365 Days...the Golden Slam...

[consistency wins]

It starts tomorrow.

Roger is at the bottom. He lost Wimbledon, he lost his #1 ranking and he's at the pits of the bottom of his world. Tomorrow, he starts a quest of something no one has ever done--a calendar slam and gold medal in the same year.

My prediction:

Roger wins the Gold in China. He wins the year-ending MS. He wins the AO, FO, Wimbledon and the US Open. In 365 days, Roger will attain this. He has nothing else to lose. Rafa will think too much about that #1 spot. Roger will not care about it any longer. Roger will get what no one has done. Attain it all in one year.


Call me crazy, but I think we are all about to witness the greatest 365 days in tennis anyone has ever seen....

 

[consistency wins]

And I mean in men's tennis...not Steffi Graf....

 

[daddy]

If this was a joke it would be good for you .. Anyways at least you're lucky to be able to realise you are wrong in just a few days.

 

[joeri888]

I don't believe this will happen. I think he can win more slams, maybe even get back to no. 1. But the FO is unlikely, and so is winning the other 3 AND the olympics in a row now.
I'll be happy if he wins the gold and two slams of the next 5.

 

[boredone3456]

The golden slam is winning the medal in the same year as the 4 slams...winning all 4 slams next year with the gold this year doesn't count as being golden. I hope this is a joke because its not going to happen

 

[Rhino]

It seems that 50% of threads these days are people trying to predict the future.
Then people post things about how they are nuts, or insult them. Then if their prediction comes true, it's "haha you heard it from ME", or if it's wrong people say "I told you that could never happen, keep dreaming moron".

Now there is this habit of people making outlandish predictions that are very unlikely.
What next? Vince Spadea to win US Open!

 

[Cup8489]

It seems that 50% of threads these days are people trying to predict the future.
Then people post things about how they are nuts, or insult them. Then if their prediction comes true, it's "haha you heard it from ME", or if it's wrong people say "I told you that could never happen, keep dreaming moron".

Now there is this habit of people making outlandish predictions that are very unlikely.
What next? Vince Spadea to win US Open!

dude, you called it. he's gonna win it now, just because you said so. he'll rap his opponents into submission.

 

[Fedexeon]

I won't say it is not possible, because nothing is impossible.

 

[scineram]

Haas wins the Open. Mark my words.

 

[Grimjack]

A) The "golden" slam is a joke, because the Olympic gold is a complete non-entity on the tennis scene. No fans give a crap about it, no players gave a crap about it until they started awarding points for it, and history could not possibly care less about it. There are slams, and there is everything else. Olympic tennis gold is less than meaningless. Just look at a history of the "winners" and you'll instantly see the truth in this statement.

B) It's impossible to do what you said will be done in 365 days, because all 5 of those tournaments won't even be played within 365 days.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

A) The "golden" slam is a joke, because the Olympic gold is a complete non-entity on the tennis scene. No fans give a crap about it, no players gave a crap about it until they started awarding points for it, and history could not possibly care less about it. There are slams, and there is everything else. Olympic tennis gold is less than meaningless. Just look at a history of the "winners" and you'll instantly see the truth in this statement.

B) It's impossible to do what you said will be done in 365 days, because all 5 of those tournaments won't even be played within 365 days.

what a sportsman you are....

 

[daddy]

I won't say it is not possible, because nothing is impossible.

You mean Spadea winning USO or Federer winning a golden slam in next 365 ? Cause Spadea thing is somewhat possible.

 

[cknobman]

I do agree that Rafa is going to be thinking about his #1 ranking and it will create additional stress on him plus he may loose a little drive being on top.

He wont be able to keep #1 for a full year.

 

[TheTruth]

A) The "golden" slam is a joke, because the Olympic gold is a complete non-entity on the tennis scene. No fans give a crap about it, no players gave a crap about it until they started awarding points for it, and history could not possibly care less about it. There are slams, and there is everything else. Olympic tennis gold is less than meaningless. Just look at a history of the "winners" and you'll instantly see the truth in this statement.

B) It's impossible to do what you said will be done in 365 days, because all 5 of those tournaments won't even be played within 365 days.

I agree with A. I wish these games were already over so we can get to the Open.

 

[TheTruth]

I do agree that Rafa is going to be thinking about his #1 ranking and it will create additional stress on him plus he may loose a little drive being on top.

He wont be able to keep #1 for a full year.

It's only year end #1 that matters. Holding it consecutively is only a stat. How many times do you hear someone announce: Carlos Moya, former world #1 for ten days during the month of June.

Although that is an awesome achievement of Federer's, and people will mention it in the future, I doubt they'll always say, Federer, former world #1, for 4.5 consecutively without surrendering a week in between. Most probably it will be former world #1 like everybody else. In ten or twenty years those kinds of stats will be obscure, just like Vilas not even knowing he held the longest clay court streak until Nadal approached it.

 

[flyer]

Haas wins the Open. Mark my words.

hahaha consider them marked

 

[veroniquem]

It starts tomorrow.

Roger is at the bottom. He lost Wimbledon, he lost his #1 ranking and he's at the pits of the bottom of his world. Tomorrow, he starts a quest of something no one has ever done--a calendar slam and gold medal in the same year.

My prediction:

Roger wins the Gold in China. He wins the year-ending MS. He wins the AO, FO, Wimbledon and the US Open. In 365 days, Roger will attain this. He has nothing else to lose. Rafa will think too much about that #1 spot. Roger will not care about it any longer. Roger will get what no one has done. Attain it all in one year.


Call me crazy, but I think we are all about to witness the greatest 365 days in tennis anyone has ever seen....

Think about Rafa never losing a match at the FO and going on the longest 1 surface winning streak in tennis history by far, never releasing the #2 spot in 3 years for a single day despite a severe foot injury at the end of 2005 and knee tendinitis in 2007, think about how Rafa reacted when he was on the verge of losing his #2 spot to Djokovic and you'll have some idea about how he will handle the pressure of becoming #1...

 

[TheTruth]

Think about Rafa never losing a match at the FO and going on the longest 1 surface winning streak in tennis history by far, never releasing the #2 spot in 3 years for a single day despite a severe foot injury at the end of 2005 and knee tendinitis in 2007, think about how Rafa reacted when he was on the verge of losing his #2 spot to Djokovic and you'll have some idea about how he will handle the pressure of becoming #1...

Awesome post!

 

[cknobman]

It's only year end #1 that matters. Holding it consecutively is only a stat. How many times do you hear someone announce: Carlos Moya, former world #1 for ten days during the month of June.

Although that is an awesome achievement of Federer's, and people will mention it in the future, I doubt they'll always say, Federer, former world #1, for 4.5 consecutively without surrendering a week in between. Most probably it will be former world #1 like everybody else. In ten or twenty years those kinds of stats will be obscure, just like Vilas not even knowing he held the longest clay court streak until Nadal approached it.

Wrong. It will always be remembered that Fed held #1 for 4.5 years consecutive. Only reason people arent refered to that way now is because no one has even come close to an achievement like that. Kinda like Rafa holding the #2 spot for 3 years without surrendering a week. People will always remember Rafa this way unless by chance he eclipses that mark with an even longer consecutive week streak at #1.

In fact you just gave props to veroniquem for a post that referred to Rafa in that very way which is just how Fed fans referr to Feds achievements.

 

[Lotto]

As much as I wish that would happen, it won't. Roger is havinga seriously bad year this year, lets hope he gets back to his best next year though.

And you do know that Rafa may not be No.1 on August 18th.......If Federer wins Gold and Nadal gets knocked out anywhere between the 1st Round and Quarter-Finals Federer will be No.1 again. But if Nadal gets to the Semis and Federer wins it he'll still be No.1 by a bit. I think about 100 points or so.

 

[TennisandMusic]

As much as I wish that would happen, it won't. Roger is havinga seriously bad year this year, lets hope he gets back to his best next year though.

And you do know that Rafa may not be No.1 on August 18th.......If Federer wins Gold and Nadal gets knocked out anywhere between the 1st Round and Quarter-Finals Federer will be No.1 again. But if Nadal gets to the Semis and Federer wins it he'll still be No.1 by a bit. I think about 100 points or so.

This is not true whatsoever.

 

[Tarsier]

As much as I wish that would happen, it won't. Roger is havinga seriously bad year this year, lets hope he gets back to his best next year though.

And you do know that Rafa may not be No.1 on August 18th.......If Federer wins Gold and Nadal gets knocked out anywhere between the 1st Round and Quarter-Finals Federer will be No.1 again. But if Nadal gets to the Semis and Federer wins it he'll still be No.1 by a bit. I think about 100 points or so.

You're wrong, man. Rafa's #1 no matter what happens at the Olympics.

 

[TheTruth]

Wrong. It will always be remembered that Fed held #1 for 4.5 years consecutive. Only reason people arent refered to that way now is because no one has even come close to an achievement like that. Kinda like Rafa holding the #2 spot for 3 years without surrendering a week. People will always remember Rafa this way unless by chance he eclipses that mark with an even longer consecutive week streak at #1.

In fact you just gave props to veroniquem for a post that referred to Rafa in that very way which is just how Fed fans referr to Feds achievements.

People don't keep repeating facts like that forever. That's why Vilas himself didn't know he held the clay court streak record. How long was Becker #2 before he became #1? What years did Laver first begin winning slams and when did he stop? Which grand slams did Lew Hoad win? What trophies did Emerson hold? How many weeks did Agassi hold the #1 spot? All of those stats get condensed into one sentence. Former world #1.

I gave props to Veroniquem's post because it was objective, and based on what we've seen.

IMO, no one is going to do the same things, hold the same records, or be held to the exact same standards. Your post implies that Rafa has to eclipse Fed's consecutive weeks, when in reality that isn't true. Rafa will have his own legacy, maybe matching something of Borg, something of Federer's, something of Vilas, etc. But future generations will refer to him as a former world number one. They will not attach all of his accomplishments to his name by way of introduction.

 

[Deleted member 25923]

Think about Rafa never losing a match at the FO and going on the longest 1 surface winning streak in tennis history by far, never releasing the #2 spot in 3 years for a single day despite a severe foot injury at the end of 2005 and knee tendinitis in 2007, think about how Rafa reacted when he was on the verge of losing his #2 spot to Djokovic and you'll have some idea about how he will handle the pressure of becoming #1...

#1 and #2 are very different entities. If you read McEnroe's book, you would know that firsthand.

 

[cknobman]

People don't keep repeating facts like that forever. That's why Vilas himself didn't know he held the clay court streak record. How long was Becker #2 before he became #1? What years did Laver first begin winning slams and when did he stop? Which grand slams did Lew Hoad win? What trophies did Emerson hold? How many weeks did Agassi hold the #1 spot? All of those stats get condensed into one sentence. Former world #1.

I gave props to Veroniquem's post because it was objective, and based on what we've seen.

IMO, no one is going to do the same things, hold the same records, or be held to the exact same standards. Your post implies that Rafa has to eclipse Fed's consecutive weeks, when in reality that isn't true. Rafa will have his own legacy, maybe matching something of Borg, something of Federer's, something of Vilas, etc. But future generations will refer to him as a former world number one. They will not attach all of his accomplishments to his name by way of introduction.

Ok Ill admit that future generations wont remember todays champions like we do. But for anyone who has had the pleasure of watching and following guys like Roger or Rafa they will never forget their accomplishments. 40 years from now I wont be referring to Roger as just a former number 1 just like many of the poster here who grew up in Borgs era dont refer to him a just some guy who used to be #1 or some guy who won the FO a few times.

 

[teneighty]

Haas wins the Open. Mark my words.

that would be awesome...

 

[Lotto]

This is not true whatsoever.

You're wrong, man. Rafa's #1 no matter what happens at the Olympics.

Is he? Maybe I did the calculations wrong?

According to the ATP Rankings,

Federer = 6680 currently.

On Monday 18th he is 6680 - 500(last years cincy)

But then, the olympics is on this week and if he wins that he gets 400 points =

6680-500+400 = 6580

Nadal =6455 Currently.

On Monday 18th he is 6455-5(Last years Cincy)

But again, the olympics, you get 100 for reaching the QF so if he reaches them he would be

6455-5+100 = 6550


Am I going wrong somewhere??

I don't know, I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm not 100% sure of the ins and outs of the system. Maybe someone with more expertese could answer this?

 

[Thor]

Is he? Maybe I did the calculations wrong?

According to the ATP Rankings,

Federer = 6680 currently.

On Monday 18th he is 6680 - 500(last years cincy)

But then, the olympics is on this week and if he wins that he gets 400 points =

6680-500+400 = 6580

Nadal =6455 Currently.

On Monday 18th he is 6455-5(Last years Cincy)

But again, the olympics, you get 100 for reaching the QF so if he reaches them he would be

6455-5+100 = 6550


Am I going wrong somewhere??

I don't know, I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm not 100% sure of the ins and outs of the system. Maybe someone with more expertese could answer this?

Now drop Rogers result at Canada from last year(350 points) and then Nadal's(225) - Rafa is #1 no matter what

 

[Lotto]

Now drop Rogers result at Canada from last year(350 points) and then Nadal's(225) - Rafa is #1 no matter what

Oh, Canada's haven't been dropped yet.

Thats where I'm going wrong. Cheers.

 

[kelz]

maximum fail thread.

 

[TheTruth]

Ok Ill admit that future generations wont remember todays champions like we do. But for anyone who has had the pleasure of watching and following guys like Roger or Rafa they will never forget their accomplishments. 40 years from now I wont be referring to Roger as just a former number 1 just like many of the poster here who grew up in Borgs era dont refer to him a just some guy who used to be #1 or some guy who won the FO a few times.

As fans of a particular player we'll remember all of these things. That's what makes us fans. At least in the future after the next greatest thing comes along we'll be there to school the younger generation who says"Federer would've have gotten killed by Ikko Meneke", then we'll say, "kid you're crazy. You just don't know what Federer did. He was #1 for four and a half years, held the #1 spot for 238 consecutive weeks...And we'll sound like tennis scholars for knowing these things!

 

[scineram]

held the #1 spot for 238 consecutive weeks

That will be 237 actually, lol.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

I won't say it is not possible, because nothing is impossible.

so says adidas...