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tennishopper

New User
Seeking ball machine recs/ advice: I have 13 y/o boy he'll play high school this year and 10 year old boy, they are at very different levels. Thinking I'd like to have a machine to allow one to hit against while I hit on another court with the other. Any recs out there? I'm between a Lobster and Silent Partner. Biggest concern is reliability/ durability, also hoping to make one time purchase and not cheap out on features I'll regret not having if I go with a cheaper model also don't want to over purchase. I'll have to carry the machine up/down stairs to get to the courts but hope it will be worth the physical/financial investment. Grateful for any advice.
 

taylor15

Hall of Fame
I purchased a silent partner edge sport for my 11yo son and I to use. When my daughter gets another year or so she will join us.

I am really happy with the purchase thus far. The only thing I thought I would miss is a remote, but so far I haven’t. The sport has a 15 second delay so no balls are lost. We generally run about 500 balls through it a session since we got it and it has helped my son immensely. It is heavy and the lite version may be better for stairs.
 

snoflewis

Legend
used to have the tennis tutor plus and now have a lobster elite 3. the only benefit of the tennis tutor is the size, but the lobster is better in every other way. it's easier to transport, more robust because the hopper isn't a thin plastic flap, and holds more balls. performance is pretty similar from my end.i also carry my lobster from a second floor apt to my car and then to the courts. it's easier to carry the lobster imo because the weight distribution is a little better.

i would suggest looking at CL first. if you can score a decent deal on a used one, you'll at worst break even when you decide to sell.
 

JEDI MASTER

Professional
I have the Silent Partner w/Remote.... nice machine..but heavy and bulky... now needs a good home...

i have a new Hydrogen Sports Proton arriving this week... Light at 20lbs and very compact in size.
 

Papa Mango

Professional
Don't have any specific recommendation, most ball machines are fine in terms of reliability.
The only option that I would recommend you get is the 2-line feature. With 2 boys close enough in age, they can alternate hitting while you be the coach on the same side.
$0.02
 

tennishopper

New User
Appreciate everyone's response, this is very helpful and reinforcing of my previous thoughts/ concerns about issues such as portability and need for 2-line oscillation thanks.
I am kind of floored by this Proton machine, never heard of it until this thread. Seems like the iphone of ball machines. So inspired I placed my preorder last night (won't ship until April maybe but I'm in no rush). The thought of not shlepping a large ball machine up/down stairs along with the two hoppers we bring to the courts would be a great positive. I look forward to hearing about anyone's experience with the Proton when they arrive and grateful for any other input. Thanks!
 

2ndServe

Hall of Fame
used to have the tennis tutor plus and now have a lobster elite 3. the only benefit of the tennis tutor is the size, but the lobster is better in every other way. it's easier to transport, more robust because the hopper isn't a thin plastic flap, and holds more balls. performance is pretty similar from my end.i also carry my lobster from a second floor apt to my car and then to the courts. it's easier to carry the lobster imo because the weight distribution is a little better.

i would suggest looking at CL first. if you can score a decent deal on a used one, you'll at worst break even when you decide to sell.

This the shape and weight of the Lobster is the best for transport, having tried the tennis tutor plus (too boxy, wheels too small to roll around, had to stoop over to use the handle, tennis tutor support is the best of any company imo).

Spinfire 2 (older model) was just way heavy with the battery, very tough to get in and out of the car, wider than the lobster. Very heavy and too big for a 13 year old and 10 year old to carry. My friend has the newer model and has to have the external battery option, so he has to carry the ball machine, basket of balls, racket bag and the external battery.

Have a Lobster and it's been flawless, the only thing I had to do was change the battery (on this model only took 5 min). It's only 29 lbs without the battery but it's a very manageable 42 lbs with battery and the porportions are good to wrap your arms around to carry and to roll to the courts.
 

tennishopper

New User
After reviewing/considering all the machines I could find online, the spinfire seemed solid and that there was only one model to choose from seemed to simplify a decision process until I realized the combined weight of device + battery was 54 lbs, just too heavy to make it convenient enough for our regular use and I do not look forward to carrying the battery separately from the device. I placed a downpayment on the Proton. I only learned of it through this thread (thanks again). It seems sleek and if reliable it may be the perfect fit for us. If for some reason it doesn't work out I think the Lobster is the direction we will go. Seems like you have the Elite 3, as long as I have 2 line oscillation and remote I think I will be pleased. The thought of a 20 lb Proton in spite of smaller ball volume along with no added cost for a remote, and what looks like very simple app format, seems like big advantages from my standpoint. Thank you for all the advice, much appreciated.
 

tonylg

Legend
I've used many over the years and it recently came down to the Spinfire and Lobster (Elite 3) for me. I was lucky to be able to try both before buying and it was really a coin flip. I went with the Lobster due to being easier to transport.
 

dak95_00

Hall of Fame
I see he's already gone for the Proton. That machine looks nice but no one has seen one in the wild yet. Jedi says his is on the way and I believe he's waited close to 2 years for it so I hope it actually arrives. He was promised April of 2020 I believe. If it lives up to the hype, it's a deal at approximately $1400 with all it delivers.

The stairs bother me the most. I would've opted for the Spinfire with it's external battery but one can never go wrong with a Silent Partner. Lobster machines have nice features but the feet fall off and are a challenge to replace. I really believe more ball machines will start going to external battery options due to the lighter weight and the lack of having to lug the entire unit around. The stairs really bother me. How many stairs?

There's a thread about the Proton and I've given most of those guys a hard time because I think it's silly to put down $700 for a reservation on a machine to get $200 off of the $1595 price sticker WHEN they've not delivered ANY (supposedly less than 5) units from their initial sales reservations. This latest sales reservation list is their 3rd set. Jedi was in the 1st set from a couple or more years ago. I hope he gets his! I hope the OP of this thread gets his too! I'm really interested in a machine that weighs 20lbs and does what it's advertised to do.
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
also curious to know if there are any spinfire 2 owners out there with feedback?

I have a SpinFire 2
strongly recommend
easy to transport
plenty of features: internal oscillation, 2 line drill, 'random' mode
plenty of pace & spin that can be adjusted, top spin & slice
great customer care
just make sure to order with external battery, in this case, if there is a plug on the court, you don't need to carry it. If there is no plug, you take the battery
 

2ndServe

Hall of Fame
I wondering why lithium batteries haven't made their way to these mainstream machines, they could make them smaller, lighter. Everyone I see still uses lead acid and they are all about 14 lbs
 

taylor15

Hall of Fame
I see he's already gone for the Proton. That machine looks nice but no one has seen one in the wild yet. Jedi says his is on the way and I believe he's waited close to 2 years for it so I hope it actually arrives. He was promised April of 2020 I believe. If it lives up to the hype, it's a deal at approximately $1400 with all it delivers.

The stairs bother me the most. I would've opted for the Spinfire with it's external battery but one can never go wrong with a Silent Partner. Lobster machines have nice features but the feet fall off and are a challenge to replace. I really believe more ball machines will start going to external battery options due to the lighter weight and the lack of having to lug the entire unit around. The stairs really bother me. How many stairs?

There's a thread about the Proton and I've given most of those guys a hard time because I think it's silly to put down $700 for a reservation on a machine to get $200 off of the $1595 price sticker WHEN they've not delivered ANY (supposedly less than 5) units from their initial sales reservations. This latest sales reservation list is their 3rd set. Jedi was in the 1st set from a couple or more years ago. I hope he gets his! I hope the OP of this thread gets his too! I'm really interested in a machine that weighs 20lbs and does what it's advertised to do.
Even though the proton is interdict to me, I went with the silent partner for 2 reasons. May people have them and can attest to their reliability. I got it 3 days after ordering.
I am interested in it, but not for a $700 pre-order
 

dak95_00

Hall of Fame
I wondering why lithium batteries haven't made their way to these mainstream machines, they could make them smaller, lighter. Everyone I see still uses lead acid and they are all about 14 lbs
They cost 4/5 times more for the consumer and I’m guessing for the manufacturer too.
 

dak95_00

Hall of Fame
Even though the proton is interdict to me, I went with the silent partner for 2 reasons. May people have them and can attest to their reliability. I got it 3 days after ordering.
I am interested in it, but not for a $700 pre-order
Exactly. If it were available and had reviews from the wild, I’d buy. It’s absolutely not worth putting down $700 now to wait and wait and wait for a mere $200 saving.
 

BretH

Semi-Pro
Love my Silent Partner Edge Lite. No remote and too wide an oscillation are the only gripes. I have never come close to draining the battery.
 

taylor15

Hall of Fame
Love my Silent Partner Edge Lite. No remote and too wide an oscillation are the only gripes. I have never come close to draining the battery.
What settings do you normally hit where oscillation is too wide?

I have the edge sport, which I think only difference is the battery. At 5 speed, 5 elevation and 1 topspin I have not felt it to be too wide
 

Papa Mango

Professional
Love my Silent Partner Edge Lite. No remote and too wide an oscillation are the only gripes. I have never come close to draining the battery.
What settings do you normally hit where oscillation is too wide?

I have the edge sport, which I think only difference is the battery. At 5 speed, 5 elevation and 1 topspin I have not felt it to be too wide
I have had 2 Edge sports and yes the random oscillation was too wide at the extreme ends. Although the last one I bought was 5+ years ago so they might have adjusted since then.
My solution was to put the machine at the service line and adjust speed spin from there.
 

wmoore

Rookie
Seeking ball machine recs/ advice: I have 13 y/o boy he'll play high school this year and 10 year old boy, they are at very different levels. Thinking I'd like to have a machine to allow one to hit against while I hit on another court with the other. Any recs out there? I'm between a Lobster and Silent Partner. Biggest concern is reliability/ durability, also hoping to make one time purchase and not cheap out on features I'll regret not having if I go with a cheaper model also don't want to over purchase. I'll have to carry the machine up/down stairs to get to the courts but hope it will be worth the physical/financial investment. Grateful for any advice.
I have purchased two Silent Partner machinens. One is the lower tier with the delay option for the first ball on it. No remote. It does oscillation and will send them over the net at up to around 85 MPH with plenty of top spin, blah , blah, blah. It's a Chevrolet. THEN - because i was soooo smart - I purchased the top of the line model (the Cadillac) with all the bells and whistles. What I found out was the the nice folks at SIlent Partner hired someone who DOESN'T PLAY TENNIS to do all the fancy programming for the fancy-schmancy machine - and I wound up selling the new, fancy machine for pennies on the dollar, and the original machine is still going strong and I love it. Buy the one with the battery power and the delay-before-first-ball and you will be happy. You WILL have to to some not-too-difficult maintenance on it (changing the battery after a year or so etc), but that's no big deal. I have been 100% happy with the lower tier machine and I recommend it highly.
 

tennishopper

New User
Deposit left on the Proton but still looking at the Silent Partner. Think I'll be waiting for some time for the proton.
 

taylor15

Hall of Fame
Anyone out there think 100 ball capacity is too small for a ball machine?
I have a Silent Partner, and currently only use 72 balls. if I'm hitting by myself then that is enough before needing a break. If my son and I hit together then I would like to have 144 balls. Even though my machine doesn't have 2 line we will put it on oscillate and take turns hitting 10-15 balls each or we will put it only to the FH or BH side and hit 10, going back to a marker between each ball to practice moving.

The issue with having more balls is that we would need a larger ball hopper or method of picking them up, but when we practice at the high-school we can use their rolling hopper. He's 11 but we have a good relationship with the coach so I have access to the storage shed. It makes things a lot easier to pick up balls that way for sure. When we have 72 we just use a standard ball hopper.
 

Spinfire

New User
Spinfire 2 (older model) was just way heavy with the battery, very tough to get in and out of the car, wider than the lobster. Very heavy and too big for a 13 year old and 10 year old to carry. My friend has the newer model and has to have the external battery option, so he has to carry the ball machine, basket of balls, racket bag and the external battery.

Have a Lobster and it's been flawless, the only thing I had to do was change the battery (on this model only took 5 min). It's only 29 lbs without the battery but it's a very manageable 42 lbs with battery and the porportions are good to wrap your arms around to carry and to roll to the courts.

Given the weight reported above, the Lobster referred to is likely one of the Elite models rather than the Grand series which the Spinfire Pro 2 is best compared to. The Spinfire Pro 2 had its first major revision in 11 years. It is now more compact than the Lobster Grand series, offers internal oscillation and the ability to not have an internal battery but only an external battery and also now has a lithium battery option which is proving to be very popular. Lobster does not offer any of these options. The Spinfire handle also retracts under the machine, can be retracted with one hand vs the Lobster which requires 2 hands to be used, not to mention the Lobster handle extends into the air above the machine and therefore is prone to being hit by a ball, which can require the user to walk over and center the machine again.

The Spinfire is pulled like luggage so there is no need to carry the machine at all unlike some other machines. Just lift the 40 lb External Battery Model down from the car and pull it to the court. With over a decade on the market and many tens of thousands of machine out there working after many years and all parts easily user-replaceable the machine has really withstood the test of time.
 
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