Anyone else also feels their overheads have more pop than their serves?
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i'm short, so i have to hit up when i serve, and put more spin to put it back down... (unless you're >7ft tall, you have to hit up too)
when i'm hitting an overhead, i'm closer to the net, and don't have to add spin, so i can put all my rracquet head speed in to pace
Either that or serve from the service line and don’t restrict yourself to hitting into the service box
Isn't this basically a flat serve?
S&V-not_dead_yet
Talk Tennis Guru
Almost no one can literally hit down on a serve and still make it.
One guy climbed a ladder and showed through a camera what Isner can do with his giant reach: he can hit down. "It's unfair: it's like Isner is hitting an OH [when serving]."
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
Because the ball is moving at 30-50 MPH when you hit an overhead out of the air, and that speed gets redirected and added to the forward speed of the shot.
EddieBrock
Hall of Fame
My overhead feels a lot more reliable than my serve. Not sure if I get more pop or not. Maybe it's just your perception since you're standing closer to the net and have a better angle. Have you hit an overhead from near the baseline before? When I've done that it usually feels similar to my serve.
Slicerman
Professional
-You aim down and hit overheads purely flat. Whereas most player's serves will have some spin on it
-The ball is falling from a greater height so the ball gathers more speed and downward energy
-You have a lot more real estate to hit into, not just the service box, so some people might have more confidence to swing out on it
-Since you're closer to the net, the ball reaches the intended target earlier, so there's less ball flight and less loss of energy through the air
-The ball is falling from a greater height so the ball gathers more speed and downward energy
-You have a lot more real estate to hit into, not just the service box, so some people might have more confidence to swing out on it
-Since you're closer to the net, the ball reaches the intended target earlier, so there's less ball flight and less loss of energy through the air
RyanRF
Professional
Yea that's probably correct. Perhaps I'll say instead when hitting a purely flat serve it 'feels like' I'm hitting down.
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EddieBrock
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S&V-not_dead_yet
Talk Tennis Guru
I hit my [first, flat] serves harder on average than my OHs.
- Some of my OHs are from the BL after a deep lob; I don't swing anywhere near 100%
- Some of my OHs are far enough behind me that I have to do a scissor kick and I don't want to hit those as hard
- Some of my OHs are placement shots, like an extreme slice
Even for those for which I'm in the perfect position, I still feel as if I hit my serves harder.
Maybe the perception that the OHs are harder is the proximity to the net and how soon the ball makes contact with the ground?
- Some of my OHs are from the BL after a deep lob; I don't swing anywhere near 100%
- Some of my OHs are far enough behind me that I have to do a scissor kick and I don't want to hit those as hard
- Some of my OHs are placement shots, like an extreme slice
Even for those for which I'm in the perfect position, I still feel as if I hit my serves harder.
Maybe the perception that the OHs are harder is the proximity to the net and how soon the ball makes contact with the ground?
EddieBrock
Hall of Fame
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SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Any idea who those posters are? Hint: TD is the initials of one of them.
Maybe you're right, but I feel like even my OH from the baseline is harder. Perhaps it's flatter like people mentioned here.
EddieBrock
Hall of Fame
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