All the participants of the great 9/11 conspiracy

All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...



-The Bush Administration, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history... Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.

-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

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Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-The courts for imposing a gag order [SEE above]

-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?

-All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

-PBS Nova since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/

-Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-NY Governor Pataki because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-The NY city scrap yards because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.

-EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don't know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?

-The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down. (Like me) They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...

-The CIA

-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible.

-NORAD

-The FAA who saw planes which conspiracy theorists never existed.

-The Silverstein Group who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-Silverstein's Insurance Company who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines (Pentagon)

-United Airlines (Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport for losing the planes

-Scientists and engineers who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes (Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes (Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers (Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones. (Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...



Condi
 
mhmm.

one snag. If all these people failed...then why was no one publicly fired. yet?

Well, these people failed because conspiracy detection wizards uncovered their vast conspiracy. I'm sure George W. Bush is already working out a scheme to silence them once and for all. Just wait until the cemeteries around Washington D.C. fill up .....

Or which failure do you mean?

Condi


BTW, I had all these discussions which Holcaust deniers in recent years in the internet.
You are from exactly the same mould.
 

Swissv2

Hall of Fame
Well, these people failed because conspiracy detection wizards uncovered their vast conspiracy. I'm sure George W. Bush is already working out a scheme to silence them once and for all. Just wait until the cemeteries around Washington D.C. fill up .....

Or which failure do you mean?

Condi

BTW, I had all these discussions which Holcaust deniers in recent years in the internet.
You are from exactly the same mould.

Holcaust "historic denial" breaks down in official scientific review, proving it did happen.

But when you have NIST documentation breaking down with official scientific view - then you have a problem

So my question is: did you even read the NIST report thoroughly?
 

Punisha

Professional
lol this is great... im sorry i just believe its a conspiracy. But they is a great deal of good evidence to support your argument. Bias ftw (no sarcasm intended)
 

Manda_D

Rookie
oh.my.gosh. will you please just GET OFF this subject. every1 is entitled to there own opinions and YOUR just as bad as those ppl with there conspiracy theory, trying to shove the "truth" down peoples throats.

i mean.. come on.. it was 5 years ago. i think its time to just stop trying to think of who made it happen or who didnt do enough to stop it or whatever and take it for what it was.

show a little respect
 
oh.my.gosh. will you please just GET OFF this subject. every1 is entitled to there own opinions and YOUR just as bad as those ppl with there conspiracy theory, trying to shove the "truth" down peoples throats.

i mean.. come on.. it was 5 years ago. i think its time to just stop trying to think of who made it happen or who didnt do enough to stop it or whatever and take it for what it was.

show a little respect


If the Bush government - helped by 5,785 co-conspirator - did mastermind the attacks they should be tried, convicted and executed. It would be perhaps the end of the United States, at least a constitutional crisis of unimaginable proportion.

That people seriously can BELIEVE such a conspiracy is beyond me. How ******** must you be to believe crap like that???

And no - I never will show respect to dipshits who accuse thousands of government people - mostly good and decent men and women - of committing such an heinous crime.

Condi
 

Manda_D

Rookie
If the Bush government - helped by 5,785 co-conspirator - did mastermind the attacks they should be tried, convicted and executed. It would be perhaps the end of the United States, at least a constitutional crisis of unimaginable proportion.

That people seriously can BELIEVE such a conspiracy is beyond me. How ******** must you be to believe crap like that???

And no - I never will show respect to dipshits who accuse thousands of government people - mostly good and decent men and women - of committing such an heinous crime.

Condi


WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT OTHER PEOPLE BELIEVE??!!

if you think your right.. thats fine.... if the other think there right... thats fine! i mean really.. just get over it.

im pretty sure most people have made there own minds up about what happened.. they dont need "dipshits" like you bringing all this crap up again
 

Swissv2

Hall of Fame
This is in response to thread
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=106988

I would truly like to put this issue to a rest. We are not experts. At the very best, we can copy+paste media links and speculate all day. We can argue back and forth in a civil manner, and perhaps use our very limited experience to help us out. We all have our theories and opinions, that’s fine: that is why our posts have been allowed for open discussion provided it stayed in the appropriate sections.


But the bottom line is we will never resolve this argument unless the scientists and experts involved in this matter have resolved the issue.

If you are SO concerned about trying to force your opinions (even me) on other people - then you have reached a point where you cannot function as a proper member of a forum, MUCH LESS a tennis forum.

But if you are so passionate about your views, take this material to your EXPERTS (professors and professionals) and discuss this somewhere else. It has gone too far.

Condoleeza, you want to continue to discuss this? Come to my forums at http://www.tennis-scheduler.com and we can continue our debate. I offer you this proposal, if ANY of your posts get deleted you are free to leave my forum.

I am out.
 

10sfreak

Semi-Pro
If the Bush government - helped by 5,785 co-conspirator - did mastermind the attacks they should be tried, convicted and executed. It would be perhaps the end of the United States, at least a constitutional crisis of unimaginable proportion.

That people seriously can BELIEVE such a conspiracy is beyond me. How ******** must you be to believe crap like that???

And no - I never will show respect to dipshits who accuse thousands of government people - mostly good and decent men and women - of committing such an heinous crime.

Condi

Very well said, Condi!
 
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