Hello everyone been a while since I posted. I thought I would use an ipad in place of my accordian folder that I drag along on a daily basis that is full of medical consent forms, schedules, score sheets .... all the stuff that a high school coach drags along. But I just looked up a few tennis apps for the ipad today and wondered if there are any coaches using the ipad on a regular basis and what they are using for. Looks like there are M A apps and Stat. Tracking apps. Any; favorites, reviews, dogs. etc... Just would like to get a discussion going
Any coaches using their ipads on a regular basis?
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tennis_balla
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If a coach needs to use a tennis app while coaching he should find a new profession. The iPad is good for quick videos and video review on court but even that won't be a common occurrence.
I bet people said that for every piece of technology when it first came out
Balla, Surprised that you dismissed it so easily. Just came across this app that claims to be used in college programs. Remember watching indoor volleyball in the recent Olympics with national coaches wearing a pad device on their forearm which I assume someone was feeding them stats on.
http://www.topappreviews101.com/my-tennis-stats-hd-ipad-app-17600.html
http://www.topappreviews101.com/my-tennis-stats-hd-ipad-app-17600.html
Avles
Hall of Fame
"Coaching" is really used to mean different things, for example:
1. sports tutoring, helping players improve
2. player/team management, keeping things running and helping players/teams win
These overlap of course but aren't identical.
I think tennis_balla is thinking more of meaning 1, maybe iPad apps would be tend to more useful for meaning 2.
1. sports tutoring, helping players improve
2. player/team management, keeping things running and helping players/teams win
These overlap of course but aren't identical.
I think tennis_balla is thinking more of meaning 1, maybe iPad apps would be tend to more useful for meaning 2.
Ash_Smith
Legend
I know quite a few coaches who always have their iPads on court and use them for everything from video analysis, stat-tracking, note taking to basic admin tasks like registers.
Like Balla though, I have an intense dislike for coaches who rely on things like iPads or even real things like books on court for their actual teaching.
Like Balla though, I have an intense dislike for coaches who rely on things like iPads or even real things like books on court for their actual teaching.
sundaypunch
Hall of Fame
Correct. No iPad needed to tell kids to close their stance, hit thru 5-balls, and finish over their shoulder.
First two are not modern instruction
tennis_balla
Hall of Fame
Stats apps are fine, great actually. I misread, thought you were talking about those tennis instruction type apps. Pretty useless and gimmicky.
In the future, there will be a giant monitor with speakers on every court. It will be thin and flexible, and immune to ball hits. There will be one hanging on each front and back fence. It will have wireless Internet and wireless power (yes) connections.
Cameras will record every thing on court from various angles all the time.
If the coach wants to make a point, he will replay the student's shot on the screen, side-by-side with a pro shot of the same type, obtained instantly from a stroke database on the Cloud which will procure the best match of the pro with the student based on physical and playing characteristics. The coach will make his point, and play will resume again.
Whole system will be available for $299 one-time cost plus $99 per year for use of the constantly updating Cloud database of strokes.
Cameras will record every thing on court from various angles all the time.
If the coach wants to make a point, he will replay the student's shot on the screen, side-by-side with a pro shot of the same type, obtained instantly from a stroke database on the Cloud which will procure the best match of the pro with the student based on physical and playing characteristics. The coach will make his point, and play will resume again.
Whole system will be available for $299 one-time cost plus $99 per year for use of the constantly updating Cloud database of strokes.
Darn you guys receive too much money from the LTA.
Are you serious? Are there recorded pro strokes displayed side-by-side?
diamondie1
New User
Where do you work Ash?
I want to send my kids there.
I want to send my kids there.
Crisp
Professional
Move with the times and be prepared to teach with new products. Don't be closed off and think the "old" way was working so why change. So many people are visual learners today. It's not right to dislike a coach who has taken the time to improve his or her skills and move with modern techniques.
tennis_balla
Hall of Fame
Could you please explain how an iPad will help you become a better coach besides using stats and its camera/playback which has already been covered in this thread.
tennis_balla
Hall of Fame
Crisp
Professional
You said use of video wouldn't be a common occurrence. I use it quite a lot and have in my bag on court during all lessons. But hey I'm not here to help people professionally update their skills. I attend seminars und keep myself updated. If you are a coach and don't you and your players are missing out. Kids these days are very good visually.
Crisp
Professional
Haha, very funny sureshs, but that is probably the way it's going... Who knows what the future holds. And to balla... Over the years of reading your posts and actually think we have many of the same thoughts about coaching perhaps we just achieve it in different ways. Neither is wrong... Just different.
user92626
G.O.A.T.
I could think of a few. Picture diagrams, notes, pro's slow motion clips for examples. Need an app that can take photos and superimpose over pro photos for comparison, referencing. You can't ask an old coach to demonstrate and verbally describe Nadal's nuances.
tennis_balla
Hall of Fame
I never said video review won't be a common occurrence, it has been a common practice for the past 20+ years. What I stated was a gadget like an iPad used oncourt for the most part is still a gimmick. It can be used for quick video review but as you saw with what Ash wrote what they use, different camera angles and a full on program like Dartfish cannot yet be replaced.
I'm not talking about the future, I don't coach there I coach in the present and if a coach sets up a lesson with the intention of video review and comes with an iPad only then sorry thats a bit of a joke.
For managing hours, tracking results, stats, keeping a database of videos of players progress blah blah you can add your own, a laptop or iPad, whatever is of course perfect. I can't believe I'm arguing this.
Timbo's hopeless slice
Hall of Fame
We have a comedian in the house.
a fairly uninformed one, however
anyway, there is a Tennis Australia APP that lets you film, say, a service motion and then instantly split screen it with a range of pro serves etc.
it's handy, but you wouldn't build a whole lesson around it and it works just fine on an ordinary iPhone, anyway.
(I can't believe you're arguing this, either)
tennispodpro
New User
ipad apps
I made my first kids tennis iPad app called "Keiki Tennis Flashcards" last year and use it on-court with my large group lessons. I see a ton of these apps being developed in the future to help teaching pros get more creative and help make the drills more active and fun.
I am working on my second iphone/ipad app right now for high performance players. To be used on-court. Can't give out the details for obvious reasons. However, I feel free to give out this idea that I will be working on later for the little ones. The concept is dual; keep the kids moving and make them learn a math skill, all at the same time. When they run to the app they have to answer the math questions and then the app gives out the assignment ----hit a forehand, backhand, serve, etc. That is the concept. Love it or hate it.
Anyway, apps are here to stay, we should embrace technology, not be skeptical.
I made my first kids tennis iPad app called "Keiki Tennis Flashcards" last year and use it on-court with my large group lessons. I see a ton of these apps being developed in the future to help teaching pros get more creative and help make the drills more active and fun.
I am working on my second iphone/ipad app right now for high performance players. To be used on-court. Can't give out the details for obvious reasons. However, I feel free to give out this idea that I will be working on later for the little ones. The concept is dual; keep the kids moving and make them learn a math skill, all at the same time. When they run to the app they have to answer the math questions and then the app gives out the assignment ----hit a forehand, backhand, serve, etc. That is the concept. Love it or hate it.
Anyway, apps are here to stay, we should embrace technology, not be skeptical.
sundaypunch
Hall of Fame
beernutz
Hall of Fame
I own that app (MyTennisStatsHD) and although I'm not a coach it is a well-done product with a few minor problems. I will sometimes tape social matches and watch them while entering the stats into that program. I'll email anybody I played with a copy of the result stats if they want one too.
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barringer97
Semi-Pro
Love the Ipad for tennis.
tennispodpro
New User
Keiki
Yes, thanks for clarifying that Suresh.
On a side note, and being right brain dominant myself, I think we probably would all agree that we are all predominantly visual learners. We can see what has happened in our society today with the advent of mobile technology. However, I think there is a big difference between LEARNING visually and playing visually addicting games and surfing facebook. Anyway, the apps that I am developing are not for the use of developing fine motor skills.
Lee
Yes, thanks for clarifying that Suresh.
On a side note, and being right brain dominant myself, I think we probably would all agree that we are all predominantly visual learners. We can see what has happened in our society today with the advent of mobile technology. However, I think there is a big difference between LEARNING visually and playing visually addicting games and surfing facebook. Anyway, the apps that I am developing are not for the use of developing fine motor skills.
Lee
Thanks to all that replied. Local club pro just starting using Coach's Eye and blackmailed me about my foot fault I will be trying My Coach HD with my high school team for the next week. Any team coaches using the ipad to replace their binders and accordian files for managerial and stat task?
I will be trying My Coach HD with my high school team for the next week. Any team coaches using the ipad to replace their binders and accordian files for managerial and stat task?tennispodpro
New User
Ravens
The Superbowl Champion Baltimore Ravens completely ditched their hard-copy binders and replaced them with iPads. If a player loses the iPad the information on the iPad is deleted. They stated several reasons for doing the switch.
Lee
Thanks to all that replied. Local club pro just starting using Coach's Eye and blackmailed me about my foot fault
The Superbowl Champion Baltimore Ravens completely ditched their hard-copy binders and replaced them with iPads. If a player loses the iPad the information on the iPad is deleted. They stated several reasons for doing the switch.
Lee
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red rook
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Ubersense is great! Love that app
Sawyer_Dargiewicz
New User
Hate to sound like an annoying developer, but seriously check out Tennis Wizard for iPad and iPhone. It's perfect for coaches.
It lets you record your duels, and automatically keeps a career record for all of your players. So at the end of the season and it's time to replay some of your season opponents, with a single tap Tennis Wizard has your season and career history against every opponent. Tracks wins, losses, scores, what position (number) they played at, for both singles and doubles.
It also runs flighted tournaments, tracks challenge matches, supports multiple rosters and seasons, and has really flexible match charting built in.
It's pretty new and it has a lot of great features for tennis coaches at all levels.
It lets you record your duels, and automatically keeps a career record for all of your players. So at the end of the season and it's time to replay some of your season opponents, with a single tap Tennis Wizard has your season and career history against every opponent. Tracks wins, losses, scores, what position (number) they played at, for both singles and doubles.
It also runs flighted tournaments, tracks challenge matches, supports multiple rosters and seasons, and has really flexible match charting built in.
It's pretty new and it has a lot of great features for tennis coaches at all levels.
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