Any Babolat Racquet users use Leather grips?

matchpoints

Professional
There are quite a few Wilson and Head racquets users with leather grips on but I've never seen a Babolat player with Leather...

Did any of the Babolat racquets ever come with leather?

I would imagine the original Pure Control to be the type of racquet that Babolat would have put leather on from factory....then again who knows.
 

McLovin

Legend
The Pure Control comes w/ Babolat Syntec Grip. I know because I just re-gripped all of mine & I used the factory ones. The thing is heavy enough (12.7oz strung). I can't imagine it w/ a leather grip...
 

rosenstar

Professional
I know Roddick's frame has a leather grip under the tournigrip. There was a picture of it in a TENNIS magizine a couple months ago.
 

Jonnyf

Hall of Fame
Really, Alot of people who've strung Roddicks racket say he has the syntec.

Ljubicic when with Babolat used leather
 

rosenstar

Professional
Really, Alot of people who've strung Roddicks racket say he has the syntec.

Ljubicic when with Babolat used leather

there was an artical in tennis magazine about customizing racquets, and they interviewed I think Roman Prokes? Is that his name? He does racquets for the pros and they had a picture of roddicks racquet and a little caption. The picture had a leather grip.
 

ngtaj88

Rookie
The Pure Control comes w/ Babolat Syntec Grip. I know because I just re-gripped all of mine & I used the factory ones. The thing is heavy enough (12.7oz strung). I can't imagine it w/ a leather grip...

ive only gotten a glimpse of that racquet and it looked awesome. do you have any pics? and is it the same 16/20 string pattern. sorry about all the questions.
 

McLovin

Legend
Well, not very glamorous, but here a few shots...

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Babolat2.jpg


Babolat3.jpg


I have 5 of them, but I'm looking to pick up a few more as I have no plans on changing rackets anytime soon. They don't make 'em anymore and they are hard to come by (I just lost out on a e-bay bid earlier this week).
 

psp2

Banned
Well, not very glamorous, but here a few shots...

Babolat.jpg


Babolat2.jpg


Babolat3.jpg


I have 5 of them, but I'm looking to pick up a few more as I have no plans on changing rackets anytime soon. They don't make 'em anymore and they are hard to come by (I just lost out on a e-bay bid earlier this week).

These older PCs are fantastic!! They were heavy, stiff and have such a solid feel on contact. I regret selling mine few years ago.
 

ngtaj88

Rookie
thank you for the pics those frames are pretty sweet. i think i got them mistaken for an older babolat racquet. the frame looked like it was 19mm thick with a small headsize but i dont know what it was called. hopefully someone on the boards might know what im talking about.
 

McLovin

Legend
ngtaj88, yeah, I know what ones you are talking about. They came out ~ 1999. I knew someone who had a few and really liked them. Unfortunately, their rackets seem to have gone downhill over the years IMO. I know the PD is popular, but even the older version of that frame was better.
 

rosenstar

Professional
the picture with all the racquets on the shelf is much clearer in the magazine. you can see "andy roddick" written on a tag on the shelf under the stack of PDR's which I believe have leather grips on them.
 
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Deleted member 19728

Guest
My Elbow just hurts thinking about a PDR with leather grips, especially with the free swings Roddick takes, he would probably be crippled if he hit with leather grips. This is totally anecdotal (like about everything else in the pro's section) But I do remember seeing him fiddle with a grip on tv during a tourney and it looked like it was black underneath.-

Just my two cents and unconfirmed sighting!
 

Jonnyf

Hall of Fame
the picture with all the racquets on the shelf is much clearer in the magazine. you can see "andy roddick" written on a tag on the shelf under the stack of PDR's which I believe have leather grips on them.


Seriously, you're wrong, theres plenty of evidence. Ive also gone back and checked the article in the magazine. the shelf pic DOES NOT SHOW RODDICK'S RACKETS. Roddick uses Syntec, I even have his old specs that are IMPOSSIBLE to reach if you changed the syntec to a leather grip.
 
I realize that the profile of a Babolat user is a powermonger who is probably too young to appreciate leather. Or an oldster who needs power and a soft chushy grip. Or a girl who likes the blue on the PD. OR a Roddick fan.

I realize that people respect people who use HEAD and Wilson, and perceive them as purists who love leather, one handed BHs and the allcourt game.

I just wanted to weigh in for a moment and present a few points that support the opposite view. Most of them, I think, are obvious:

There are more grannysticks produced by HEAD and Wilson than players' frames.

Most frames do not come with leather. The ones that don't often get replaced with whatever grip the player prefers. This is not a difficult or expensive proposition. Nor is taking off the syntecs and replacing them with leather grips, especially today, with the easy adhesive backing. My buddy's eleven year-old installs his own leather grips.

Babolat makes three Storms that I'd call players' frames. The Pure Storm, which is a little light, but nice. The AeroStorm, which is awesome. And the Pure Storm Tour, which is as solid, but more flexible than the old Pure Control. Truly a RILF, in my opinion, and that's coming from a guy who had ATP points with a Dunlop Max 200g.

I play with some Babolats and I use leather grips on all of them.

I have a onehanded BH. I play an allcourt touch game.

BTW, Jonny's right. I held Andy's PD+ a few years ago. It was a black Syntec, it is not leather. Unless he switched, and you guys know something the rest of us do not.
 
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matchpoints

Professional
It is interesting to see that the new Pure Storm Tour does NOT come with leather given the weight and flex of the stick. I figure each company has one stick that they consider to be the players frame and would come with leather like Prince, Wilson, Head, etc....Babolat is the only company I can think of that never came with leather....for whatever reasons.

Anyhow, I was just curious as I used to use leather on my Pure Drives, then the Pure Storms, and then Pure Controls and now in the near future the Pure Storm Tours. There was a period when I suffered from Tennis Elbow (Pure Drive days) and that is when I switched to hybrid strings and also to cushion grips. Now I'm pain free and back to polys and leather with heavier frames. On the circuit I realized I had to have a heavier more solid stick return all the big serves. That's when I had switched to the Pure Control series....now the Storm Tour.

Thanks for all the input. Btw, anyone know what Fernando Gonzalez uses?
 

matchpoints

Professional
The Pure Control comes w/ Babolat Syntec Grip. I know because I just re-gripped all of mine & I used the factory ones. The thing is heavy enough (12.7oz strung). I can't imagine it w/ a leather grip...

Are you sure? I just weighed all my old ones with Poly strings and over grips and none weigh more then 12.2oz.
 

McLovin

Legend
matchpoints, I've weighed mine on a postal scale. They are not customized in any way, other than an overgrip. All 4 are within .1oz of each other (12.65 - 12.75).
Are yours the ones in my picture? w/ the swirl graphics? The ones that came after (2003) were ~ .5 oz lighter (see specs at the TW racket finder).
 
Yeah, they probably figure that only a minor percent of all tennis players want leather, and those that do will simply purchase a Babolat leather grip. It's what I do, and I give the stock Syntec to my wife or my kid. They sell them at both clubs near me for 13 or 14 bucks. THey last forever. I've even re-used the ones from my old sticks.
 

ngtaj88

Rookie
ngtaj88, yeah, I know what ones you are talking about. They came out ~ 1999. I knew someone who had a few and really liked them. Unfortunately, their rackets seem to have gone downhill over the years IMO. I know the PD is popular, but even the older version of that frame was better.

Thank you! I thought I might have been the only person that has possibly seen them. Those old Babolat Pure Controls almost looked like kfed 90 almost considering they were so much thinner in beam with and a smaller headsize. Unlike any other Babolat frame I have seen before.
 
Thank you! I thought I might have been the only person that has possibly seen them. Those old Babolat Pure Controls almost looked like kfed 90 almost considering they were so much thinner in beam with and a smaller headsize. Unlike any other Babolat frame I have seen before.

Which old Pure Controls had a smaller head and a thinner beam?

In 1999 and 2000 the Pure Controls were a darker red, a touch heavier, they came from the same mold and they advertised a 97 head. Then they called the same frame a 98 head.
Same beam width.

Are you talking about a Babolat frame from before that time?

Paging vsbabolat.
 

Chauvalito

Hall of Fame
I just put a Prince calfskin on one of my younger brothers old rackets, a pure drive zylon 360...basically a pure drive lightened an ounce with a head heavy balance.

I added lead under the handle and in the hoop and it still feels too light.
 

Duzza

Legend
Well, not very glamorous, but here a few shots...

Babolat.jpg


Babolat2.jpg


Babolat3.jpg


I have 5 of them, but I'm looking to pick up a few more as I have no plans on changing rackets anytime soon. They don't make 'em anymore and they are hard to come by (I just lost out on a e-bay bid earlier this week).

They are the most beautiful Babolat I've seen IMO.


The Babolat Pure Drive Centenary Signature edition came with leather.
 

ngtaj88

Rookie
Which old Pure Controls had a smaller head and a thinner beam?

In 1999 and 2000 the Pure Controls were a darker red, a touch heavier, they came from the same mold and they advertised a 97 head. Then they called the same frame a 98 head.
Same beam width.

Are you talking about a Babolat frame from before that time?

Paging vsbabolat.

Yes I think so because they were nothing like the frames for Pure Control standards of today.
 

matchpoints

Professional
matchpoints, I've weighed mine on a postal scale. They are not customized in any way, other than an overgrip. All 4 are within .1oz of each other (12.65 - 12.75).
Are yours the ones in my picture? w/ the swirl graphics? The ones that came after (2003) were ~ .5 oz lighter (see specs at the TW racket finder).


Sorry about that. For whatever reason I was thinking that you were referring to the newer Pure Controls which is what I have. I would love to get a hold of the holder ones but the thing is that I have to use the newer ones and I doubt they would give me the old ones with a new paint job. The original PC was top 10 most arm friendly sticks back in the day.

Can you please post complete specs if you have access to an RDC machine?
Thanks.
 

Hewittfan22

Semi-Pro
i apologize for never posting a pic but i had a gonzalez's racquet from legg mason couple of years ago when i was ballboying for him. It was a broken racquet he gave me but i was stupid to took it apart including his replacement grip which was Some sort of Wilson comfort synthetic one and the lead tape that was about 3 layers at 3 and 9 and put it on my person one which was Yonex Rd-ti 50 at the time. I shouldve never took anything off of that frame. But Gonzalez does not use leather grip 100% and when i saw his bag when i was standing in front of him during the change over he had two types of overgrips which is rare for pros cause they ususally stick to one kind. He had white wilson or babolat and the tournagrip.
 

Lindsay

Semi-Pro
Go to www.r p n y tennis.com and choose galleries>office/6 of 6. the far left racquets hanging are pure drive roddicks, with syntec grips.
 

Serpententacle

Hall of Fame
I have a leather grip, made by Babolat, but will not put it on until my current grip wears out. I am wondering if I will like a leather grip? I am accustomed to the grip my APD came with.
 

Bobble

Semi-Pro
French players using babolat usually equals leather grip...i.e. Benneteau, Moncourt, Roger-Vasselin, Serra (not sure), and Arnaud Clement back in 2005 or whenever it was that he used a pure drive.
 
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