Again Murray and Federer got centre court

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
Murray and Fed will make more money for Wimbledon

That is the one and only reason
Actually they will make no more money as those tickets are already sold. They would make more money if they shifted the best matches to the next court where the tickets don't sell as quickly because they could be sold for more and at, effectively, spot-prices.

They do what they do to reward those who buy the most expensive tickets the earliest with marquee matches. If they don't then ticketholders get cheesed off.

Too simple for some to grasp apparently.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Actually they will make no more money as those tickets are already sold. They would make more money if they shifted the best matches to the next court where the tickets don't sell as quickly because they could be sold for more and at, effectively, spot-prices.

They do what they do to reward those who buy the most expensive tickets the earliest with marquee matches. If they don't then ticketholders get cheesed off.


Too simple for some to grasp apparently.

People who have paid top dollars for center court need to be catered well. The high priced ticket holders are the ones who will come to CC time and time again and you don't want to treat them with lesser stars on manic Monday
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
lol Yh. Now that I think about it, I maybe wrong about this one. But hey I'm probably the first TTW member ever to admit it that I'm wrong so that's something.
You're not wrong about the fact that they schedule all four matches the same day, starting late, on a day when rain is forecast. That's a tall order in one day even with two roofs. You figure 4 matches under each roof, minimum of 8-12 hours.
 
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MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
It's not fair that everyone doesn't get equal Centre Court time? Oh well then, that's sports. Why aren't you campaigning for Sam Querrey or Marin Cilic to get equal time on Centre? Wouldn't that be the fair thing to do? Don't be a hypocrite. It's because their resumes don't justify it. Rafa & Novak's cachet at Wimbledon simply can't compete with the all-time champion and the man to break a 70 year curse. I know that, you know that, and the organizers know that.
 

Roddick85

Hall of Fame
Fred is Fred. However on the tennis podcast the female member got borderline hysterical that Fred is always on CC and Venus isn't. Some kind of feminist thing.
I hope that one day, they stop having Mens/Ladies playing at the same time in majors. It would put an end to all of the scheduling, broadcasting issues we face because of this, on top of the feminist/pay debate. Let them be independent, ladies could then have the CC all they want, the real question would then become, how many people actually show up to watch them?

Broadcaster being upset about this is non-sense. I think a lot of people are missing the point about Center Court. It's the show court, where you show the "money matches", your biggest names, the best possible match, not a match with very low interest to air out your political vendetta. On paper, the most interesting match tomorrow is definitely Federer vs Dimitrov, and I think a lot of tennis fans will agree with me on that one. If I'm paying these outrageous prices to get a seat on CC tomorrow and I see that they put Federer on court #1 and I have to watch Venus against Konjuh, which I have zero interest in, how do you think I would react? How will the rest of the crowd react?
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
I mean in this particular instance there is really no case for a match against Muller or Mannarino being on Centre over one against Dimitrov. They want more people to see the biggest match, and that is plenty fair.
 

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
How many wimbledons do they have between them? The same amount as Tomic the tank engine.
Exactly. If you're going to use a player's history to argue for what court they deserve, Fed & Muzz should never be moved off Centre. No two active players are more important to the All England Club than them, including Novak & Rafa.
 

Rafa24

Hall of Fame
Exactly. If you're going to use a player's history to argue for what court they deserve, Fed & Muzz should never be moved off Centre. No two active players are more important to the All England Club than them, including Novak & Rafa.

Djoker has more wimbys than Muzzard? I don't think so. 3-2. And as far as that goes Rafa has 2 and has been in 5 finals one of which was considered the best match of all time. But even then because of current ranking and last year winning it muzzard should be on center court.
 

JMR

Hall of Fame
I'd like to see complaints like these phrased in terms of the other players in the matchups: "Why did that dastardly Dimitrov get placed on Centre Court instead of the mighty Mannarino?! So unfair!"
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
The world #1, defending champion, and hometown favorite getting the center court is as expected as can be. I'd also say that he's earned it (if there were such a thing as earning the right to play on center court).

As for Federer, he's the marquee star of the show. If you hired Tom Cruise in the '90s, you wouldn't put Brad Pitt's face on the poster, because however big a star he was, Cruise was the biggest.

Fanboy, so Murray is #1 (the highest on the ATP list) and he deserves to play all his matches on the center court. But both Djokovic and Nadal have higher ATP ranking than Federer and you say Federer should be over them. In other words, your criteria of ATP ranking doesn't apply since you use it only when you want. You are just a Federer fanboy, Federer should play all his matches on the center court, because yes, because he is Federer. Nadal? No, he must play some matches on Court 1, because yes, because he is Nadal and I'm a Federer fanboy. You don't justify your arguments with logic but with fanatism.
 
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Sport

G.O.A.T.
please explain in what sense it may be unfair. Fed and Murray are crowd favorites and should be on the courts where the most people can see them. That's fair -- to the fans who buy the tickets for this whole thing. Do you think Nadal and Djok have some competitive disadvantage on the other courts?

Djokovic is more "favorite" than Murray to win the tournament, he has more Wimbledon titles and is a better player on grass. Also, Djokovic has higher ATP ranking than Federer. Djokovic is also seeded No. 2 and Federer No. 3. Why on Earth are you still justifying than Federer should not play any single match on the Court 1 but Nadal and Djokovic should? Because you are a Federer fanboy. You don't justify your "arguments" with any logic at all. If Federer doesn't play any match on the Court 1, so should do Djokovic who is seeded #2.
 

Candide

Hall of Fame
There is clear bias here against slow, defensive, dull and ugly players vs those who take risks and play aesthetically pleasing tennis that the crowds are clamoring to see. Boo. Hiss.
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Sport

G.O.A.T.
If they put Nadal and Nole on center court then other fans will complain. It's a no win situation for the organizers.


I think Federer/Murray sell more tickets than Nadal/Nole so it's reasonable to put them on a biggest stadium.

That's a good explanation they did it for money. I don't think Murray sell more tickets than Nadal though. I think Murray plays on the centre court because he is the current champion. And Federer is definetely the one who sell more tickets on Wimbledon, a lot of fans want to see his 19th Major and 8th Wimbledon.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
There is clear bias here against slow, defensive, dull and ugly players vs those who take risks and play aesthetically pleasing tennis that the crowds are clamoring to see. Boo. Hiss.
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There is no bias against dull players, look at Murray. And there is also no bias against slow players, look at Federer.
 

The_18th_Slam

Hall of Fame
Fanboy, so Murray is #1 (the highest on the ATP list) and he deserves to play all his matches on the center court. But both Djokovic and Nadal have higher ATP ranking than Federer and you say Federer should be over them. In other words, your criteria of ATP ranking doesn't apply since you use it only when you want. You are just a Federer fanboy, Federer should play all his matches on the center court, because yes, because he is Federer. Nadal? No, he must play some matches on Court 1, because yes, because he is Nadal and I'm a Federer fanboy. You don't justify your arguments with logic but with fanatism.
Calm down, kid. I know my post caused you immeasurable butthurt, but you're not reading what I'm writing. I didn't say Federer deserves to play on center court. He doesn't. Nobody "deserves" it. I'm merely explaining why Wimbledon chooses to put him on center court over Nadal and Djokovic.

I couldn't care less where Federer plays. They could put him on Court 10 and I wouldn't bat an eyelid, because I don't care. He isn't entitled to anything other than a fair match.
 
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ChrisRF

Legend
I have a straightforward opinion here:

1) Every player in the field should be treated the same concerning winning chances in the tournament. That’s why the organisers should try to make every court the same in terms of surface, playing conditions etc. There should be no (or as few as possible) differences between Centre Court and something like Court 20 or so. Also the scheduling should be fair to everyone concerning free time between matches.

2) Apart from that the fans decide. So the players or matches which likely get the biggest possible audience are in the biggest stadiums. Because if playing conditions are the same everywhere, why should Federer and Murray play in a smaller stadium? The results were many displeased people who cannot see them and on the other hand many empty seats on Centre Court. Such an interpretation of “equality” wouldn’t make sense at all.
 
The world #1, defending champion, and hometown favorite getting the center court is as expected as can be. I'd also say that he's earned it (if there were such a thing as earning the right to play on center court).

As for Federer, he's the marquee star of the show. If you hired Tom Cruise in the '90s, you wouldn't put Brad Pitt's face on the poster, because however big a star he was, Cruise was the biggest.

Can't argue with this - Murray and Federer are what the crowd want at Wimbledon.
 

helennnnnn

Professional
Fred is Fred. However on the tennis podcast the female member got borderline hysterical that Fred is always on CC and Venus isn't. Some kind of feminist thing.

Of course, a woman being passionate about equality is branded as "hysterical". Congrats for highlighting why feminism is important.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Murray would have got CC even if he was ranked outside the top 10 and never made the 4th round at Wimbledon. Konta is seeded 6th, she is on CC and the World #1, Kerber, is on Ct 2. That is disrespectful. Watching British TV, anyone would think it's a British only tournament that there are no players from any other country, because they just go on ad infinitum about Murray and Konta and how ALL the people queueing are only there hoping to see them.
 

Charleneriva

Hall of Fame
I neither mind nor question this scheduling except why the heck do they have to schedule the women's matches first on both courts AGAIN?

With 3 time slots for each court they could have put one men's match first on one court if asking them to let the players play earlier, even though it might rain, is too much! :cool:
 
Lots of court envy going on here. I see your schwartz is as big as mine. Just the fact the big 4 are playing on the same day is awesome and nole and rafa would be the first to support andy and Roger being on centre court today.
 

mikeeeee

Professional
How is this even remotely surprising?

-There's only 1 center court.
-There's only one world number 1 from the UK playing in the biggest event of the year which happens to be in London.
-There's only one GOAT

Pretty simple :)
 
If they put Nadal and Nole on center court then other fans will complain whine.

It's a no win situation for the organizers.

I think Federer/Murray sell more tickets than Nadal/Nole so it's reasonable to put them on a biggest stadium.
Agreed, the "no win situation" is correct. . But why should it be a "no win situation" to begin with? . I mean, why would "fans" (assuming we're talking about fans of a particular player, i.e. "my favourite male tennis idol") complain about whether their idol plays on centre court or court #1? . If they're TV viewers, what's the difference (outside of getting an occasional peek into the centre court 'royal box') and if they're paying spectators, then chances are they'll have better, closer-to-the-action seats in a slightly smaller stadium.

As for "selling more tix" that's really not an issue since centre court's booked solid well in advance of the tournament.

much ado about nothing imho - although I can see having Vainerer on centre court along with the 'local hero' Murray

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cockneyDjoker

Hall of Fame
For that C*** should watch the WTA. Might i suggest Konta ;)
I got good value for money today. Saw some very one-sided matches, which was a shame. Obviously everyone was supporting Murray and Federer. I had a group of very loud Federer fans sitting a row behind me and I told them I was supporting Dimitrov :D:D:D:D:D They were actually quite cool about it and offered me a beer :eek::eek::eek: I've just got home now.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I had a group of very loud Federer fans sitting a row behind me and I told them I was supporting Dimitrov :D:D:D:D:D They were actually quite cool about it and offered me a beer :eek::eek::eek: I've just got home now.
And here I thought Fed fans were the worst of the lot !
Anyway, I am sorry you missed watching NOle, he has CC today and he plays first.
 
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