, regardless of surface. We are talking about the greatest backhand slice in the history of Women's tennis, by far, and a shot that carried Graf to 22 slams by the age of 30. I mean, she only won a paltry 6 French Open titles, so clearly she struggled on the clay, right?
As for my quote, read it again. I mentioned your prior issues with reading comprehension, and this is yet another example. Saying that someone has a nervous look on their face has absolute nothing to do with how attractive their face may or may not be. Stop making things up. Marta Kostyuk looks like she is about to start crying in most of her matches, and her face looks absolutely gorgeous.
Sure. I'm always happy to help.
ScottleeSV
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Sabalenka is going to play, apparently. Feels like a car crash waiting to happen. She's emotional on court at the best of times.
Imagine if she reaches the final. The other player doing their speech is going to have to work really hard on what to say.
Imagine if she reaches the final. The other player doing their speech is going to have to work really hard on what to say.
As I said before - the pace plus topspin rate Graf faced in the 90's is nowhere near what Świątek is able to generate these days. She would absolutely destroy Graf's backhand.
As to the other bit - if you are able to read (clearly you're not) - you would have noticed that I had conceded that you hadn't commented on Świątek's "attractiveness". Nevertheless your comment on Świątek's lack of smart and savvy champion looks and your unhealthy obsession with Steffi Graf proves that you should seek help.
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
So Iga is already the GOAT? Or, more specifically, the best WTA player with the highest playing level?
robyrolfo
Hall of Fame
You realize that Graf beat Lindsay Davenport during her 1999 French Open run, right? You don't think Linsday had powerful strokes? That's ALL she had, and Graf still handled it. You also seem to think Swiatek hits her best stuff on every single ball, which is nowhere near the case, even with opponents that are basically ball machines for her.
And yes, supporting the argument for Steffi Graf's greatness, on a tennis forum, is surely a sign of an unhealthy obsession. No doubt about it...
Haha, absolutely yes! No, not really - crapload of flaws in her game but I still think Graf with her ohbh wouldn't cope with her on clay. On grass? No contest obviously. But we'll never find out anyway.
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